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But if we do that then we'd have the same problem s before. Koraidon and
Miraidon are not just Legendary Pokemon they are both Legendary and Paradox Pokemon. Like what if this happens again? How do we know which category takes priority. If we don't do stripes, I think we should do away with colors
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This has been inevitable for a long time. I think the table still works now, depending on screensize (is there a guideline of table width limits we could refer to?), but it should almost certainly be split in some way once gen 10 happens. I just hope it will look alright...
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Oh, I've been interpreting the word "split" completely differently! I was thinking simply having two separate tables on the same page. This is SilverTiger12's suggestion, after all. I don't think splitting the lists into two separate articles is a good idea at all.
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725:Donkey Kong
617:Screen Rant
531:participant
460:participant
380:Summary of
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365:Summary of
348:peer review
257:Video games
248:video games
187:Video games
2445:Categories
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1459:discussion
1172:assessment
961:River Raid
678:The Sims 4
641:discussion
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440:Cue Club 2
384:open tasks
196:Characters
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1582:Archive 4
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1570:Archive 2
1565:Archive 1
1204:cover art
1198:infoboxes
839:Ether One
787:Justin Yu
690:Smash Hit
453:GeneRally
350:which is
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158:FL-class
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1294:Pokémon
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414:vg talk
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1743:Beland
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1031:Meltan
419:alerts
164:scale.
87:Result
2280:gen 1
1558:Index
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