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that do that, where the protagonist usually has a more profound relationship with, at least, the character they end up with—and also seems to be largely a criticism in Western journalism about the genre (supported by the examples given), which the text does not clarify. There were also some serious issues with the parts describing same-sex harems that I fixed: an unregistered user had edited out a bunch of language relating to "LGBT" under the, frankly, completely untrue assertion that that's a completely unknown concept in the anime industry. They instead replaced it with language that reinforces the heteronormativity the section was originally intended to criticize — like using "traditional" to mean "cis and heterosexual." Along with this being particularly strange in a Japanese cultural context (where there were cultural traditions around same-sex relationships that predate Western contact), that is not an unbiased framing. I would actually agree that "LGBT" isn't the best term here considering that it refers more to personal identity than just the gender dynamics of fictional romances where characters usually don't use specific labels; however, it is possible to use different language that is more neutral, like "same-sex" or "same-gender" or "non-heterosexual," without reifying the idea of heterosexuality as the only "normal, traditional" relationships.
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stating that Progressivism is entering Anime and that is a downright falsehood. Titles for the "diverse" nature (or as they're called Reverse Harem) include Ouran HS Host Club, Fruits Basket, Uta No Prince Sama Maji love 2000%, Hana Yori Dongo, Dance With Devils. There are plenty more but the idea that this is a new thing is definitely wrong and should be removed from the page
813:) — there is probably some interesting stuff to examine here about Japanese cultural perception of Middle-Eastern cultures, or something along those lines. That is what I came to this to see if it answered, but there is nothing discussing the origins of the term's application to anime and video games. Contrast this with, say, the article on 820:
In terms of NPOV, I agree with previous entries that the "criticism/controversy" section could use some help there, and it's good that it has sources but could use some better ones as well. It also seems to be unhelpfully conflating issues with video games that use dating sim/harem elements and anime
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I also am not sure it is accurate to describe harem anime as polyamorous. Most harem and reverse-harem present all the different love interests as options, but the protagonist ultimately ends up with just one of them in the end. The term polyamory refers to simultaneous romantic/sexual relationships
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There appear to be multiple historic edits and reversions to this page made to remove references to same-sex couples and transgender or cross-dressing characters, frequently coming from anonymous IPs. These edits are typically low-effort, and also commonly restore or introduce significant errors in
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There's some good info in this article, but it's pretty basic and there are some significant issues with both NPOV and also just missing the kind of info that people would likely come to the article to look up. For instance, how did "harem" specifically become the term for this kind of anime? It's
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Agreed -- there appears to be a user (or users) who continue to revert the page to remove references to same-sex relationships, as well as cross-dressing and transgender characters. May request that page be locked to only allow edits from logged-in users, as many of these changes and reversions
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Harem Anime have been around for a long time now and there has never been a lack of what the second paragraph of the introduction has. There have always been Harem Anime surrounding men and there have always been Trans characters in them, saying things like removing gender identity seems to be
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What is the point of a genre page with no list of shows. I saw we get a list together or just do away with the page. Shows like Hayate the Combat Butler are listed as harems on respected site. is it okay to start a list if you use things like that, if not then this page serves no purpose.
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Yes, yes that's true, but listing all Harem genre anime here only make this article looks bad, for the purpose of making an example of Harem genre anime, only listing some of them are good enough. Listing them all? Nope, that would only destroying this article. If you want to make anime
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I've tried to revamp the article by cleaning up a lot of the grammar mistakes and non-NPOV sections. Additionally, you're absolutely correct that harem works don't universally (or even normally) appear polyamorous per se; I've updated the article to be more specific on that front.
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Lastly, there were some significant grammar issues I fixed in that section that seemed to come from editors who are not familiar with English-language grammar, and there may be similar issues in other parts of the article.
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content or form; indeed, the last one claimed it was restoring a "version that isn't plagued with politicised woke ideology." This article may need to be locked to anonymous IP edits to prevent vandalism or violations of
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As further evidence to support this point, the Japanese page does not make the asinine claim that Love Hina is an especially noteworthy example of the genre.
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with multiple people, and explicitly rejects the idea that you need to "choose one." So I think that terminology and phrasing is misleading.
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interesting to me that anime would use a term for another society's version of something that existed in its own form in Japanese history (
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recommendation it's better to do that on Anime website, but not on Encyclopedia.--
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Hi Farix, is the following link qualified as a good third-party source?
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both predate Love Hina, as do a few other series included in
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