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This isn't a history of Sikhism, it's a series of short biographies of the Gurus. How did Sikhism grow from the following of one man to a numerous enough religion to form the basis of an empire? When did this happen? Was it an ongoing process, or is it particularly associated with a specific period?
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The following sentence ends bizarrely, as if to imply that there is some form of Hindu Islam: "During the Mughal rule of India (1556–1707), Sikhism was in conflict with the Mughal empire laws, while it cherished saints from Hinduism Islam". I am no expert, but after a quick search on the web I think
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Well it wasn't just Hindus who Kabir was revered by, I can change this to Hindus, Muslims and other faiths if there is a concensus for it. You are quoting as if the word Hindu is not mentioned and "those of different faiths" is used to describe any non-Sikhs mentioned in the article, that is not the
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Does anyone have background on the titles of the eras? In particular, why "Golden Age" for (1849–1919 CE) and "Dark Ages" for (1978-Present CE). Do we feel those are the most accurate descriptions for these time periods? Are these terms being used in either academic literature or are they commonly
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Just pointing out that the info. regarding the Sikhs' conditions during the Indian Partition period seems incomplete to me because it does not say much about what conditions the Sikhs were going through at the time? What issues were faced by the Sikh leaders at the time? etc. So those who may know
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To stop the spread of Sikhism, they started classifying it as a sect of Hinduism. They claim that he Gurus were Vishnu and Shiva worshippers to continue to colonise the Sikh homeland of the Punjab. The garb of tolerance is just another way to conceal the cult's secret plans of worldwide expansion
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Wait, wait... we were reading about "Bhai Amar Das", and now the subject has changed without any transition to "Bhai Sahib". I'm unfamiliar with the words "Bhai" and "Sahib", so I go look up their definitions elsewhere. I learn they are both honorifics, not personal names, so "Bhai Sahib" can be
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Would someone who understands the religious and cultural nuances please create a similar transition in the "Guru Amar Das" section? It currently leads to confusion unless one is already well versed in specific details of both Indian English and Sikh traditions of epithetical periphrasis. An
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This article lacks the history of Sikhism post the creation of Khalsa. There is no mention of the Akali Dal movement, British Empire Rule over Punjab and its effects on the Sikh history, or any mention up to the present day. This article does not embody the entire history of
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They seem to have been added in mid-December 2020 along with a lot of other "POV" material that has now been deleted (e.g. "There are barely any true Khalsa Sikhs who fight for Justice in the world except the Sikhs in Canada, United Kingdom and United States of America",
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Still a bit confusing, but now that I know "Bhai Sahib" refers to "Amar Das", I can connect the dots by context. I think a similar sentence could be useful in the very first paragraph of this section, except replace "Bhai Sahib" with "Amar Das".
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Well no Christians were around in medieval India so that would be false and Muslims only consider Mohammad as their final Prophet, so to be correct I used Sufis as some but NOT all Sufis recognise Kabir as a Saint.
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The term "Sikh" was used even in the times of guru arjan dev ji u can read gurubani Guru Gobind Singh ji formulated and made more improvements to it the word sikh was present from first sikh guru.
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The term sikhism was coined by first guru, Guru Nanak Dev Ji. It is evident in the holy scripture of sikhism, Guru Granth Sahib. The term khalsa was coined by the tenth guru, Guru Gobind Singh ji.
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I would like to request to edit the article due to there being a discrepancy amongst some parts of it. Mostly regarding the information within the article that has to edited properly.
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Fix section title names. Golden Age and Post Golden Age are incorrect and insensitive section titles. Replace it with Post Empire Years and Post British Raj Years.
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The article is as usual pretty anti-Hindu, .mI will ask some senior administrator of Knowledge to look deeper into some biased 'contributors' Thanks, D.Green
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anything about the Sikhs' conditions during the Indian Partition scenario if could please fill the void left by incomplete info. on the matter, thank you.
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What were the reasons for this growth? This article seriously needs to be fleshed out with some solid historical material before it matches its title.
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understood as an epithet for "Bhai Amar Das". This is a lot of work for even native speakers of English that are unfamiliar with Indian English.
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encyclopedic entry should assume the reader has minimal background in the subject. No disrespect is intended. Thank you for your attention.
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Thank you for bringing this up, I will look into the prose of the article to ensure it is understandable to a larger audience of readers.
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This entire page needs to be revised due to the lack of Guru Ram Dass, and comments on the page which say "Where is Guru Ram Dass"
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The following section should be removed. I does not have any source material cited and seems to be based on an opinion only.
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As well as this, there is writing which lacks any citation and is written very informally, as if from the hand of a child.
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In the "Guru Amar Das" section, paragraph 2, the narrative suddenly shifts, like this:
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