660:
915:). As explained in the expanded history section, a number of historians who've written histories of the city (most notably Janet Abu-Lughod and André Raymond) trace its origins to Fustat, with Cairo merely being the latest and most significant of the subsequent foundations added to it. That said, I'm unsure about the best wording to balance precision with conciseness in an infobox, so any further suggestions are welcome. One could also, arguably, add the construction of the former Roman fortress (no specific date but I've seen c. 300 AD used as an approximation), but that might be complicating things too much or it might be blurring the line too much with all the earlier (but non-continuous) forts and settlements in the region during Antiquity.
877:
Middle East as far as science is concerned. It was just a coined word used by the
British and relative to British. How can someone from Sudan really refer to Egypt as Middle East?? 🤔 Use your common sense. Israel/ Palestine are the gateway to Asia and where Asia starts. So you can associate Egypt with any culture but it won’t change the fact that it is in Africa; the same way if Spain was predominantly Arab and Muslim it would still be European based on its geographical location. So it’s not Afro centrist it’s just common logic and sense. Unless you spear head another continental drift that will allocate Egypt’s departure from the northern most eastern part of our continent and lands over Iraq; Egypt is still African by geography.
943:
those historians explicitly say so. Just because the name "Cairo" originates with the
Fatimid foundation does not mean the city as a whole began then. Summarizing the city's starting point as 969 is misleading both in terms of representing the article's content and in terms of what reliable sources present. Considering that the lead is not very long and the revised wording adds only about two sentences, I have a hard time seeing the justification for suddenly excluding basic information. No issues were raised when these revisions to the article and the lead were made two months ago. If it's a matter of wanting to be more concise, the same information can still be condensed in the lead without eliminating the basics.
526:
505:
283:
342:
848:
with the first section of the article regarding the fact that Cairo is a Middle
Eastern city. I think the Afro centrist thinks that the Middle East is a continent and that the fact that Egypt is both an African and a Middle Eastern country contradict. This is what happens when people in 2019 get no education and instead spend all their time on social media getting their information off of Facebook and Twitter memes. Yes we do live in those times...dark times.. Anyways, here is the source that the person editing this keeps messing with and removing
31:
332:
311:
437:
416:
892:
continent, does not contradict the fact that it is also part of the Middle East. The Middle East is not confined to only Asia. It extends to Africa via Egypt and to Europe via Turkey. It is on the crossroads of Africa, Asia and Europe. Second of all, the gateway to Asia is the Sinai
Peninsula of Egypt, not "Palestine/Israel". This is why this Cairo article should be locked just like they did with the Middle East and Egypt articles, because it is always changed by uneducated people in this subject.
536:
789:
696:
197:
169:
85:
64:
95:
22:
207:
263:
614:
876:
What’s your problem??? Egypt is physically on the continent of Africa that makes Egypt an
African countries and we are very aware most Egyptians are not black if that’s your worry of being mistaken to be your primitive black brothers and sisters down south. That’s just logic. There’s no such thing as
942:
the lead is a summary of the article, and a large part of the history section concerns the periods before 969. Not only that, but any reliable history of Cairo begins at least as early as the foundation of Fustat; e.g. Abu-Lughod and
Raymond's books, among other sources cited on this page. In fact,
847:
Somebody keeps messing with the sources and trying to mess with the fact that Cairo is the largest city in the Middle East. He keeps deleting the section that says "largest city in the Middle East" and the source for that keeps moving to other sections due to the anonymous editor that keeps messing
974:
I didn't say it was literally the oldest, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say, since the current wording of the lead mentions the earlier settlements too, for that very reason. If it's of any relevance to this discussion, Fustat is indeed the most important early foundation which led to the
891:
You are wrong on all accounts and this is why articles should be protected. The Middle East is not predicated on continental boundaries. It is like you said, not a scientific term, but it is a geopolitical term that has cultural and historical significance. The fact that Egypt is in the
African
842:
664:
901:
1124:
886:
870:
676:
893:
1089:
1129:
592:
849:
487:
1189:
1004:
858:
398:
151:
1079:
1047:
292:
183:
1046:
I see all over the place that the flag of cairo isn't the one used in on this page. Is it even official, or just some idiot made up the flag.
1174:
1159:
1114:
1094:
975:
development of the modern city; again, that's explicitly said by Abu-Lughod (1971, p. 7) and
Raymond (1993, p. 13), already cited in text.
582:
477:
743:
1184:
960:
It isn't "exactly" right since Fustat itself wasn't even the oldest settlement, hence why the detailed settlements section is correct.
1194:
1119:
1074:
1164:
984:
969:
1144:
1084:
388:
1104:
558:
141:
1169:
1134:
906:
758:
710:
453:
1154:
1149:
754:
35:
1109:
746:
924:
850:
https://www.prlog.org/10332580-cairo-alqahira-is-egypts-capital-and-the-largest-city-in-the-middle-east-and-africa.html
1179:
549:
510:
364:
272:
237:
179:
1139:
911:
I've revised the foundation date in the infobox to include the foundation of Fustat as well as "Cairo" proper (see
645:
444:
421:
117:
1099:
1069:
866:
651:
641:
355:
316:
220:
174:
44:
1035:
897:
832:
750:
108:
69:
912:
843:
Who is the Afro centrist that Keeps removing the fact that Cairo is the
Biggest city in the Middle East?
952:
637:
999:
Can anyone please change the name from Cairo to Cairo, Egypt because there is another city it name is
965:
525:
504:
557:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
452:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
363:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
236:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
116:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
1023:
862:
716:
50:
1031:
1008:
980:
948:
929:
920:
854:
802:
722:
700:
768:
head office, Egyptair Administrative Complex, to use in the Economy section of the article
8:
961:
935:
882:
21:
282:
541:
1012:
1051:
728:
1022:. However I seriously doubt that would gain any support since this is obviously the
233:
1055:
1027:
1003:
it’s better thing because maybe someone thinks that city is the same another one
1000:
976:
944:
916:
554:
331:
310:
878:
811:
1063:
788:
347:
212:
1019:
535:
100:
436:
415:
817:
449:
634:
headquarters in Cairo, Egyptair Administrative Complex, Airport Road
196:
168:
994:
939:
813:
765:
631:
1041:
1018:
If you're serious about that proposal then you will need to make
815:
84:
63:
668:
360:
818:
704:
113:
229:
225:
262:
448:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the
1125:
C-Class WikiProject Cities national capital articles
782:
644:. Please replace this template with a more specific
553:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
531:
359:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
337:
224:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
202:
112:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
90:
1061:
1090:Knowledge level-3 vital articles in Geography
826:This page has archives. Sections older than
1130:WikiProject Cities national capital articles
290:This article is supported by the project's
667:may be able to locate suitable images on
1190:Knowledge requested photographs in Cairo
19:
1062:
836:when more than 5 sections are present.
1080:Knowledge vital articles in Geography
686:
608:
547:This article is within the scope of
442:This article is within the scope of
353:This article is within the scope of
218:This article is within the scope of
106:This article is within the scope of
15:
1175:Mid-importance Middle Ages articles
1160:High-importance Arab world articles
1115:C-Class WikiProject Cities articles
1095:C-Class vital articles in Geography
49:It is of interest to the following
13:
612:
281:
261:
14:
1206:
1185:All WikiProject Middle Ages pages
830:may be automatically archived by
665:Openverse Creative Commons Search
567:Knowledge:WikiProject Middle Ages
270:This article is on the project's
1195:Knowledge pages with to-do lists
1120:WikiProject Cities core articles
1075:Knowledge level-3 vital articles
787:
694:
570:Template:WikiProject Middle Ages
534:
524:
503:
462:Knowledge:WikiProject Arab world
435:
414:
340:
330:
309:
205:
195:
167:
93:
83:
62:
29:
20:
1165:WikiProject Arab world articles
587:This article has been rated as
482:This article has been rated as
465:Template:WikiProject Arab world
393:This article has been rated as
146:This article has been rated as
1145:Top-importance Africa articles
1085:C-Class level-3 vital articles
1:
1105:Top-importance Egypt articles
907:Foundation date(s) in infobox
561:and see a list of open tasks.
456:and see a list of open tasks.
367:and see a list of open tasks.
240:and see a list of open tasks.
120:and see a list of open tasks.
1170:C-Class Middle Ages articles
1135:All WikiProject Cities pages
1036:08:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
1013:08:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
925:22:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
902:15:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
887:09:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
871:07:23, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
373:Knowledge:WikiProject Africa
246:Knowledge:WikiProject Cities
7:
1155:C-Class Arab world articles
1150:WikiProject Africa articles
376:Template:WikiProject Africa
252:WikiProject Cities articles
249:Template:WikiProject Cities
126:Knowledge:WikiProject Egypt
10:
1211:
1110:WikiProject Egypt articles
593:project's importance scale
488:project's importance scale
399:project's importance scale
293:national capital taskforce
152:project's importance scale
129:Template:WikiProject Egypt
1056:21:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
985:00:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
970:00:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
953:23:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
586:
519:
481:
430:
392:
325:
289:
269:
190:
145:
78:
57:
1180:C-Class history articles
621:It is requested that an
1140:C-Class Africa articles
550:WikiProject Middle Ages
1100:C-Class Egypt articles
1070:C-Class vital articles
833:Lowercase sigmabot III
661:Free Image Search Tool
646:media request template
617:
445:WikiProject Arab world
286:
266:
655:may be able to help!
616:
285:
265:
36:level-3 vital article
938:and IP editor.) Per
671:and other web sites.
652:Wikipedians in Cairo
573:Middle Ages articles
642:improve its quality
640:in this article to
468:Arab world articles
757:so that it can be
734:Updated 2021-08-24
618:
542:Middle Ages portal
356:WikiProject Africa
287:
267:
232:and various other
221:WikiProject Cities
45:content assessment
894:Ahmad Abdul Malik
873:
857:comment added by
840:
839:
779:
778:
685:
684:
672:
607:
606:
603:
602:
599:
598:
498:
497:
494:
493:
409:
408:
405:
404:
304:
303:
300:
299:
184:National capitals
162:
161:
158:
157:
109:WikiProject Egypt
1202:
852:
835:
819:
791:
783:
773:Priority 1 (top)
735:
698:
697:
687:
681:
679:
658:
648:where possible.
615:
609:
575:
574:
571:
568:
565:
544:
539:
538:
528:
521:
520:
515:
507:
500:
499:
470:
469:
466:
463:
460:
439:
432:
431:
426:
418:
411:
410:
381:
380:
377:
374:
371:
350:
345:
344:
343:
334:
327:
326:
321:
313:
306:
305:
254:
253:
250:
247:
244:
215:
210:
209:
208:
199:
192:
191:
186:
171:
164:
163:
134:
133:
130:
127:
124:
103:
98:
97:
96:
87:
80:
79:
74:
66:
59:
58:
42:
33:
32:
25:
24:
16:
1210:
1209:
1205:
1204:
1203:
1201:
1200:
1199:
1060:
1059:
1044:
1024:WP:PRIMARYTOPIC
997:
932:
909:
845:
831:
820:
814:
796:
775:
774:
771:
764:Photograph the
709:
695:
677:
675:
613:
572:
569:
566:
563:
562:
555:the Middle Ages
540:
533:
513:
484:High-importance
467:
464:
461:
458:
457:
425:High‑importance
424:
379:Africa articles
378:
375:
372:
369:
368:
346:
341:
339:
319:
251:
248:
245:
242:
241:
211:
206:
204:
177:
131:
128:
125:
122:
121:
99:
94:
92:
72:
43:on Knowledge's
40:
30:
12:
11:
5:
1208:
1198:
1197:
1192:
1187:
1182:
1177:
1172:
1167:
1162:
1157:
1152:
1147:
1142:
1137:
1132:
1127:
1122:
1117:
1112:
1107:
1102:
1097:
1092:
1087:
1082:
1077:
1072:
1043:
1040:
1039:
1038:
1020:Requested Move
996:
993:
992:
991:
990:
989:
988:
987:
962:Fragrant Peony
936:Fragrant Peony
931:
928:
908:
905:
844:
841:
838:
837:
825:
822:
821:
816:
812:
810:
807:
806:
798:
797:
792:
786:
777:
776:
772:
770:
769:
762:
737:
692:
690:
683:
682:
673:
657:
619:
605:
604:
601:
600:
597:
596:
589:Mid-importance
585:
579:
578:
576:
559:the discussion
546:
545:
529:
517:
516:
514:Mid‑importance
508:
496:
495:
492:
491:
480:
474:
473:
471:
454:the discussion
440:
428:
427:
419:
407:
406:
403:
402:
395:Top-importance
391:
385:
384:
382:
365:the discussion
352:
351:
335:
323:
322:
320:Top‑importance
314:
302:
301:
298:
297:
288:
278:
277:
268:
258:
257:
255:
238:the discussion
217:
216:
200:
188:
187:
172:
160:
159:
156:
155:
148:Top-importance
144:
138:
137:
135:
132:Egypt articles
118:the discussion
105:
104:
88:
76:
75:
73:Top‑importance
67:
55:
54:
48:
26:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1207:
1196:
1193:
1191:
1188:
1186:
1183:
1181:
1178:
1176:
1173:
1171:
1168:
1166:
1163:
1161:
1158:
1156:
1153:
1151:
1148:
1146:
1143:
1141:
1138:
1136:
1133:
1131:
1128:
1126:
1123:
1121:
1118:
1116:
1113:
1111:
1108:
1106:
1103:
1101:
1098:
1096:
1093:
1091:
1088:
1086:
1083:
1081:
1078:
1076:
1073:
1071:
1068:
1067:
1065:
1058:
1057:
1053:
1049:
1037:
1033:
1029:
1025:
1021:
1017:
1016:
1015:
1014:
1010:
1006:
1002:
986:
982:
978:
973:
972:
971:
967:
963:
959:
958:
957:
956:
955:
954:
950:
946:
941:
937:
927:
926:
922:
918:
914:
904:
903:
899:
895:
889:
888:
884:
880:
874:
872:
868:
864:
860:
856:
851:
834:
829:
824:
823:
809:
808:
805:
804:
800:
799:
795:
790:
785:
784:
781:
767:
763:
761:and featured.
760:
756:
752:
748:
745:
742:Improve this
741:
740:
739:
736:
733:
730:
727:
724:
721:
718:
715:
712:
708:
706:
702:
691:
689:
688:
680:
674:
670:
666:
662:
656:
654:
653:
647:
643:
639:
635:
633:
628:
624:
620:
611:
610:
594:
590:
584:
581:
580:
577:
560:
556:
552:
551:
543:
537:
532:
530:
527:
523:
522:
518:
512:
509:
506:
502:
501:
489:
485:
479:
476:
475:
472:
455:
451:
447:
446:
441:
438:
434:
433:
429:
423:
420:
417:
413:
412:
400:
396:
390:
387:
386:
383:
366:
362:
358:
357:
349:
348:Africa portal
338:
336:
333:
329:
328:
324:
318:
315:
312:
308:
307:
295:
294:
284:
280:
279:
275:
274:
264:
260:
259:
256:
239:
235:
231:
227:
223:
222:
214:
213:Cities portal
203:
201:
198:
194:
193:
189:
185:
181:
176:
173:
170:
166:
165:
153:
149:
143:
140:
139:
136:
119:
115:
111:
110:
102:
91:
89:
86:
82:
81:
77:
71:
68:
65:
61:
60:
56:
52:
46:
38:
37:
27:
23:
18:
17:
1045:
998:
933:
930:Lead summary
910:
890:
875:
853:— Preceding
846:
827:
801:
793:
780:
738:
731:
725:
719:
713:
699:
693:
650:
649:
630:
626:
622:
588:
548:
483:
443:
394:
354:
291:
271:
219:
147:
107:
101:Egypt portal
51:WikiProjects
34:
749:article to
564:Middle Ages
511:Middle Ages
234:settlements
1064:Categories
1028:R Prazeres
1005:Lamise2006
977:R Prazeres
945:R Prazeres
917:R Prazeres
701:To-do list
627:photograph
459:Arab world
450:Arab world
422:Arab world
913:this edit
879:Nlivataye
859:ArabPride
759:nominated
273:core list
39:is rated
940:MOS:LEAD
867:contribs
855:unsigned
794:Archives
766:Egyptair
755:standard
751:featured
744:previous
638:included
632:EgyptAir
1048:Eehuiio
828:90 days
729:refresh
717:history
591:on the
486:on the
397:on the
150:on the
41:C-class
678:Upload
669:Flickr
370:Africa
361:Africa
317:Africa
243:Cities
226:cities
175:Cities
47:scale.
1001:Cairo
995:Names
934:(Re:
723:watch
705:Cairo
623:image
230:towns
123:Egypt
114:Egypt
70:Egypt
28:This
1052:talk
1042:Flag
1032:talk
1009:talk
981:talk
966:talk
949:talk
921:talk
898:talk
883:talk
863:talk
747:CotW
711:edit
703:for
659:The
478:High
180:Core
663:or
636:be
629:of
625:or
583:Mid
389:Top
142:Top
1066::
1054:)
1034:)
1026:.
1011:)
983:)
968:)
951:)
923:)
900:)
885:)
869:)
865:•
228:,
182:/
178::
1050:(
1030:(
1007:(
979:(
964:(
947:(
919:(
896:(
881:(
861:(
803:1
753:-
732:·
726:·
720:·
714:·
707::
595:.
490:.
401:.
296:.
276:.
154:.
53::
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.