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much towards being a specific history of EOD as it relates to the United States' military, rather than a general history of the field. As for the concerns above regarding the safety of bomb technicians, this article does not need to go into the specific details of defusing individual fuses, although there is scope for a discussion of generic fuse types (timed, motion-sensing, etc). In general however I do not believe that the integrity and completeness of Knowledge's coverage - which always comes from non-classified sources, available elsewhere - should be impaired in order to protect the lives of any individual or group which might be affected by such coverage. -

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Carolina University's Hunter Library, or through the NATEODA (National EOD Association) archives. I felt the Wiki article needed more coverage of Col. Thomas J. Kane, whose role in founding EOD has gone largely unnoticed -- that my work deals with Kane specifically is a matter of fact. Bomb disposal veterans and active members -- including a high-ranking CSM -- have read my thesis. I don't think it's too selfish to credit your own work, as long as you are honest about it. Finally, I felt that the British contribution to early EOD far outweighed the U.S. role, given we never experienced anything like the London Blitz. It's just a matter of viewpoint.

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good reason. I absolutely do NOT think even a generic treatment of these topics are appropriate for inclusion. I find it a fascinating topic myself, but you have to weigh what the public would like to know versus what will educate a potential adversary and put my fellow brother and sister Techs at risk. In fact, if you have access, you'll find an article I wrote on exactly this topic for the magazine of the International Association of Bomb Technicians and Investigators.

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new definitions, like UER (unexploded remnants) ERW, ad nauseum. The primary difference I see, and the gap is growing, is that a UXO Tech is limited to 'the grid'. An EOD Tech goes anywhere and does anything. And, since you can now never be an EOD Tech, put yourself through a UXO level I school, and go anywhere in the world and do UXO work, I see a significant difference in the capacities. Civilians can't do EOD work. PSBT's can't do EOD work.

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immediately see one searching for or needs existing pages to be made more prominent in links within this section The greater proportion of real-world incidents, sadly, seems to be from landmines and cluster bomblets; so mention of, or links to pages describing, how these are located before they do unwarranted damage would not be inappropriate.

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One other thing, I'm an American and all of us in EOD know that our program was styled after the British UXB soldiers from WWII. So enough babble about who's country does more work or who is more experienced. I would say it is pretty clear that the US EOD folks are gaining plenty of experience over

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I think we can take it for granted that the people who choose to follow this page know something about the subject. There is no need for any bias; we should be able to include information about US, UK, and any other eod operations, as far as there are reliable sources for the material and people want

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Now I have been trained in both EOD and IEDD and worked extensively in both fields (mostly high threat IEDD though), my thoughts are the article should have a more non American bias to it, remember America has only had to put up with terrorism for a couple of years compared to Israel, Germany, Spain,

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About equipment........ the reason I don't participate in entries such as pipe bomb, IED, and the like, is that I think they discuss things in too great a detail. Even though you can glean certain details of tools and methodology from searching the Internet, these things are closely guarded. And, for

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The UXO thing - I am following US Corps of Engineering terminology on that. There are actually levels, UXO I/II/III Tech, SUXO... I agree with you that in the old days, an unexploded object was a UXO, and many still refer to it as that. But, due to CoE and IMAS STANAG work, there is a whole bunch of

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Save one paragraph, there is very little in this entry that is NOT US/UK related. I say, we leave the entry as is. At the bottom, we make a new header entitled "EOD Operations in Other Countries." This satifies the globality you are so bent on seeking, while preserving the work I and many others have

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I agree with your idea. My phraseology was that the school helped them to BECOME (on the path) experts, not that it necessarily confered that status. Actually, the use of the word expert was a sort of tongue-in-cheek reference towards a discussion elsewhere on whether Techs should refer to themselves

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On the score of IEDs, I concur with your statement concerning their long-standing existence in warfare. During my research, I learned how the Japanese would improvise landmines out of American UXBs. These would be buried on beachheads, where landing craft would strike metal to metal, detonating the

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EOD TECHNICIAN: Military EXPLOSIVES ORDNANCE DISPOSAL, till about late 1998 these poor guys were the only operating unit in Pakistan, providing support and response to both the Military and Civil Defence; comprising mainly of Engineers stationed in Rawalpindi, Lahore and parts of Sindh. Equipment was

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For example: Bees have been used to detect landmines. A hive is placed at the edge of an area potentially laced with mines, previously unfamiliar to the bees so that they search in all directions. The bees forage over a radius of something like a mile or two (1 to 3 km) and traces of explosives that

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The article presents EOD and IEDD as though they are two equal parts of "military bomb disposal." In my experience, EOD is an umbrella term which includes IEDD and Conventional Munitions Disposal (CMD). This distinction exists within the Canadian Military. In the UK military, the same distinction

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I respectfully disagree as to your comments about this entry not being correct because it doesn't address Uruguayan EOD. You and others are going to have to deal with the fact that the US and UK started, shaped, and are the leaders in many things. Things are how they are no matter how you attempt to

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I am a little disappointed in the latest revision. The paragraph on low intensity conflicts is rife with issues. What is a lab bomb? An electro-jammer? That and the fact the writer posits that IED's seem to be a 21st century issue. I'd like to hear a discussion on this, or else I am going to heavily

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Quote : 'Just because you have an issue with the United States' Huh? Where did that come from? Msoos simply pointed out that the article is heavily weighted with reference to one country. Given that that country has less experience of 'bomb disposal' than many other countries the bias becomes even

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a real-life bomb disposal technician, it's probably unwise - and against whatever confidentiality agreement you signed - to be contributing to a highly visible, public encyclopaedia. Your IP address seems to be based in Atlanta. You have signed with a name, probably not your own name, but still. Any

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Just to make myself clear. I am not wanting to include how EOD is conducted in e.g. India (there is a guy that keep trying to add crap about that to the article, both you and I have reverted his changes). What I would like to do is to add more info about 'generic' tools and methods. I am not able

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On your second point, are you suggesting truncating the section on the EOD Badge in favor of the seperate entry? I went there and looked at it. I believe it is little more than a stub at this point. And, how come you are not over there making them change the entry to "EOD Badges of the World" as it

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The UN has ZERO to do with EOD operations. There are no international standards. Deminers are NOT EOD. Read the definitions in the entry. This is why this article should be left to subject matter experts, and not guessing or googlePHDs. Go back and reread my comment entitled "for instance". I don't

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Firstly, I listed my historical research alongside two works I felt gave an accurate view of both U.S. and U.K. operations. If it seems self-aggrandizing, it's because I devoted my entire Master's program to bomb disposal history, and wanted others to read my work. It is available through Western

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Hi guys! As I read the article, I think it is very good, with the only problem of it being very much USA-specific. I am not saying that it is wrong for it to contain refeneces to USA bomb disposal, I am only saying that there is simply too much of it. Most probaby this is so because the only people

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prefer to write is not actually the point. Knowledge's preferred style overrides yours. For example, I'm British and so under normal circumstances would always use the spelling "colour". Yet Knowledge style is such that articles on US-related topics generally use US spelling, so that if I edited an

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2) The article talks about "the crab" being distinctive. I am guessing this is referring to the logo that has its own section later on (near the bottom of the article). How about creating a link from the mention of the crab to the logo section? Or, if the crab doesn't refer to the logo, how about a

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I went to the ELSUR page. There's nothing technical there. I don't feel like I could read that page and then conduct any kind of surveillance. In fact, it's patently obvious that the article in reference was created by those who've no direct knowledge of the subject, and have watched way, way, WAY

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rather than its current location at 'Bomb Disposal'. A bomb is a very specific device - either a mortar round, or a device dropped from an aircraft - and the current title does not cover artillery shells, cannon ammunition, missiles, and particularly landmines. The article itself seems to lean too

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This article does not discuss the police role in Bomb disposal. In peacetime situations, the local police are the normal agency who are notified of, or detect, explosives that need Bomb disposal action. This can range from IEDs built for criminal reasons to suspected unexploded ordinance that has

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Hmm... maybe this isn't the place for moralising, but I do think that a section or sections on detection should be added/referenced/linked; more prominently than at present, if I have failed to spot it/them in the present page. A case might also be made for a disambiguation page which leads 'bomb

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Similarly, rats are now being trained to detect explosive devices. On my own part I don't particularly like the idea that some of the rats will inadvertently set off one of the devices they have been trained to detect. Neither do I like the idea that any creature should be trained by computer, as

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is per definition American. If they have a badge, it too can only be American. Firefighting is however not exclusively America. In addition, I find the article about the badge good although it can be expanded. We (or probably those with US service) should expand it. We should definitely link to

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Police: The Police termed "Bomb Disposal Unit" was truly developed in 1999 in Islamabad with the help of retired Army personnel, with limited resources "Detectors, Prods, cabel detectors and non magnetic pliers this poorly equipped unit began its work, to be honest their role was more confined to

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Tom - I have tried to keep this on track for a few years now. I am tired of arguing. They win. Wiki has had enough negative publicity to last a lifetime as of late. I promise you articles like these, allowed to go in the direction some would have it, will do nothing but bring more trouble to the

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I'd also like to support Ashley Pomeroy's point about not censoring ourselves. As it is, I don't get a detailed idea of just HOW bomb disposal experts defuse bombs. Do they hit them with hammers? Burn them? Take them apart with a toolkit? I mean, I could go through the history and see what juicy

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The generic name of their profession is "bomb technician." The rank or title they're given is "EOD Technician." Think of it this way: you can refer to a member of any armed forces of any rank as a "soldier", but refer to one of a specific rank as a "Private" or a "General." You wouldn't say "all

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besides disposal, aren't there robots capable of making bombs? This is useful eg for exploding mines and hazardous old bombs that are still dangerous, yet do not explode when driven on. Making a bomb, quickly on the spot to disable the device is then an option, but mixing the volatile compounds

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EOD, Police Bomb Squad, UXO, and IEDD or Hazardous Device Disposal should all be their own page. The bottom line is that one page cannot accurately describe each individual job. Plus, if you simplify one page and call it Bomb Disposal, no one will ever agree that "Bomb Disposal" is the proper

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I have not investigated published US references on the topic, but when speaking with US operators they seemed to understand the same distinctions as I intended them to understand. I would propose that within the article, EOD should be defined as the umbrella term within which both CMD and IEDD

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Leave your classist mark on the entry. I make no apologies for being US-centric. If you think there is enough data to make Bomb Disposal pages for multiple countries, go ahead. You're wrong. But, don't confuse demining or Public Safety Bomb Disposal with EOD work. It isn't the same, and you are

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The Program among other's recieved a great boost from the U.S. Anti Terrorisim Assistance Program; Via the U.S. Department of State the Government of the United States assisted Pakistan in its own war against terror by providing state of the art training, equipment and support to police EOD/ BD

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I did go overboard when you made reference to "EOD Technicians", as that's an official title like "Detective", but "Technician" and "Bomb Technician" do not seem to be titles used universally throughout the world - they're generic names of professions. In fact, you implied this yourself in this

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It might just be me, but I think that this section is fairly useless. It throws out about 1% of the EOD tools and equipment used by Techs the world over with no real explanations, and as such just looks like it was thrown together as an afterthought. I suggest either removing it entirely, or

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Clearly the main focus of 'bomb disposal' is getting rid of the things. There is nevertheless a whole area that is relevant but which presently doesn't immediately seem to be addressed in the disposal pages: that of detection. Perhaps this aspect needs a new Wiki page in its own right (I can't

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Shawn, I do not feel that you are being constructive in this discussion or that you are respectful in your disagreement. I have worked with EOD operations for the UN (together with your countrymen) for several years in Africa and Eastern Europe. After having read your comments I question your

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How do you figure a military EOD Tech doesn't handle off-base response? Any time a civilian agency requests military support (or any military ordnance is found off-base) a military EOD team will roll. Some bases, especially CONUS Army EOD, handle more off-base responses than anything else.

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I see what you're saying, but I think it would most benefit from ADDING more information from other countries. Removing US references is tantamount to censorship. Just because you have an issue with the United States doesn't mean we should white out all of their contributions to society.....

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1 - I am disappointed to hear someone who presents themselves as affiliated with UXO work stating that coverage here should not be impaired to protect members of the Bomb Disposal community. This opinion is uncharacteristic of one in this field. You ASSUME no sensitive data will be shared.

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EOD Explosive Ordanance disposal - blowing up old air dropped munitions, battlefield munitions or mines IEDD Improvised Explosive Device Disposal - Non commerical devices made by terrorists, criminals, cranks etc Bomb Disposal - What the popular and uninstructed world call EOD or IEDD.

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You know, the US EOD badge is cribbed from the UK one, right? And, many countries now use variations of that badge. I'm not sure that I can agree with your firefighting metaphor. I think it would be a welcomed addition, btw to have the distinctive insignias from other countries here.

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American English and British English differ in their inclination to use capitals. British English uses capitals more widely than American English does. This may apply to titles for people. If possible, as with spelling, use rules appropriate to the cultural and linguistic context.

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In my absence, I note a lot of changes have occurred. Some positive, some no more than vandalism. I have replaced the UXO and PSBT sections, because they are valid and a part of this topic. I re-expanded EOD from Navy EOD to EOD. I recapitalized all instances of Bomb Technician.

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Finally, to help you understand who I am, google for my name. Or, go to www.getcited.org. My last book (on WMD) is sold at Amazon.com, among other places. I have a column with 45k readers concerning bomb issues at policeone.com. And yes, dear Ashley, I do sign everything with my

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Demining is NOT EOD. There are barefoot people demining globally every day. When they hit something, they blow it in place, or a former EOD Tech comes around to decide what to do with it. This is something with your vast international experience, I shouldn't have to explain.

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Are you saying that the original draft left out that US EOD came from UK beginnings? Also, don't you think its' a teeny bit self-aggrandizing to list one of your own works in the reference section? I drew from my book, and from a couple of articles, but didn't cite them.

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I am aware of the revision-saving mechanism here. Having some knowledge of risk and threat assessment, I don't believe that anyone coming here is going to avail themselves of that route. And, those of that level of persistency will undoubtedly find their data elsewhere.

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article on, say, Herbert Hoover, I would write "color". The point is that Knowledge articles should be presented from as neutral a point of view as possible; the point of this encyclopedia is not to show pride in your job, entirely justified though that pride might be.

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I did say that in the US, Military Bomb Technicians are called EOD Techncians. NOT ALL BOMB TECHS ARE EOD TECHS! There seems to be great confusion on this. In the UK, Military Bomb Techs are ATO's; Ammunition Technical Officers. I would also capitalize their titles.

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To dispose of a bomb, you must first find the damm thing. Whether it is proactive detection (sniffers etc), chance find by public, intelligence etc, you must first identify you have a bomb (or at least a credible threat), then into the 4 C's before you start any

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Quote: 'most countries pattern their operations after the US model'. Surely this is a typographical error? Did you mean 'most countries pattern their operations after the U.K. model'? This would more accurately reflect reality and be consistent with the article.

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I* say this entry stands as is. If others would like to create factual entries here about EOD operations in other countries, they are of course welcome to. I will not allow your anti US and UK sentiments to color this otherwise factual and well-written

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What you seem to be suggesting is a massive rewrite of the topic. There are multiple problems with this, not the least of which is that different countries have different skill sets. It would be very difficult to decide what the core skills would be.

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A UXO Tech NEVER handles IEDs. A Police Bomb Technician RARELY handles a missile. A military EOD Technician doesn't do remediation work, nor does he handle off-base response unless on a VIPPSA or shipment accident. Your statement there is too narrow.

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And if anyone wants to see what defuzing a completely unknown type of enemy sea mine (in this case, a German magnetic one) is like, there's a re-enactment of the process (using the actual mine recovered) in the "The Deadly Waves" episode of the 1977

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Let me make this clear for you, Parrot. Nobody died from a Technical Surveillance operation. Many people are killed each year from bombs and bombings. Adding details of how Bomb Technicians operate do NOTHING but put Technicians in danger. Period.

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to add specifics about tools and procedures from my training. Nor can you of yours. That is part of the reason why it would be nice to keep it generic - though edits are still traceable. No matter what, certain items, like the good old disruptor

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who contributed were from the USA (and I am much gretful to these people). So anyone who wants to clean up the article to remove the huge amount of references to USA and add other content instead(!!) to the artice would be much appreciated by me.

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I fixed the odd grammar error and changed the formatting, creating two more sections: 'History' and 'Fields of operations.' I didn't feel that "EOD", "PSBT" and "UXO" belonged under the 'Post-war efforts' section. Anyone have a problem with this?

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The fact is, Knowledge isn't here to 'help' bomb disposal experts or terrorists. Knowledge is here to provide a comprehensive, NPOV source of dictionary relevant information for anyone and everyone. If we can get into the technical details of

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Also, as I have in the past, if I find things that are proliferative in nature here, I will remove them. AS you say, there are plenty of other sources for ne'er do wells to get kewl bomb stuff. There is no reason to duplicate efforts here.

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Shawn, I think that it is better for us to have the discussion here. The fact that no other country operations have been added does not make the current version correct. All that is required is to rename the heading to "Field operations

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policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or

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The first unit to recieve this assistance was "Islamabad Police Bomb Disposal Squad"; the B.D squad now has 7 BATF and FBI certified BOMB TECHNICIANS, POST BOMB BLAST INVESTIGATORS AND CRIME SCENE MANAGEMENT AND INVESTAGATIONS OFFICERS.

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Soldiers of the Farrinland military are called Privates" - you'd say "all soldiers of the Farrinland military are called Privates" - they have one official title ("Private"), and then they have a generic professional title ("soldier").

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I find it interesting that when I began shaping this entry, there was very little content or interest here. Now that it has taken flight, there are a lot of vagabond editors wanting to make severe changes to the timbre of the article.

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To answer your assumptions, A NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) prevents me from discussing *certain* things. Writing the definition of Bomb Disposal isn't one of them. In fact, I make a great deal of money writing about that very topic.

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2 - No. munitions are specific examples. Bombs and Bomb Disposal are overarching topics. If you feel those items deserve more specific treatment, them please do so by creating seperate definitions for them and linking back here.

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I doubt it would add anything to the article at all. It shows nothing of importance, in fact it is quite misleading as it shows 2 EOD operators, so breaches the 1 man rule anyhow. They are probably just stood around talking.

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they carry back to the hive with the pollen they collect can be detected with sensitive equipment. If no traces of explosive are detected, it is presumed safe to move on and transfer the hive further into the uncharted area.

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4 - most countries pattern their operations after the US model. Therefore, it is deserving of the lions' share of attention. You have more info on the history of the New Zealand / Australian / whomever , feel free to add it.

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I'm not trying to nitpick and I won't even change the article, because I'm not really sure if the two titles are used officially (keyword) throughout the world when referring to "technicians that deal with bomb disposal."

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The PSBD / PSBT thing, it's a work in progress over here. The overwhelming majority of references to it use the acronym PSBT for the Technician, but discuss it in the generic sense that it is Public Safety Bomb Disposal.

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I stand by my original idea of leaving the entry as stands, and adding additional countries as they become available. Which is, by the way, a moot point because there really isn't any other data available at the moment.

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As for the explaining EOD when it is first mentioned, I see your point. There are actually several branches, which is why they are all discussed later in detail. Maybe also hotlink the words to their later descriptions?

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Well, we have been labelled monostatistic. Yes, I made that word up. I've suggested we have sections on other countries' efforts in the arena, but we really haven't gotten anything of merit. Any ideas? -Shawn

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I know where what you're saying is coming from. Again, the entry was a poke at the semantics of expert vs knowledgeable. If you testify in a US court on the topic, you will be introduced as an expert witness.

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For instance, I would capitalize the word Doctor. Doctor is a title of honor. I would also capitalize Neurosurgeon, Cardiovascular Surgeon, and the like, because, while more specific, they are still titles.

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international experience. Demining is not EOD (in the US system) but on the international scene, particularly in mine/IED infested missions, EOD outfits are often called upon to do emergency demining.

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AT0: Ammunition Technical Officer "Deal with UXO's and ordnance" (Note: Several Sections of the Pakistan army are still heavily reliant on old British traditions, as can be seen by their khaki uniform.

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I think that EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) should be a separate article from "Bomb Squad". They do perform similar tasks, but they are different. I believe that they deserve a separate section.

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EOD units are called upon to do many things in an emergency. This article isn't entitled "What we do in an emergency". You are welcome to stub that out elsewhere based on your peripheral experience.

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Thank you for transforming the article into a Britrocentric one. Now, lets' hear everyone complain that it is too British. Or, would the lack of complaints reveal wiki's anti-American sentiment?

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This place is for reference work by people in school and those with no ill will. Adding the data you suggest on fuzing and munitions only serves to invite those with less-than-honorable intent.

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If you have fresh content, feel free to add. If you are pedantic, obessive/compulsive, or otherwise want to randomly alter a topic because it catches your eye, I will revert it. Over and over.

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OK. Let us leave it the way it is for the moment. So long as it has the banner, which you said you were OK with, the end result is half-way what I am after. As for your questions/statements:

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I appreciate that you say that you aren't nitpicking. I'll admit readily that I am. Small things are important to me, like holding doors open, saluting our flag, and capitalizing Bomb Tech.

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Your assumptions about what a Bomb Technician can and cannot do only underscores the reason you should not be *helping* with this topic. Your lack of knowledge in this arena speaks volumes.

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In short, as it stands, it is a good definition. Adding the things you propose will only muddy the issues. Consider creating subdefinitions as a way of keeping this definition streamlined.

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Shawn Hughes is NOT and NEVER was a Bomb Technician or an EOD Technician. He is a FRAUD and a TSO (Screener) with TSA. srh@esper.com email him and ask for a copy of any certifications.

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Snozzer - "EOD Explosive Ordanance disposal".... before you go casting stones, you should look at your own house. It's ORDNANCE, not ordanance. Can you spell wanker? How about Rupert?

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At any rate, I don't believe a 90% article should be altered to help the other 10% feel better about themselves. I think we should add on other countries as they become available.

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why don't we add a segment called other countries? The Pak data would be an excellent addition! Ideally, I'd like to see someone knowledgeable from every country adding a section.

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Mr Shawn has a vaild concern when he states that certian terms, techniques and methodologies should not be openly discussed. Its like airing your ops breifing on the public radio.

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Thank you for your contributions. Knowledge is a collaborative enterprise; you and anyone else is welcome to edit here subject to our policies. These include, among other things,

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I believe it was me -- I wrote my Master's Thesis on the origins of U.S. EOD, giving proper credit to the Royal Engineers for training and supporting our Army and Navy ordnance.

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My opinion is that this article is mature and big enough for being split up. If the separation of bomb disposal/EOD is unsuitable I say that a new article should be created on

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I looked, but can't find which stylebook Wiki uses. Before you go uncapitalizing my work, can you quote a definitive source that positively forbids me to capitalize titles?

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I can't be an official part of anything that will wind up hurting Technicians, and that's the direction I see this going. Consider me no longer contributing to this topic.

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I am a Bomb Techncian. You err in that you are looking at it from the generic to the specific. I suggest that you look at it from increasing levels of sub-specialization.

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PS - I will remind future editors of this page that certain topics related to this very public page do not need to be discussed in depth. Help protect Bomb Technicians!

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Meanwhile, as I have stated repeatedly above, I welcome sections by knowledgeable people on other countries' operations. Use your contacts and have some others come.

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Being that I am also a paid writer, I would suggest contacting those same groups. THEY capitalize those words. Some of the larger style guides also agree with this.

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It was (is) the money clip that links to where you can buy one. I don't want to remove it. I support Technicians. I just was unclear on if this was ok, is all.....

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I made some edits. Civilian Bomb Techs also play a role in VIPPSA's. I won't go into it in an open forum, but it's not totally the domain of the Military EOD Tech.

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That solves all the issues! Anyone who wants to can then create similar structures for other countries. A good example of an article with a similar structure is

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making an error because you do not recognize the correct definitions for the tasks. I promise you, the people who actually do the work will and call you on it.

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I'm sorry, but the words EOD, Bomb Technician, and Technician should ALWAYS be capitalized. They, like Patrolman and Detective, are titles of honour.... /Shawn

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It's a five week course. It teaches you the basics of being a Tech. It doesn't really even start to make you an expert. I would recommend changing the line to:

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section lacks any mention of specialised vehicles used in this role. It would be informative to add a little information about them, as well as a link to the

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I also capitalize Soldier, Sailor, and Marine. In a cold, high-school or college sense, you may choose to not capitalize these, also calling them generic.

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Clearly, this is in contrast with Shawn's definition! The fact that there are more than definition means that we have to accomodate for them all.

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Someone has anonymously made some changes. Some were incorrect, and I have rolled them back. EOD is *NOT* an all-encompassing term. Even in the UK.

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if anyone is curious as to how the British learnt to defuze German bombs. Although it's a drama the technical details are reasonably accurate.

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has been partially adopted by the UN. It does not mention bomb disposal, but with a clear emphasis on humanitarian demining it defines EOD as:

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The suits were uncomfortable and non-cooling "unlike the ones today", imagine trying to work with one of those in tempratures exceeding 47*c

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That's an idea. I'll ask for some consensus on this from the other editors, since i'm not quite clear on how everything is interrelated.

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I realize that this may seem persnickety, but you will find that very few can be EOD, and they are very close-guarding of this title.

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Now when we have decided not to do any major changes there are a couple of minor issues on the page that you can clear up for me.

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are often faced with two wires, not knowing which to cut to avoid the bomb going off. Is this an accurate part of bomb disposal?

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good suggestions. I am not sure about how to link the crab (word) with the crab (later section). Can you wikify this for me?

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Logan, thanks for the comments. My inference isn't just from personal pride, I also follow several standards in my writing.

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apparently they are, for this task. But I can't easily deny that it's better that a rat should be sacrificed than a child.

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As a side discussion, I note your strength is in DP/M. Have you considered starting a wiki entry for Disaster Management?

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People are making anonymous changes. I think there needs to be a little discussion before a great deal of revising occurs.

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Let us focus on solutions as to avoid having the polemics going out of control. My suggestion is simple and it will not

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Instead, I see people who know nothing, and can contribute nothing but inaccuracies altering the tone of the document.

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The level of smugness is incredible. This is why you all have such trouble getting UXO work on CoE contracts. Cheers!

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details Shawn deleted. Or they could just be in the main article, which is better and simpler. Maybe even a page on

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interpret them. There is no waiting list for the Chilean EOD School. Because they send their Technicians here.

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When I came to this entry, there was very little. I have tried to cultivate this into something worthy.

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Oops - I apologise for writing the above anonymously. I didn't realise at the time that I'd signed out.

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This school helps them to become experts in the detection, diagnosis and disposal of hazardous devices.

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did. I find that you are not affiliated with any sort of explosives work, at least legit, whatsoever.

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Surfed in looking for another topic, and see this needs work. Believe I'll take a stab at it. - Shawn

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Ah me... someone did ask for review ... please let me know if review talk should be added elsewhere.

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This entry does not violate NPOV. Noone in here is saying one place is better or worse than another.

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Thanks! I'll start cleaning it up and tweaking it soon. Where does it come from, incidentally?

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disposal' optionally to the SALT talks on mutual reduction of stockpiles of nuclear weapons.

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I find it interesting that you didn't do any homework besides seeing my IP before responding.

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With this I will leave you alone for a while. I will check back in in a couple of weeks.

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This school teaches the basics of detection, diagnosis and disposal of hazardous devices.

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May i steal some of your time to write a brief history of EODD developments in Pakistan;

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can be found but with the addition of Biological and Chemical Munitions Disposal (BCMD).

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Why are there two EOD sections? The second is basically USNEOD. What's with the change?

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providig perimiter security rather then actual disposal or neturalization of a device.

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Why does this article not state that you can call 999 to get the bomb disposal unit?

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redirect here - that article consists of only a single sentence and a 'see also'. -

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EOD Techs do not consider themselves experts, they're "knowledgeable individuals".

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I believe I'm ok with it. Rolled back a change to PSBT. There isn't a PSBD. /Shawn

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Whoever did the last revision, a tip of the helmet to you. Excellent work! /Shawn

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The "EOD" part seems to be largely copied from some other place. Needs cleanup. --

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But as I mentioned above, there are three headings that 'only' talk about the US.

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Save one paragraph, there is very little in this entry that is NOT US/UK related

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Good! And I don't think that was me. I didn't touch any of the actual content.

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I have enjoyed this discussion, and I hope you bring something away from it.

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This is an important entry, and the only one I choose to regularly follow.

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there is a link to a e-commerce site on this page. Is that a use violation?

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name, because I never say anything in cyberspace that I wouldn't in person.

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I made a very cogent response here that somehow got deleted. In a nutshell:

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If I change it to "on the path to becoming", would this sound more clear?

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I hope you'll reconsider your interest in proliferating our technology.

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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as a concept is something we should link to as well. The list is long.

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That's what is great about an opinion, you have yours and I have mine.

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Not all bombs utilize explosives. The proper term is Hazardous Device.

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What is your actual agenda for wanting such upheaval in this entry??

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Should this be split along civilian bomb disposal v.s. military EOD?

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mine. The Nazis were past masters, too! And what about Vietnam?

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Probably because as far as I'm aware that only applies to the UK.

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I'm sorry you don't feel I'm being constructive or respectful.

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You are suggesting throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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