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896: 428: 401: 531: 583: 945:- I've been against this for a while, because I was stuck in my mind thinking that it was still College of Charleston, but there's enough evidence here to show that I was wrong, and seeing them as just "Charleston" on the selection show today (hosted by CBS, the only major media outlet listed here as maybe still using "College of Charleston") put it completely over the edge. There's clearly enough references that have moved on from "College of Charleston" that we should do the same as well. - 438: 543: 177: 33: 814: 82: 64: 92: 1094:
disadvantage for claiming the simpler "Colorado" name. College of Charleston is the only Division I school with the Charleston name (discounting Charleston Southern which uses its directional qualifier). The "Charleston" version has been CofC's preferred branding for a decade now and has gradually permeated into news coverage to become the common name in my opinion.
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Considering the presence of two Miamis and two (three if you count Marymount) Loyolas in Division I, I don't think University of Charleston is much of an issue at this time. If the University of Charleston moves up to Division I, and sources start to revert *back* to College of Charleston, we can
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Boston College and Boston University don't have much choice as the two schools need to be distinguished from each other. Colorado College has to do it to differentiate itself from the University of Colorado, which goes by Colorado, and as a smaller Division III school, Colorado College is at a
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The College of Charleston is a unique name and part of the identity of CofC. “Charleston” and “Charleston Cougars” is fine when brevity is necessary. But the name of the college, and it’s affiliated athletics teams, is College of Charleston.
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to name a few. The question is which name is more prevalently used, and if both are equally used, how do we decide what the name is called; my reasoning is that their logo and athletics identity just say "Charleston" now.
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If anything, such a split argues that we use the school's official branding as the "tie-breaker," and its official branding is as the "Charleston Cougars," as you can see from a good sampling of
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2. The Post and Courier is the local newspaper, so it uses "College of" to disambiguate from other schools in the city (such as Charleston Southern, The Citadel, etc.)
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It's actually fairly common for athletic programs to use the full name of the institution in references like that - Syracuse, for example, previews as
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1. CBS Sports is rather inconsistent; on team pages it says "College of Charleston," on scoreboards and standings pages it just says "Charleston."
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4. The SI artcle you quoted was a specific article for the University of Kentucky, and the graphic brackets it liks to list them as "Charleston".
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It's worth noting that there is a University of Charleston in West Virginia which is Division II. It too tends to go by just "Charleston" as in
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use the longer name also. Other sources use both - often with the longer name on first reference, and the shorter name thereafter:
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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This one's a bit more unusual, because of how frequent "College of Charleston" is used even in an informal context.
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now, so let's get these (and all other subpages associated with Charleston Cougars athletics) moved to that name.
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5. Most of the books you quoted predate the CofC rebranding their athletic programs as "Charleston" in 2013.
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all refer to them as just the "Charleston Cougars." I think that's a pretty strong consensus that it's the
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on the official site. (it lists "College of Charleston" only when referring to the university itself).
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The name of the institution has never been part of the naming criteria for these articles. It's
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The college uses both. Search for the college's athletics program, and it will preview as
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newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for
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3. The Philadelphia Inquirer seems a random choice for a newspaper to list.
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section is incorrect and unsourced. Reliable data is required.
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Many sources use "College of Charleston Cougars" as well:
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