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317:(and also painted portraits of the spouses of both, at an unknown date). John Parker, 1st Earl of Morley, and his family were good friends of the Greys, who often went to Devon in the summer for Lady Grey’s health. Maybe as a result, Say was soon after commissioned to paint a full-length portrait of Earl Grey, then prime minister, and several of his daughters (Mary Wood, Viscountess Halifax and Lady Louisa Lambton) and daughters-in-law (Maria Countess Grey and Maria Viscountess Howick). Another early notable commission was a portrait of 154: 387: 22: 325: 347:
1830 was “Little Wanderers”, a romantic portrayal of the sisters Alice and Edith Acraman, daughters of Daniel Wade Acraman (1775–1847), a rich iron manufacturer of Clifton, Bristol. Say had more extensive relations with the Acraman family, painting a portrait of the girls’ mother, sketching the heads
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After he died on 29 March 1868 at Upton Park, he was buried at St Mary’s Church in Upton, Slough. His wife Henrietta died on 3 May 1872 and was buried at Upton with her husband. Their tombs have not been preserved. They had two children, Evelyn Geoffrey (born 18 February 1851) and Henrietta Maude
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in Yorkshire, to paint portraits of several of the family. Among the daughters whose portrait he painted was Henrietta (1807 – 1872), to whom he may also have given instruction in painting, and he announced his forthcoming marriage to her in late 1847; the wedding took place on 6 April 1848. They
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at St Mary Marylebone on 1 February 1805. An elder brother born in October 1802 probably died in infancy. There were also three elder sisters, all of whom married known figures in the contemporary art world. Mary Anne (born 24 August 1794) married in 1817 (as his second wife) the architect
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and later a double portrait of Ernest, Prince of Leiningen and Prince Victor of Hohenlohe-Langenburg. It may have been for this purpose that he made a journey to Prussia in August to October 1846. In 1849, he was commissioned to paint a large full-length portrait of
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Say’s gained support and commissions from the Royal household. In the second half of the 1840s, he was commissioned to paint portraits of some of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's close German relatives,
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for a drawing and he received other awards at the same society in 1819 and 1820. Already in 1819, he was producing some quite accomplished engravings, presumably under his father’s guidance.
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in 1861 for the South African Library in Cape Town, “painted … in commemoration of His Royal Highness’s Visit to the Colony in the Year 1860” to inaugurate new harbour works in Table Bay.
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of these children many times as models for angels’ heads depicted in some mural decorations and giving Edith painting lessons, and introducing her to a wide circle of artistic friends.
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By the time Say stopped painting in about 1862, his classical style of portraiture was going out of fashion, and photography was making inroads into the market for pictures of people.
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Two portraits of Frederick Say have survived, both miniatures. One shows him as a fresh-faced, golden-haired boy of 12 years, painted by a Miss Green, perhaps a daughter of
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in 1826, and he continued to exhibit at the Royal Academy every year except 1834 until 1854 (a total of 78 paintings), although he never became a Royal Academician.
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to paint several portraits for the “Statesmen’s Gallery” that he was constituting at his home, Drayton Manor in Staffordshire. These portraits included those of
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The Royal Academy of Arts; a complete dictionary of contributors and their work from its foundation in 1769 to 1904
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For example, A diseased brain. Coloured aquatint by W. Say after F. R. Say for Richard Bright, 1829
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At least 50 of Say’s portraits were copied as engravings for wider diffusion, by engravers such as
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The first record of Frederick’s work is an award (a “Silver Palette”) he received in 1817 at the
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and George Raphael Ward. Some of his portraits are now known only from existing engravings.
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A genealogical and heraldic dictionary of the landed gentry of Great Britain and Ireland
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Life of Benjamin Robert Haydon, Historical Painter, from his autobiography and journals
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reported that “it is beyond all question the most remarkable work in the exhibition”.
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Frederick began to exhibit in the Royal Academy’s Summer Exhibition and the
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John Cheney, Forgotten but not lost – Frederick Richard Say (1804–1868),
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1860, undertaking commissions for portraits of figures such as
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in London. William died on 24 August 1834 in London, aged 66.
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Edward Law, 1st Earl of Ellenborough (1790-1871), by F.R. Say
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ran from 1815 in direct competition with the classes at the
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A group of Calcutta residents commissioned the portrait of
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In the mid-1840s, Frederick visited the Thompson family of
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and of Lady Elizabeth Bulteel, one of the daughters of
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