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80: 53: 148: 172: 225: 204: 22: 654:...". The the former definition does not allow the value 2288 to be encoded: (255 * 8) + 31 = 2071, while the latter definition does: (255 + 31) * 8 = 2288. Also, using the latter definition causes my program that interprets EDID info from a real display to produce much more sensible values of x and y resolution. 964:
EDID is a subsection of CEA-861, which in itself is a much bigger animal that warrants being explained as HDMI and DVI signaling is based on this standard. The standard was also derived from traditional analogue video signalling, so it has a very important and valuable history in the world of video
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The article states, "Many Wide XGA panels do not advertise their native resolution, instead offering only a resolution of 1280Ă—768." 1280x768 is a 5:3 aspect ratio. It appears from the EDID Data Format that the only supported aspect ratios are: 16:10, 4:3, 5:4, and 16:9. How do they "offer"
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Year of manufacture, less 1980. (1980–2235). If week=255, it is the model year instead. In my example this Byte contains 0x16 which the ST tool says indicates 2012, but if I follow this articles algorithm (0d1980 + 0x16 = 0d2002) I come up with the year 2002.
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The article says that bytes 8-9 of EDID 1.3 data carry a three-letter manufacturer ID assigned by Microsoft. It appears that these IDs are nowadays assigned by UEFI Forum instead. I have not found a secondary source to prove this change; only the following:
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The PCB bits part is true, and the previous is true for normal compressed bitstreams, but not for High Bit-Rate Audio (HBRA) bitstreams like Dolby TrueHD (MLP) or DTS-HD, at least for those formats it is vendor specific. Can anyone elaborate more on this?
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According to Brian Markwalter, senior vice president, research and standards, CEA, -864F "includes a number of noteworthy enhancements, including support for several new Ultra HD and widescreen video formats and additional colorimetry schemes."
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Seems quite confusing to match the format to the example given. Is "10-11: Product ID Code (little endian)" the "Monitor ID EPID775"? And how do you jump from a 2-byte "08-09: Manufacturer ID" to "Monitor Manufacturer: Company Name Envision,
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In item 21 where it says "Maximum Horizontal Image Size (in millimetre). Multiply by 10 for actual value." wouldn't it sound a little less silly to say "Maximum Horizontal Image Size (in centimetre)" ? The same goes for item 22.
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Byte 64 :: Encoded value should either be 0x000A or 0x200. When reading byte 64, the value returned is 0xA00 (rather than 0x000A) - Is reading of byte 64 just a straightforward extraction of 2 bytes?
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In the Features bitmap (byte 17) of the "EDID Detailed Timing Descriptor", bits 6-5 say "Stereo mode: 00=No stereo; other values depend on bit 0", but bit 0 says "2-way line-interleaved stereo, if
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panels the nearest resolution expressible in the EDID syntax is 1360Ă—765 pixels. Specifying 1368 pixels as the screen width would yield an unnatural screen height of 769.5 pixels."
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UEFI Forum says ACPI uses PNP IDs that consist of a 3-letter vendor ID and a 16-bit product ID, and they can assign the vendor ID; they don't explicitly mention EDID though:
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Byte 17: week=255 to indicate model year instead of production (this is not allowed in v1.3) Byte 24: Display type. The introduction of digital variant came about in v1.4
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In the "EDID 1.3 data format" section there are a couple of edits that change the structure to EDID v1.4 without changing the title and reference. Among others:
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Furthermore I'd suggest to give the hex form of the given example along with its translation for developers to check if there implementations do right.
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There is not yet any comprehensive coverage of CEA-861 on Knowledge. The thing to do to improve this would be to replace the current redirect with a
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I just checked the EDID 1.3 standard, release A, revision 1, and on page 12 it says clearly that "Value stored = (Year of manufacture - 1990)". --
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I am using the ST EDID Editor v1.5.1.0 at work and I find a major discrepencay is how the year of manufacture is stored. Byte 17 --: -->
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image, the EDID data must be ignored by the display driver. Special programs are available to override the EDID data; PowerStrip for
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Thus I think the correct line would be: Year of manufacture, less 1990. (1990–2245). If week=255, it is the model year instead.
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EDID is used by all digital displays which use HDMI/DVI connection (almost all TV sets today). This fact seems to be omitted.
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No, they are overriding the graphics card driver limitations. The EDID data is often present in the aforementioned DTD field.
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For heavens sake, wouldn't "According to the CEA" be enough for this referenced entry? Was edit made by Mr. Markwalter?
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the same vendor asking for a PNP ID on another Microsoft forum; someone from Microsoft referred them to the UEFI Forum:
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In the text it says: "For all other sound formats, bits 7..0 designate the maximium supported bitrate divided by 8kHz."
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signaling. The fact that CEA-861 redirects to EDID, which is a small sliver of the CEA-861 standard, is kinda crazy.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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In EDID, the set of RGB-primaries along with white point is encoded with chromaticities only, i. e. 4
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Is there some way to include later extensions to the EDID Standard such as Reference for 1.2 and 1.3
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Some HDMI accessories such as HDMI splitters specify an "EDID Duration" such as 6s. What is this? --
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In the figure "EDID structure, version 1.3", byte 0 of bytes 38-53 is described as "x resolution,
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Converting a full set of chromaticities (xy for RGB+W) to a full set of triplets (Yxy/XYZ)
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Encoding of "x resolution" in "Standard Timing Information" described incorrectly?
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are not 00." Should the bit 0 description be "2-way line-interleaved stereo, if
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https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn610887(v=vs.85).aspx
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manufacturer IDs or vendor IDs now assigned by UEFI Forum rather than Microsoft
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Not accurate at all. EDIDs go down to single pixels in their DTD fields.
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in "Limitations: "A major limitation of EDID is that it cannot express the
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This does not agree with the article, which claims 3.0 appeared in 1997.
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But who is right? This article or the ST EDID Editor's implementation?
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Microsoft documentation says PNP IDs are requested through UEFI.org:
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display must thus be a multiple of 16Ă—9 pixels. For 1366Ă—768 pixel
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Inconsistency in Features bitmap of Detailed Timing Descriptor?
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This is only true in the simple timing descriptor fields.
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a monitor vendor asking for a PNP ID on a Microsoft forum:
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Why so specific about computer displays and graphics cards?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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The first version of EDID, 1.0, was produced in August
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