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whatever reason a check gets done on that IP, they will look like socks to the checkuser who performed the check. The theory is that if there's a declaration on one or both user pages, that will alert the checkuser to not be so hasty with the sockhammer. Of course, there's no guarantee that the checkuser will read the user pages before blocking.
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On further thought, I think it is broadly bad advice and should be removed. If a checkuser is prone to discover the connection, noting that they don’t discover by fishing but by there being a reason to look, then others too are prone to discover interesting edit patterns by the single IP, and if the
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If the user(s) have registered their relationship with arbcom but not put any notification on their user pages at all, it's almost certain that the checkuser will have no clue, but at least if one or the other user appeals the block to arbcom, they'll have a record of the disclosure and the user will
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I think it is far better advice to register an account. Emailing personal information to ArbCom, out of fear of discovery of that personal information, feels to me to be really bad advice. ArbCom email is a proven security risk. Email is a terrible security risk. If you have realised that you are
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for contact details. If you take this option, a non-specific note on your user page to the effect of "I share an IP with another editor, please contact ArbCom for more information" might be a good idea. Also note that none of this is carte blanche to sock, nor does it guarantee that inquisitive
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I'll leave it to other funcs to chime in if they want, but you are correct that this is an imperfect process (and that's orthogonal to the question of whether this page is the right place for it to be documented). If there are two people on a single IP (as a real example, my wife and I) and for
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I suppose that's true, but then so is what was there before. This started when I was asked off-wiki by an editor who was sharing an IP what they should do to make sure they weren't accused of socking, and didn't want to publicly declare their relationship to the other editor. I knew about the
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covers a similar situation. If that were ever implemented, the same mechanism couldn't be used in these cases. It would be a far more useful process than emailing arbcom who then squirrels away the information someplace where it probably won't ever get looked at until it's too late.
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If two people would prefer to not be discovered as connected, they should register and never again edit logged out. They should each register an email address so that they can be asked privately should a checkuser or anyone else want to ask a question.
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Yes. The whole section is advice for IP editors who want to avoid being accused of socking. It is not policy that IP editors should do any of this. The whole section amounts to advice for a concern. It’s fair advice, but not advice I would
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to check, let alone actually having the connection be made. Even making a disclosure to ArbCom does not prevent a pair of people from being connected if it's obvious to the point where a CU is looking at them in the first place.
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I assume this is non-controversial, but I've been surprised by that before so noting it here first (and already discussed briefly off-wiki with some other functionaries), I'm going to add to the end of the first paragraph of
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others are to do anything, it is to publicly ask about the suspected connection. If the IP editors think they have some protection from public discovery by having sent an email, they are badly mistaken.
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to clarify, seems maybe unclear, this came up because 2 users with accounts live in the same residence/use the same wifi. I don't think anyone in that house was editing logged out.
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sharing an IP with someone you know, and you don’t want this known, you should register and never edit with that IP address logged out again.
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on Knowledge. Policies have wide acceptance among editors and are considered a standard for all users to follow. Please review
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As Joe says, if they are not tag-teaming articles and are editing in different spheres, there really shouldn't even be a
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Alternatively, a user could declare (in confidence) this connection by emailing the Arbitration Committee. See
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before making any substantive change to this page. Always remember to
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editors (or even checkusers) won't make connections on their own.
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this addition, because it is not policy but advice, aka bloat.
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The project page associated with this talk page is an official
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get unblocked. Far from perfect, but better than nothing.
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n.b. I also dislike email and dislike email big list. --
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