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But I notice that the current text is uncited, which is a problem in itself! I wonder if you have misread what it is trying to say because it doesn't say it very well. I believe that what it is trying to say is that a party with geographically concentrated support (PQ, SNP) get a "disproportionate"
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not really. FPTP is specifically the single winner plurality. if it wasn't a more common name than SMP (single-member plurality), this article should still exist under that name, they have very different implications. Also, first-past-the-post is a misleading name, but it still is "first" past the
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