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572:. It's just not significant enough to warrant the trouble, if it was a ministry in an English speaking country then you'd have a pretty good argument, but it seems like WP policy is to avoid squabbles like this and just let the original title stick unless there is a good reason. There's a lot of WP articles we could spend our time arguing over typography or regional-spelling in the title but I think doing so would be one of the least productive uses of an editor's time, best to just let it ride.
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699:, while it would be nice to be consistent on our part, these are all formal entities not descriptive titles, and when unsure what spelling to use, best keep the spelling the council themselves use. If they themselves are inconsistent, it is not our role to correct them but show it. Additionally, there is no established
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Russiafy Ukrainian articles. In my view this guy should be banned from wikipedia cause he is only here to push a political agenda. Let's have a propper discussion first and not let clowns like Dilas 25
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