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Feel it could do with some more wikilinks to some specialist terms. Tephra and caldera is only linked in the lead and ignimbrite is linked in the lead and then well after a few mentions. Even things like Country rock could benefit from a link. I see now I am at the end that you have added notes about
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I don't think we would want red links in the blurb, but that's easy to avoid. I don't think we have a policy on redlinks in the actual TFA. I avoid having red links in my own FAs, but that's my personal preference, not policy. Coincidentally, I was thinking of running this at TFA in January, do you
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Please consider simplifying the article as well as using a much less technical language which will allow a non-specialist to understand the salient points. There are too many wikilinks to technical terms which the user will need to understand before the sentences make sense. I suspect this article
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My over-riding impression of this article is that it has been written in a far too technical language. The editor(s) need to be congratulated for their enthusiasm in bringing their expertise in their subject to Knowledge, and this article should be a valuable addition to the encyclopedia. However,
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The use of English (Commonwealth or US) is not consistent - 'centimetres/metres/kilometres', 'centre(d)', 'vapour', 'coloured' vs 'gray', 'archeological', 'outside of', 'sulfide' for example. As the Commonwealth English is dominant, I'll edit for that. Maybe a banner here on the talk page saying
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This article has been nominated for Good Article status. As a newbie to the GA process, I did not want to initiate a formal review because I do not currently feel competent to do so, yet I wanted to help out by offering a few general observations which I hope may be of use. (Feel free to ignore
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has been written by a graduate or post-graduate geologist with a great expertise and enthusiasm for the subject, and that's fantastic. But for GA status it really needs to be written more simply, with inline citations being used to enable further information to be obtained.
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That's good to hear, although I do think each paragraph still could do with considerably more simplification. (It's never nice taking factual information away, but sometimes it can be rather over-power the main thrust of an article). Keep up the good work. Regards.
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I honestly thought the red links might hinder this article's appearance in the TFA (although apparently I still left some red links which did not have any counterpart in other Wikipedias). Should I restore them, though?
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Some of the surface geological features found in the Cerro Blanco area are amongst the most extreme on Earth. In particular, giant ripple marks can be observed here, and have been likened to some found on Mars. Known as
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Nah, no particular objections. I see the need to avoid redlinks in the blurb (although I don't care, personally), but if it isn't policy to avoid redlinks in the article, then I'd say we ought to restore them.
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whether the content is correct or not - and I am sure that it is correct - I simply found myself unable to retain understanding of the article's main points, and I never got to looking at the citations.
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If it helps, try imagining yourself as a journalist, writing a piece for the National Geographic magazine. Lots of knowledge - good communication - getting the story across - winning audiences.
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Don't quite follow. Is this what this was called, is it a common name for am event or is it something else. It doesn't seem to tie in with the start of the sentence
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Some more pictures would be nice, but I assume we don't have any. Found it a little hard to find it on the infobox picture. Wonder if it could be marked or circled.
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Also, pyroclastic flows could through narrow valleys reach the Bolsón de Fiambalá valley 50 kilometres (31 mi) south of Cerro Blanco, where many people live.
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there is no agreement whether the Robledo Caldera is the source and the volcano-tectonic depression northeast of Cerro Blanco has been proposed as a source
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The reason why I mention it is because it has the same name and is in a geographically correct position - a point reinforced by Penck 1920 (
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Yeah, it's confusing because many sources apparently are not aware of the existence of more than one caldera. I swapped "The volcano" in.
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In a number of places I found the style of English quite broken, and its extreme scientific complexity did not aid comprehension. e.g.
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Got most of these things; for the Martian ripple marks, would it be OK to mention" geologists" since the papers are written by them?
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which blew fine particles of sand and gravel into undulating fields of ripples, each ripple being spaced widely apart from the next.
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Aye, there aren't that many freely licenced files of the volcano as it's so remote. I'll see if I can annotate the image somehow.
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Every para should not start with the volcano name, variety is appreciated. Try something like "The caldera" at times.
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depressions, so this should be redundant. Also, an explanation of caldera in a few words would be really helpful.
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Seems good to me. Will wait to see if anyone else has any comments. If no one else does I will keep it listed.
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I've moved one of the notes up. Changed the linking for ignimbrite and added a link for country rock.
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include systems in the Pasto Ventura, Salar de Carachi Pampa and Volcán Negro Peinado areals.
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That's mostly b/c English is my second language. It's supposed to be Commonwealth English.
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Not quite sure what note k is getting at. Are you saying it is a different Cerro Blanco?
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while a role of the bedrock structure or the size of the material is controversial
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Excellent article, by the way - very interesting indeed. Thanks to all involved.
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One of the most spectacular aeolian landscapes of Earth is found at Cerro Blanco
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The Cerro Blanco area is also characterized by surface features including mega
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Nevado Tres Cruces lies in the west and Nevado Ojos del Salado lies southwest
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Cerro Blanco has been active for the last eight million years with several
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Is there a reason why a link to commons is wedged between two paragraphs?
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anything I say as I do not bring a Wikipedian GA expertise to the topic!)
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A major future eruption would put local communities to the south at risk.
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The body almost says the opposite, that the area is sparsely populated.
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Of Earth seems a bit unnecessary and makes this appear quite peacocky.
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A map would be nice. It gets confusing following all the similar names.
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where a field of large ripples covers an area of 8 square kilometres
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That's because "they" refers to the caldera walls, not the caldera.
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I dunno, there is apparently disagreement between two researchers.
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less well defined caldera to the south and with several lava domes.
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up to one metre and are separated by distances up to thirty metres
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Maybe the last sentence could be re-written something like this:
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have any issues with that? If so please let me know asap, thanks
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Okay I read through it and it seems pretty good. A few comments:
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is part of Cerro Blanco, but if it is then it should be added.
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Several duplicate links from now on, use this tool to fix them
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about this, since I don't know about the TFA redlinks either.
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and contribute to a wider array of articles like those on our
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A site southeast of the Robledo caldera is known as Robledo.
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we want to mention that pumice fell out from the volcano.
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Not all required in a Good Article and all pretty minor.
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This is sort of left hanging. Does it need some further
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But only one is mentioned so not sure how they fits in.
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Would like to help with this as well when we are at it.
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I've rewritten some of the problem bits you pointed out.
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I'll leave that to you, probably schedule for midmonth
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Probably an artifact of how that section was written.
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