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to in the 1930's while he was alive, and in fact the very reason why I have done hours and months of research on my great uncle is as well as telling his story, to keep his name alive! I would be very grateful if you would consider whether you have actually made the right decision in changing his
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else has resolved it, a bit psycological but will help me get on top of sorting through the list thanks again for your help and if you know anyone who would be suited to helping to fix the grammer and any other probs I would be most gratefull! many thanks
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