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280:, on July 2, 1924, out of wedlock, to John Spry and Myrtle Lee Tripp. Vann's mother married Aaron Frank Vann, and Vann took his stepfather's surname; Vann had three half-siblings. In 1942, Aaron Vann officially adopted him. Although the Vann children grew up in near-poverty, Vann was able to attend boarding school at
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762:"These people may be the world's greatest lovers but they're not the world's greatest fighters. But they're good people and they can win a war if someone shows them how." (speaking about the South Vietnamese)
361:. He led the unit on reconnaissance missions behind enemy lines for three months, before a serious illness in one of his children resulted in his transfer back to the United States. While assigned to
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1389:"Trapped By Vietnam : Before He Could Tell the Tale of a Soldier and a War, Neil Sheehan First Had to Battle His Own Emotions"
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A Bright Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam
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19:"John Vann" redirects here. For the baseball player, see
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1716:. University Press of Kentucky. p. 236.
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1487:"An American Soldier in Vietnam"
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454:. In the thick of the anti-
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1421:"Career Approached Legend"
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658:A Bright Shining Lie
592:William Westmoreland
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1684:Vietnam: A History
1660:. Harcourt Brace.
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