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this article is new to me today -- as a US Citizen I was surprised to see in the official diocese list "The
Metropolitan of the Archdiocese of North America, which includes: The Suffragan Holy Diocese of Alexandria and all Virginia, United States" .. Is this true ? I will read more now, but I am not
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The previous version of this article identified this church as part of the
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As a matter of neutrality and tone, the description includes assertions of primacy and historical continuity which are disputed with other
Christian churches. I think the head of the Greek (or Eastern) Orthodox church of Alexandria would make similar claims.
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This article has no reliable source. To a Wiki reader, an article with no valid sources is basically fiction. Please source this article with reliable sources. There must be some books in
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The last sentences is enigmatic at best. Because of what split? The
Chalcedonic Council "separation"? The leadership of "this" church (presumably the Alexandrian Orthodox?) is not part of "this" system? What system? Secular recognition? Pentarchy?
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This article is something of a mess. I'm considering adding a POV tag or something as a warning. I will try to address some of the problems I see, though I'm not an expert on the very complicated theological and historical disputes which exist.
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The historical continuity of this Church and the succession of its bishops is a matter of dispute with other
Christian churches, so I tried to make it more neutral, imitating the style in the similar article for the Roman Catholic pope.
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Sorry for the accidental deletion of this page. This is not vandalism. I fixed right away. When I made an edit to the first paragraph, it accidentily deleted 90% of the page, but I fixed it. Again, I apologize.
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I would have thought one of the very first things in this article would be a link to the current holder of this office. Instead, I can't seem to find who the current Coptic Pope is anywhere.
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To Mwheatley1990: It basically means that the Coptic Pope is the leader of the Coptic Church, which is compromised of 18,000,000 in Egypt and 16,000,000 worldwide. Overall,
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As a matter of style, this description is already listed as his official title in the next section of the article, so it seems redundant here.
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1. The shortened "Pope of Alexandria" in the lead paragraph isn't the actual title for this office, so I removed it.
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