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1899:Oeconomicus
1892:Memorabilia
1569:(1971 film)
1561:(1966 film)
1499:(2007 play)
1483:(1759 play)
747:Julia Annas
743:stylometric
727:stylometric
410:Definitions
2554:Myth of Er
2514:Allegories
2420:Sophrosyne
2396:Philosophy
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