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of the other fi nds from Boma, have been discussed in detail by Lin Ying (2008). She interpreted them as objects produced in the Turkic Empire of
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It's not like that. Word Turkic or Turk is already an umbrella term for Turkic peoples. Iranian page also uses the umbrella term
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Finnish researcher on Turkish history specifically on ancient Turkish roots. I have learned to read Orkun scripts from books of Mehmet Kömen, Turgay Tüfekçioğlu, Kazım Mirşan and ofcourse from my study at Istanbul University. since I already knew Turkish from my education at
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Hello, I apologize for late reply. Peter B. Golden hypothesized that term "Gokturks" may have originally meant "celestial Turks" or "blue Turks" in reference to a particular Turkic tribe that had a reputation for their celestial or heavenly connections.may have and he claims that it later came to be
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My honest suggestions are Old Turks, Ancient Turks, Kok Turks or simply Turks. These would be much more accurate than Gok-turk. As contemporary cultural and political sensitivities have evolved, scholars have become more aware of the potential implications of using certain historical terms, and more
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And predictably, this source contains the kind of erroneous information that one would expect from these kinds of standards. I would just like to note that this source does not even say that this mask is of Göktürk origin or from the Türkic empire. Quite the opposite, it quotes a researcher who says
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Ethnohistorical term "Gokturks" has been the subject of academic debate and discussion in various literature since 20th cent. "Gokturks" have been conducted by scholars in various fields, including history, anthropology, linguistics, and archaeology. This use preferred in 18th for not confusing
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Yet, as we would expect from a low quality source, this is unlikely, because this source also got the dating of the mask awfully wrong. This mask is not from the 5th-6th centuries CE. Every source I have seen places the dates of the golden masks to within the 1-5th centuries CE. From
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Thus this mask actually pre-dates the First Türkic
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we call them "Öksüz' meaning "without ök" without a creator. I you want you should message me from instagram @elturcos27 I can prove everything to you. The only correct way to read Orkun is through the translations of Kazım Mirşan.
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You make an interesting point, however I would like to point out that the readings of many Turkic letters are generally pretty inconsistent and the letter 𐰜 can mean not just ök and ük, but also kö, kü, and k.
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Gokturks weren't called themselves Gokturk. So, why should use a name coined by 18th cent. scholarship? Ancient Turks, Turuks or Turks or even Tujue would be a better terminology merging Turkish Gok + Turk.
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