371:(the capital of the county of Vermandois) from natural causes. The story of him being hanged by king Louis IV (see fig. above) during a hunt is fictitious. His vast estates and territories were divided among his sons. Vermandois and Amiens went to the two elder sons while Robert and Herbert, the younger sons, were given the valuable holdings scattered throughout Champagne. On Robert's death his brother's son Herbert III inherited them all. Herbert III's only son Stephen died childless in 1019–20 thus ending the male line of Herbert II.
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In 926, on the death of Count Roger I of Laon. Herbert demanded this countship for Eudes, his eldest son. He took the town in defiance of King
Rudolph leading to a clash between the two in 927. Using the threat of releasing King Charles III, whom he held captive, Herbert managed to hold the city for
616:, which was penned years later, circa 960, during the reign of Louis IV’s son Lothar III (954-986). Flodoard of Reims, whose contemporary annals provide the most reliable political narrative for Louis IV’s reign, gives no indication that the king played a role in Herbert’s death.“
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Herbert 'the Old', Count of Meux the son of
Herbert II is sometimes confused with his nephew, Herbert III, Count of Meux and Troyes, son of Robert Count of Meux. It was Herbert 'the Old' who married Eadgifu of Wessex in 951, his nephew Herbert III wasn't born until
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who, taking advantage of the youth of
Herbert II's successor, gave William Longwsord's widow, Luitgarde to his own vassal Theobald 'the Deceiver', count of Blois. But Glaber mistakenly credited Duke William's murder to Theobald 'the Deceiver' instead of Arnulf of
347:, who allocated the County of Laon to Roger II, the son of Roger I, in 941. Herbert and Hugh the Great took back Rheims and captured Artaud. Hugh, the son of Herbert, was restored as archbishop. Again the mediation of the German King
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four more years. But after the death of
Charles in 929, Rudolph again attacked Laon in 931 successfully defeating Herbert. The same year the king entered Rheims and defeated archbishop Hugh, the son of Herbert.
292:, in an effort to appease Herbert II, Seulf solemnly promised Herbert II that he could nominate his successor. In 923, Count Herbert took the bold step of imprisoning King
300:, he acquired for his second son Hugh (then five years old) the archbishopric of Rheims. Herbert took the additional step of sending emissaries to Rome to
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to gain his approval, which that pope gave in 926. On his election young Hugh was sent to
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In the Manner of the Franks: Hunting, Kingship, and
Masculinity in Early Medieval Europe
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This dramatic report of
Herbert II’s death seems to be fiction. It comes from Folcwin’s
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Georges; Wilmotte, Maurice; Prou, Maurice, eds. (1906).
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entitling him to the income of those estates. His marriage with a daughter of king
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Norgate, Kate (1890). "Odo of
Champagne, Count of Blois and Tyrant of Burgundy".
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became the new archbishop of Reims. Herbert II then lost, in three years, Vitry,
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947:Death and life in the tenth century
379:Herbert married Adele, daughter of
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945:Duckett, Eleanor Shipley (1967).
614:Deeds of the Abbots of St. Bertin
324:. The intervention of his ally,
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949:. University of Michigan Press.
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999:McKitterick, Rosamond (1999).
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731:Labande, Léon-Honoré (1978).
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255:Herbert I of Vermandois
253:Herbert was the son of
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940:. Hambledon Continuum.
936:Bradbury, Jim (2007).
1021:Taitz, Emily (1994).
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152:Saint-Quentin, France
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553:; married secondly,
516:Robert of Vermandois
476:Arnulf I of Flanders
448:Gerberge of Lorraine
405:Eudes of Vermandois
369:Saint-Quentin, Aisne
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137:Robert of Vermandois
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464:Adela of Vermandois
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209:Carolingian dynasty
177:Adele of Vermandois
84:Count of Vermandois
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474:Married 934 Count
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528:and Troyes
508:Charles III
398:Death Date
302:Pope John X
294:Charles III
267:St. Quentin
259:Charlemagne
98:Predecessor
65:Predecessor
1050:943 deaths
1034:Categories
1003:. Longman.
719:Taitz 1994
655:References
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542: 915
491: 910
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412: 910
395:Birth Date
308:to study.
271:St. Médard
227:Herbert II
173:Adalbert I
112:Adalbert I
647:Flanders.
263:Lay abbot
243:Champagne
189:Luitgarde
133:Successor
108:Successor
102:Herbert I
75:Successor
69:Herbert I
446:Married
345:Louis IV
322:Soissons
283:Beauvais
930:Sources
642:It was
422:and of
355:, near
306:Auxerre
298:Rudolph
204:Dynasty
128:907–943
93:907–943
60:907–930
424:Vienne
375:Family
349:Otto I
314:Artaud
237:, and
215:Father
185:Robert
170:Eudes
157:Spouse
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