896:
428:
401:
531:
583:
945:- I've been against this for a while, because I was stuck in my mind thinking that it was still College of Charleston, but there's enough evidence here to show that I was wrong, and seeing them as just "Charleston" on the selection show today (hosted by CBS, the only major media outlet listed here as maybe still using "College of Charleston") put it completely over the edge. There's clearly enough references that have moved on from "College of Charleston" that we should do the same as well. -
438:
543:
177:
33:
814:
82:
64:
92:
1094:
disadvantage for claiming the simpler "Colorado" name. College of
Charleston is the only Division I school with the Charleston name (discounting Charleston Southern which uses its directional qualifier). The "Charleston" version has been CofC's preferred branding for a decade now and has gradually permeated into news coverage to become the common name in my opinion.
879:
1115:
Considering the presence of two Miamis and two (three if you count
Marymount) Loyolas in Division I, I don't think University of Charleston is much of an issue at this time. If the University of Charleston moves up to Division I, and sources start to revert *back* to College of Charleston, we can
1093:
Boston
College and Boston University don't have much choice as the two schools need to be distinguished from each other. Colorado College has to do it to differentiate itself from the University of Colorado, which goes by Colorado, and as a smaller Division III school, Colorado College is at a
964:
The
College of Charleston is a unique name and part of the identity of CofC. “Charleston” and “Charleston Cougars” is fine when brevity is necessary. But the name of the college, and it’s affiliated athletics teams, is College of Charleston.
1070:
to name a few. The question is which name is more prevalently used, and if both are equally used, how do we decide what the name is called; my reasoning is that their logo and athletics identity just say "Charleston" now.
1101:, so there is some potential for confusion, but it's significantly reduced by the two schools being in different divisions and I think sufficiently addressed with a hatnote as already exists on the Golden Eagles page.
204:
802:
858:
If anything, such a split argues that we use the school's official branding as the "tie-breaker," and its official branding is as the "Charleston
Cougars," as you can see from a good sampling of
798:
725:
200:
756:
716:
1210:
1058:- You know I support this, but just to play devil's advocate, there are some collegiate teams which use their University or College designation in their names, such as the
371:
846:
2. The Post and
Courier is the local newspaper, so it uses "College of" to disambiguate from other schools in the city (such as Charleston Southern, The Citadel, etc.)
647:
212:
822:
818:
305:
521:
729:
468:
720:
970:
895:
It's actually fairly common for athletic programs to use the full name of the institution in references like that - Syracuse, for example, previews as
485:
258:
17:
806:
689:
208:
843:
1. CBS Sports is rather inconsistent; on team pages it says "College of
Charleston," on scoreboards and standings pages it just says "Charleston."
1220:
852:
4. The SI artcle you quoted was a specific article for the
University of Kentucky, and the graphic brackets it liks to list them as "Charleston".
680:
561:
1097:
It's worth noting that there is a
University of Charleston in West Virginia which is Division II. It too tends to go by just "Charleston" as in
1205:
966:
601:
511:
1225:
1215:
1230:
1200:
632:
Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
475:
352:
the page of sport in each country from corresponding article in other language
Knowledge to English Knowledge which was marked in red.
273:* Fix project template and/or "to do list" Current version causes tables of content to be hidden unless/until reader chooses "show."
817:
use the longer name also. Other sources use both - often with the longer name on first reference, and the shorter name thereafter:
480:
1050:
698:
693:
810:
707:
463:
1195:
1190:
684:
556:
459:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
411:
1177:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
1167:
787:
451:
406:
196:
1150:
1110:
1080:
1037:
826:
333:
1125:
954:
933:
890:
871:
838:
278:
114:
1042:
This one's a bit more unusual, because of how frequent "College of Charleston" is used even in an informal context.
974:
268:
908:
664:
155:
996:
763:
now, so let's get these (and all other subpages associated with Charleston Cougars athletics) moved to that name.
113:-related topics on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
165:
160:
748:
150:
744:
614:
671:
855:
5. Most of the books you quoted predate the CofC rebranding their athletic programs as "Charleston" in 2013.
759:
all refer to them as just the "Charleston Cougars." I think that's a pretty strong consensus that it's the
298:
219:
189:
105:
69:
44:
702:
264:
921:
1063:
862:
on the official site. (it lists "College of Charleston" only when referring to the university itself).
740:
711:
660:
593:
623:
589:
1098:
1025:
636:
after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
1067:
1044:
32:
983:
The name of the institution has never been part of the naming criteria for these articles. It's
1163:
783:
1059:
633:
548:
320:
50:
752:
736:
1146:
1106:
1076:
1033:
1017:
1013:
867:
768:
760:
443:
242:
878:
The college uses both. Search for the college's athletics program, and it will preview as
8:
984:
348:
284:
1121:
992:
950:
929:
904:
886:
834:
675:
597:
356:
1159:
1009:
779:
255:(History section needs sources and accurate information - very vague at the moment.)
234:
1142:
1102:
1072:
1029:
863:
764:
327:
225:
newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for
427:
400:
1021:
656:
313:
290:
1184:
1117:
988:
946:
925:
900:
882:
830:
530:
456:
361:
97:
849:
3. The Philadelphia Inquirer seems a random choice for a newspaper to list.
455:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the
252:
226:
176:
880:"The official athletics website for the College of Charleston Cougars."
652:
271:
section is incorrect and unsourced. Reliable data is required.
726:
Template:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball navbox
287:(crucial article explaining the salaried undertaking of sports)
229:; independently assess some as A-class, regardless of GA status.
1028:, not "University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Tar Heels".
717:
Template:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball navbox
81:
63:
110:
920:- The graphic bracket in that SI link is from ESPN.com, but
899:, when that's obvously not the common athletic reference.
859:
797:
Many sources use "College of Charleston Cougars" as well:
1020:. This is actually how we format similar article titles:
306:
Category:Knowledge requested images of sports and games
588:
On 8 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be
730:
Template:Charleston Cougars women's basketball navbox
1211:
Start-Class United States articles of Low-importance
538:
433:
109:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
87:
721:
Template:Charleston Cougars men's basketball navbox
259:Category:American college sports infobox templates
1182:
829:. This kind of split argues for the status quo.
690:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball
205:Requested articles (Association football women)
681:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball
30:
622:The following is a closed discussion of a
213:Requested articles (Estonian sportspeople)
184:Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
987:, not "Ohio State University Buckeyes." -
201:Requested articles (Association football)
14:
1221:Low-importance South Carolina articles
1183:
1024:, not "University of Florida Gators";
699:College of Charleston Cougars baseball
245:(this should-be-major article is in a
1206:Low-importance United States articles
708:College of Charleston Cougars sailing
694:Charleston Cougars women's basketball
641:The result of the move request was:
577:
449:This article is within the scope of
103:This article is within the scope of
26:
1226:WikiProject South Carolina articles
1216:Start-Class South Carolina articles
1141:per my comments immediately above.
685:Charleston Cougars men's basketball
496:Knowledge:WikiProject United States
364:) sports to be part of this project
261:to use same font size and spacing.
49:It is of interest to the following
24:
1231:WikiProject United States articles
1201:Start-Class United States articles
924:does call them just "Charleston."
529:
499:Template:WikiProject United States
334:List of world sports championships
25:
18:Talk:College of Charleston Cougars
1242:
209:Requested articles (Motor sports)
1173:The discussion above is closed.
581:
541:
436:
426:
399:
175:
90:
80:
62:
31:
516:This article has been rated as
648:closed by non-admin page mover
13:
1:
672:College of Charleston Cougars
594:College of Charleston Cougars
554:This article is supported by
117:and see a list of open tasks.
771:) 12:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
123:Knowledge:WikiProject Sports
7:
1196:WikiProject Sports articles
1191:Start-Class sports articles
703:Charleston Cougars baseball
615:Requested move 8 March 2023
265:Sport in the United Kingdom
197:Requested articles (Sports)
126:Template:WikiProject Sports
10:
1247:
1168:22:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
1151:03:39, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
1126:08:47, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
1111:03:39, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
1081:00:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
1064:Boston University Terriers
1051:00:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
1038:22:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
997:18:18, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
975:02:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
955:05:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
934:04:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
909:20:04, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
897:Syracuse University Orange
891:20:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
788:19:58, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
712:Charleston Cougars sailing
665:10:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
557:WikiProject South Carolina
522:project's importance scale
872:21:17, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
839:18:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
807:The Philadelphia Inquirer
537:
515:
452:WikiProject United States
421:
137:
75:
57:
1175:Please do not modify it.
1099:Charleston Golden Eagles
1026:North Carolina Tar Heels
629:Please do not modify it.
457:United States of America
1068:Colorado College Tigers
534:
502:United States articles
293:(currently a sub-stub)
39:This article is rated
1060:Boston College Eagles
823:College of Charleston
549:South Carolina portal
533:
321:Category:Sports stubs
1158:move to Charleston.
922:the SI.com team page
803:The Post and Courier
444:United States portal
372:requests for comment
360:: Gather all (major/
319:work on articles in
304:for pages listed in
243:Sport governing body
985:Ohio State Buckeyes
827:The Washington Post
470:Articles Requested!
308:and sub-categories.
285:Professional sports
811:Sports Illustrated
676:Charleston Cougars
598:Charleston Cougars
535:
106:WikiProject Sports
45:content assessment
790:
651:
612:
611:
576:
575:
572:
571:
568:
567:
394:
393:
390:
389:
386:
385:
382:
381:
16:(Redirected from
1238:
1116:always revisit.
1047:
772:
753:Associated Press
645:
631:
600:. The result of
585:
584:
578:
551:
546:
545:
544:
504:
503:
500:
497:
494:
446:
441:
440:
439:
430:
423:
422:
417:
414:
403:
396:
395:
190:Article requests
179:
172:
171:
139:
138:
131:
130:
127:
124:
121:
100:
95:
94:
93:
84:
77:
76:
66:
59:
58:
42:
36:
35:
27:
21:
1246:
1245:
1241:
1240:
1239:
1237:
1236:
1235:
1181:
1180:
1179:
1178:
1045:
819:Bleacher Report
627:
617:
582:
547:
542:
540:
501:
498:
495:
492:
491:
490:
476:Become a Member
442:
437:
435:
415:
409:
378:
170:
129:sports articles
128:
125:
122:
119:
118:
96:
91:
89:
43:on Knowledge's
40:
23:
22:
15:
12:
11:
5:
1244:
1234:
1233:
1228:
1223:
1218:
1213:
1208:
1203:
1198:
1193:
1172:
1171:
1170:
1153:
1135:
1134:
1133:
1132:
1131:
1130:
1129:
1128:
1095:
1086:
1085:
1084:
1083:
1053:
1022:Florida Gators
1002:
1001:
1000:
999:
978:
977:
958:
957:
940:
939:
938:
937:
936:
915:
914:
913:
912:
911:
856:
853:
850:
847:
844:
733:
732:
723:
714:
705:
696:
687:
678:
668:
639:
638:
624:requested move
618:
616:
613:
610:
609:
602:the discussion
586:
574:
573:
570:
569:
566:
565:
562:Low-importance
553:
552:
536:
526:
525:
518:Low-importance
514:
508:
507:
505:
489:
488:
483:
478:
473:
466:
464:Template Usage
460:
448:
447:
431:
419:
418:
416:Low‑importance
412:South Carolina
404:
392:
391:
388:
387:
384:
383:
380:
379:
377:
376:
375:
374:
365:
353:
344:
336:
323:
309:
294:
291:Sport industry
288:
274:
272:
262:
257:* Standardize
256:
250:
240:
230:
215:
211:
207:
203:
199:
195:
183:
181:
180:
169:
168:
163:
158:
153:
147:
144:
143:
135:
134:
132:
115:the discussion
102:
101:
85:
73:
72:
67:
55:
54:
48:
37:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1243:
1232:
1229:
1227:
1224:
1222:
1219:
1217:
1214:
1212:
1209:
1207:
1204:
1202:
1199:
1197:
1194:
1192:
1189:
1188:
1186:
1176:
1169:
1165:
1161:
1157:
1154:
1152:
1148:
1144:
1140:
1137:
1136:
1127:
1123:
1119:
1114:
1113:
1112:
1108:
1104:
1100:
1096:
1092:
1091:
1090:
1089:
1088:
1087:
1082:
1078:
1074:
1069:
1065:
1061:
1057:
1054:
1052:
1049:
1048:
1041:
1040:
1039:
1035:
1031:
1027:
1023:
1019:
1018:WP:CONSISTENT
1015:
1014:WP:COMMONNAME
1011:
1007:
1004:
1003:
998:
994:
990:
986:
982:
981:
980:
979:
976:
972:
968:
963:
960:
959:
956:
952:
948:
944:
941:
935:
931:
927:
923:
919:
916:
910:
906:
902:
898:
894:
893:
892:
888:
884:
881:
877:
876:
875:
874:
873:
869:
865:
861:
857:
854:
851:
848:
845:
842:
841:
840:
836:
832:
828:
824:
820:
816:
815:Lots of books
812:
808:
804:
800:
796:
793:
792:
791:
789:
785:
781:
778:
777:
770:
766:
762:
761:WP:COMMONNAME
758:
754:
750:
746:
742:
738:
737:Yahoo! Sports
731:
727:
724:
722:
718:
715:
713:
709:
706:
704:
700:
697:
695:
691:
688:
686:
682:
679:
677:
673:
670:
669:
667:
666:
662:
658:
654:
649:
644:
637:
635:
630:
625:
620:
619:
607:
603:
599:
595:
591:
587:
580:
579:
563:
560:(assessed as
559:
558:
550:
539:
532:
528:
527:
523:
519:
513:
510:
509:
506:
493:United States
487:
484:
482:
479:
477:
474:
472:
471:
467:
465:
462:
461:
458:
454:
453:
445:
434:
432:
429:
425:
424:
420:
413:
408:
407:United States
405:
402:
398:
397:
373:
369:
366:
363:
359:
358:
354:
351:
350:
346:
345:
343:
341:
337:
335:
332:
330:
329:
324:
322:
318:
316:
315:
310:
307:
303:
301:
300:
295:
292:
286:
283:
281:
280:
275:
270:
266:
260:
254:
248:
244:
239:
237:
236:
231:
228:
224:
222:
221:
216:
214:
210:
206:
202:
198:
194:
192:
191:
186:
185:
182:
178:
174:
173:
167:
164:
162:
159:
157:
154:
152:
149:
148:
146:
145:
141:
140:
136:
133:
116:
112:
108:
107:
99:
98:Sports portal
88:
86:
83:
79:
78:
74:
71:
68:
65:
61:
60:
56:
52:
46:
38:
34:
29:
28:
19:
1174:
1160:SportsGuy789
1155:
1138:
1055:
1043:
1005:
961:
942:
917:
794:
780:Adumbrativus
775:
774:
734:
642:
640:
628:
621:
605:
555:
517:
481:Project Talk
469:
450:
367:
355:
347:
339:
338:
326:
325:
312:
311:
297:
296:
277:
276:
253:Field hockey
246:
233:
232:
218:
217:
188:
187:
104:
51:WikiProjects
634:move review
142:To-do list:
41:Start-class
1185:Categories
1143:WildCowboy
1103:WildCowboy
1073:Tom Danson
1030:Rreagan007
1010:WP:CONCISE
864:Tom Danson
799:CBS Sports
776:Relisting.
765:Tom Danson
745:NBC Sports
741:Fox Sports
357:Categorize
269:Popularity
860:headlines
757:USA Today
370:: answer
349:Translate
1118:fuzzy510
989:fuzzy510
947:fuzzy510
926:fuzzy510
901:fuzzy510
883:Dohn joe
831:Dohn joe
661:contribs
247:shameful
1156:Support
1139:Support
1056:Comment
1006:Support
967:Smydauf
943:Support
918:Comment
795:Oppose.
520:on the
362:olympic
249:state)
235:Cleanup
156:history
1046:O.N.R.
962:Oppose
751:, the
643:moved.
486:Alerts
328:Update
279:Expand
267:- the
220:Assess
120:Sports
70:Sports
47:scale.
606:moved
592:from
590:moved
340:Other
314:Stubs
299:Photo
166:purge
161:watch
111:sport
1164:talk
1147:talk
1122:talk
1107:talk
1077:talk
1066:and
1034:talk
1016:and
1008:per
993:talk
971:talk
951:talk
930:talk
905:talk
887:talk
868:talk
835:talk
784:talk
769:talk
755:and
749:ESPN
657:talk
653:Elli
604:was
368:RfCs
151:edit
596:to
512:Low
1187::
1166:)
1149:)
1124:)
1109:)
1079:)
1062:,
1036:)
1012:,
995:)
973:)
953:)
932:)
907:)
889:)
870:)
837:)
825:;
821:;
813:.
809:;
805:;
801:;
786:)
773:—
747:,
743:,
739:,
735:–
728:→
719:→
710:→
701:→
692:→
683:→
674:→
663:)
659:|
626:.
564:).
410::
289:*
263:*
251:*
241:*
227:GA
1162:(
1145:(
1120:(
1105:(
1075:(
1032:(
991:(
969:(
949:(
928:(
903:(
885:(
866:(
833:(
782:(
767:(
655:(
650:)
646:(
608:.
524:.
342::
331::
317::
302::
282::
238::
223::
193::
53::
20:)
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.