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little about what we are reading about. Aside from the ambiguity, the rest of the sentence is extremely confusing as well. Although I am someone who has studied probability not only for my college degree, but also on my own to further my knowledge, I still had to read that sentence over and over again to understand what the writer meant. I would not consider probability an attitude of mind, because this simply does not make sense. The “proposition of interest” and “attitude of mind” are unnecessary and confusing when defining probability. Probability is the analysis of the outcome of an uncertain event. The given Knowledge definition gives several examples of what probability is, rather than defining it. It states that, “The proposition of interest is usually of the form…” This is not only an example instead of a definition, but it is an extremely poor example. The word usually is very vague, leading the reader to believe that the given example does not apply to probability all of the time. The definition also ends with probability in an applied sense. But what does that really mean? Because there are no other examples of another sense that probability applies to, this makes the definition unclear. The definition then goes on the describe probability in mathematical terms using the range between 0 and 1. For anyone who has not dealt with probability in a mathematical sense, this definition most likely makes little sense. The way it is written is very vague, but what it is trying to say is that there is a range of outcomes in probability starting from 0 (the event will definitely not occur), to 1 (the event will definitely occur). These ranges are also often written in percent form, 0% to 100%. I believe that by adding the fact that these numbers are percentages, the numbers already start to make a more sense and become more valid. The range between these numbers is the percent of likeliness of an outcome. While this definition gave many examples that do not help the reader to further understand probability, I would perhaps include one common example when dealing with the mathematical sense, even though definitions should not include examples. For example, the probability of a fair coin landing heads after it is tossed is .5, or 50%. This is because there are two possible outcomes, heads or tails, and both are equally likely. If the coin had been unfair with heads on both sides, the probability of landing heads would be 1, or 100%, since there are no other possible outcomes. As stated in the original definition, “The higher the probability of an event, the more certain we are that the event will occur.”
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is in a dynamic equilibrium in which all events lead from prior events in a never-ending chain. Consequently, if you buy his argument which I do, then the probability of anything occuring is 0 or 1. This leads me to state that probability does not apply to the universe but to the observer who wants to predict the future with limited data. For instance, weather forecasters are typically right 50% of the time. Whatever data they use gives them a 50% PROBABILITY of being correct. If they knew everything there is to know their predictions would always be 100% correct. Anyway, another interpretation of probability has nothing to do with 'events' in the world, and everything to do with the person attempting to predict future events. Cheers. --
237:, and "0" to mean "impossibility", by definition, without taking any philosophical position on what those terms mean. The ordinary interpretation of those terms to ordinary circumstances of life (like rolling dice) is entirely obvious, useful, and clear. The fact that some philosophers argue about it is a subject for some other article; I, and our readers, are well-served in their ordinary lives by the simple understanding that the probability of drawing the 17 of hearts from a deck of cards is 0, and the probability of drawing a card with two sides is 1. If you want to enlighten them with some deeper understanding, write about it and put link here. Until then, let's keep the text here practical and useful. -- 2837:
probability of one particular real number in uniform continuous distribution in the segment therefore would intuitively be one over infinity -- expressed as a limit this tends towards zero as the number of points approaches infinity. This changes when you consider a range (a set of points), rather than an individual point. A range in the uniform distribution, for example, could be the interval from zero to .25, which of course would have a probability of 25%. In physical space, lengths are not infinitely divisible, eventually you reach mechanical, molecular, atomic and quantum limits.
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10! So, you could have drawn 4.1234234156839201248324234... How many of these numbers are there? Infinite. So the probability that you draw exactly the one I wrote is zero, i.e. it's almost impossible. But it's still possible! Thus P=0 means "almost impossible" rather than impossible. The misconception that P=0 means impossibility comes from the "rule" that P(empty set)=0, which means that an impossible event has zero probability, i.e. the inverse implication. The latter is true, the former is not. At least for infinite sets, no matter whether they are countable or not.
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exists, it can never ALL-Not-exist at any time, otherwise it can never exist (all-not-exist). So that means all-potential exists (probabilities even), must exist in even in partial form, in some way. Otherwise probability calculations would be impossible (to all-not-exist, is to never be possible to occur or exist). If you make a claim my statement is unintelligable, you make a claim to know which words and which statements, else you don't have a claim to know, so if I am in error, please point out which words and which statements, so that I can correct myself.
2968:= 0, and P(S) = 1.” Glenn Shaffer explains these axioms in a more wordy, less mathematical terms for the average reader to understand. First, the probability of an event must be greater than or equal to zero. If it is less than zero, then the event is not possible. Lastly, Shaffer states that the probability that the event will produce any of the available outcomes is 100%. Going back to the coin example, the probability that a fair coin will land either a head or a tail, is 100%, because those are all of the available outcomes. 334:
notions of probability. So whatever you prove from the axioms of probability theory theory will then apply to the long-term relative frequency notion of probability as well. So a question such as "if you flip a fair coin 5 times, how likely is it that you get at least 4 heads", initially using the intuitive probability notion, can be translated in the language of mathematical probability and solved there. If mathematical probability and everyday probability had nothing to do with each other, then the latter would be useless.
31: 391:"Probability in mathematics" -- identifying probability with coin flipping is extremely limiting. The law of large numbers is a theorem. The limit definition is a feature of a particular school of thought (frequentism). I like "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern" but the coin flipping scenario from R&G doesn't shed any light on "Probability in mathematics. The mention of Bayesianism was clearly an afterthought. 136:
intended meaning is in common use, while still leaving open the possibility of more advanced interpretations that other articles can cover. Furthermore, the common usage is not at all "incorrect" as you imply--it's completely correct in most of the contexts in which probability is used. It I am "drawing dead" in a poker game, that means I have calculated the probability of winning as 0, which means
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system? (eg. air molecules in a room - the highest probability outcome is the one in which the number of atoms is about equal per unit volume; another way of saying this is that it is entirely possible that all the air molecules at once could shift to one corner of the room but the length of time required to observe for this low-probability outcome is longer than some absurdly high number). --
5333:, etc.). This is the article about the basic concept of probability, including prominently the non-mathematical ideas and interpretations that are referred to by this term. It's not reasonable or helpful for more than a third of the article to be taken up by equations that are already explained more clearly and thoroughly in the articles that actually treat those topics. Let's use 1988:"Probability is the chance that something will happen or be the case" would be better, stripping away one of the probability-laden operators. 3. The word "chance" has to my ear OBJECTIVE connotations. But 'probability' can be a subjective notion: degree of belief. "Chance" seems to fit awkwardly with that notion. But thanks for taking the trouble to write this article! 2959:
we that the event will occur?" The certainty we adopt can be described in terms of a numerical measure and this number, between 0 and 1, we call probability. The higher the probability of an event, the more certain we are that the event will occur. Thus, probability in an applied sense is a measure of the confidence a person has that a (random)event will occur.
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that good luck would only be discribed in the short term, as probabilities usually even itself out in the long run. I mean if you hit the 35-1 odds on the roulette table, but was your 38th time you played and never hit, that would not be lucky. However if you hit the same number 38 times in a row on a 35-1 shot, that would be extremely lucky. 16 Jan 2007
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expressed and how they relate. That information is more knowledge about language than about math, but again I see no reason why a page about "probability" should be limited to strict mathematics. Perhaps there is a better way to word the above to be more rigorous and also useful to a lay audience, but I can't think of it off hand. --
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NJIT. Both of their main mathematical focuses aim a probability, making them two of the best sources for this proposal. From a mathematical standpoint, Richard Sheaffer states that “Probability is a numerically valued function that assigns a number P(A) to every event A so that the following axioms hold: P(A) : -->
2828:"on the interval , every point has the same probability, which must be 0" Why must it be 0? Sorry I am not an expert in maths. Also I am failing to understand why this is wrong. "If probability is equal to 1 then that event is certain to happen and if the probability is 0 then that event will never occur." 4879: 99:"certain" and "impossible" events have no measure, and we cannot speak of them within probability theory. If this seems strange, it's related to the notion of denumerability (countability). Denumerable sets have measure zero. The easiest example of a denumerable set is the set of all rational numbers. 2892:
loosely speaking the probability of an event is the number of positive outcomes divided by the number of all possible outcomes. Throw a dice: probability of getting a 3 is 1/6. But now consider something where you have an infinite number of possible outcomes: pick a random number between 3 and 4, the
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particularly the sentence, "Cardinal arithmetic can be used to show not only that the number of points in a real number line is equal to the number of points in any segment of that line, but that this is equal to the number of points on a plane and, indeed, in any finite-dimensional space."). So, the
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I'm guessing it might refer to his finding that for three observations with identically distributed errors around some value, the median of the posterior distribution of that value (under a uniform prior) minimises the mean absolute error. (See for example p. 213 in the translator's afterword to this
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In the last year more than 100 editors have edited the article (also counting non-vandal editors whose edits were reverted, like yours), so it is very much the result of a collaborative effort, and it isn't quite clear what you mean by "running Probability". Your edits were reverted because they were
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Yes I think it would be a good idea to explain the difference between how the physicist and the mathematician view this. In essence, a physicist is someone who would consider an event with a very very small probability (but larger than zero) as totally impossible, while a mathematician is someone who
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of the axiomatic system in the real world. For instance, the long-term relative frequencies often used in everyday life are a model of the probability axioms (or so we believe: this is a statement outside of mathematics and cannot be proven); the probability axioms were constructed to model intuitive
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This is not a trivial issue but has enormous impact on people's (even many physicists') incomprehension of probability as it is used in physics. In particular, the notion of "probability" used by the Copenhagen interpretation of QM is literal nonsense. It's an intuition about the everyday world which
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The beauty of it all is that the dogma is "mathematical truth". One starts with definitions, then develops a theory standing on those definitions. I hold very tightly to this dogma. There may be academics from a wide variety of fields that may dispute the origin, foundations and claims of probability
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That's the whole problem. What the reader "knows", versus what the reader thinks he or she knows, it not the same here. (I just read your peer-review comments, so you can't slither away on a "common sense" argument.) The problem really is in the fact that probability is based on the notion of measure
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Is there enough to say on luck? I have tried to look for a specific definition for luck, but cannot get one in the context of probability. All i can think of it that luck is for an unlikely favourable outcome(although bad luck is an unlikely unfavourable outcome). I would also mention sometime about
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and what exactly does the last part fo this mean. "An impossible event has a probability of exactly 0, and a certain event has a probability of 1, but the converses are not always true" What are the opposites here? A possible event doesnt have a probability of 0, and a uncertain event isnt 1. Surely
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First, I'd like to reiterate that whoever is running Probability is too focused on the math, which for the majority of readers is a dry side issue. What is really interesting to many (most?) people is what does probability mean to us living in the world. I think Pierre Laplace said that the universe
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In other words, by saying that "the probability of heads is 1/2", this law asserts that if we flip our coin often enough, it becomes more and more likely that the number of heads over the number of total flips will become arbitrarily close to 1/2. Unfortunately, this theorem says that the ratio will
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In other words, by saying that "the probability of heads is 1/2", this law asserts that if we flip our coin often enough, it becomes more and more likely that the number of heads over the number of total flips will become arbitrarily close to 1/2. Unfortunately, this theorem says that the ratio will
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Regular stats courses usually don't give the sigma-algebra defintion of probability, but courses called "Probability and Statistics" or "Stochastics" do. I disagree with your statement that mathematical probability has nothing to do with everyday notions of probability. It's an axiomatic system, and
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I'm moving the huge mass of (rather sloppy and unclear) errata on mathematical properties of probabilities out of the article and storing it here. I don't believe this stuff has a place in a top-level, non-mathematical summary article; I've replaced it with a brief summary of the basic concepts and
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The opening sentence brings great concern as to what probability really is. It begins with, “Probability is ordinarily used to describe an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth is not certain.” The word ordinarily is not only ambiguous, but makes the opening sentence tell us very
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The given Knowledge definition is as follows: Probability is ordinarily used to describe an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth is not certain. The proposition of interest is usually of the form "Will a specific event occur?" The attitude of mind is of the form "How certain are
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In this proposal, I will discuss why the Knowledge definition for “Probability,” is not a good, valid definition, and needs to be changed. Probability is something that is used every day. It is what helps us further understand the outcomes of the events in life that are uncertain. However, in order
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The article currently reads "The certainty we adopt can be described in terms of a numerical measure and this number, between 0 and 1 (where 0 indicates impossibility and 1 indicates certainty)." I think we've established in the talk section that this statement is incorrect. Based on the talk page,
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page into a good article. The paragraphs above should fit nicely into an improved probability interpretations page. That is in fact also true for a large part of the current article. It should be moved to the interpretations page and removed from this page. I'm not sure what would be appropriate to
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talk page. I would like someone who feels they can be independent and fair to both sides. This page includes religious discussions and is somewhat controversial, but I don't think this should affect the specific discussion regarding the probability of an event. You can also leave a message on my
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Here is a practical example that shows how that "almost" does have an effect on reality, it's neither epistemology nor metaphysics... Draw a number between 1 and 10. What is the probability of drawing one particular number? 1/10? Wrong. Because I was talking about an irrational number between 1 and
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In a nutshell, the probability of any particular event, including taking the values 0 or 1, is 0. That is, it forms a set of no measure. For a concrete example, integrating f between a and a equals 0. Which is how random variables assign values, through the action of the associated integral. So the
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The statement that, "One in a thousand probability played a thousand times has only a one in a million chance of failure," is patently false. An event with a .001 probability, repeated one thousand times, independently, has a 36.7% chance of not occurring in those thousand trials. That's a far cry
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I was always taught that it's not meaningful to assign probabilities to things which have occurred, except 0 or 1, since they either definitely did or definitely did not occur, and ignorance of which is not a basis for a probabilistic statement. To give such a past event a probability of 0.5 would
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Oh yeah... common sense would say that P(E) = 0 means impossible, etc., but that doesn't lead to useful definitions for a theory of probability (if it did, the introductory texts would teach it that way instead of studiously avoiding the topic). I am really hoping someone currently teaching a grad
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I agree with LDC that the page should be accessible to lay audiences, but let's not insult their intelligence. Just because the distinctions are subtle (subtile heh) is no reason to hide them, and these fine points really are part of the story of how and why probability works, in both the pure and
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Yes, I think the overly careful avoidance of "certainty" and "impossibility" here is more confusing than useful. How about something along the lines of "probability 0 is generally understood to represent 'impossibility', while 1 is understood to represent 'certainty'". That makes it clear what the
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I am not quite sure as to its relevance here, or whether it should be here at all, but I wonder whether this quote by Niels Bhor would be of use here as an example of probability in action: "I know nothing of probability, I only know that someone once told me that a million monkeys could probably
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is misleading. John von Neumann wrote an article about "hidden variables" in quantum mechanics in which he proves that a certain quantum mechanical system cannot be described within the usual probability theory framework (measure space, Borel algebra, etc.). The Knowledge article on von Neumann
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Perhaps I should stop defending and ask some of my own questions, to wit: what does "impossible" mean, and how can we say with any "certainty" (whatever that means) what is or is not impossible? "Almost everywhere", "almost impossible" and "almost certain" have precise mathematical definitions in
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Two good quality sources comes from Richard L. Sheaffer in his book, Introduction to Probability and Its Applications, and Glenn Shaffer in his book Probability and Finance. Both Sheaffer and Shaffer are well known mathematicians whose textbooks are used in a vast majority of colleges, including
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That is correct. A xor B is the same event as (A and not B) or (not A and B), in which the two choices for "or" are disjoint events. From that the result follows by applying the given formulas. There are 10 possible combinations involving A and/or B, not counting symmetric combinations twice, of
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Please start new topics at the bottom, not at the top. It's higher because of the "or". It would have been very slightly higher again if the "or" was taken to be an "inclusive or". The example quotes the correct probability if you take "or" to be the "exclusive or". However, the example does not
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I don't contribute on here much, let alone for math, but the equation or at least the example labeled "events that aren't mutually exclusive" is clearly wrong. I'm still learning, but I can tell you that the probability of drawing two specific cards out of a deck is not 103/2704; that's close to
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I see we have a new section "Mathematical treatment", giving a basic treatment that was missing. There is some overlap between this and a later section "Theory", and I think the two should be merged. Also, now "Mathematical treatment" is the first section after the lead section, but usually that
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Would it be worthwhile to extend the physical interpretation of probability to the statistical-mechanics definition of entropy, which suggests that in general, the highest-probability configuration of (insert whatever) is the one generally achieved, and this tends to maximize the disorder in the
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The most I will concede is Bremaud's definition (P. Bremaud, An Introduction to Probabilistic Modeling, p.4). The event E such that Prob(E) = 1 is the "almost certain" event, the E' such that P(E') = 0 is the "almost impossible" event. I stress the technical aspect of these definitions: "almost"
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Alright, do events exist? We'll use boolean algebra (only yes's and no's), Yes the exist, ok, now do the PARTIAL-EVENTS exist? i.e. when you have an intent to go to the store, before you have begun moving, does the event exist partially in your mind as a probability? Yes or no. Probability =
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By the way, is it only my impression or have people stopped teaching the mathematical definition of probability in stats courses? The only textbook I found which contained a formal definition of probability (as opposed to relying on people's intuition) was pretty old. I base my understanding of
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I have concerns about this opening sentence: 1. The definition seems circular (although one might think that there is no way of breaking out of such a circle when it comes to defining probability). 2. Worse, the definition involves a second-order probability: "CHANCE that something is LIKELY".
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Actually it's not the principle of bi-valence, obviously you mis-understood. There are only only three kinds of truth statements in logic, ALL-Actual-exist-is-true, ALL-Partial-exist-is-true, ALL-Negate-exist-is-true. So no I wasn't speaking about the law of the excluded middle. If something
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Now, the Law of Large Numbers; though many texts butcher this deliberately to avoid tedious explanations to the average freshman, the law of large numbers is not the limit stated in this entry. Upon reflection, one can even see that the limit stated isn't well-defined. Fortunately, you present
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Now, the Law of Large Numbers; though many texts butcher this deliberately to avoid tedious explanations to the average freshman, the law of large numbers is not the limit stated in this entry. Upon reflection, one can even see that the limit stated isn't well-defined. Fortunately, you present
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Of course, but I'm not writing for mathematicians. To ordinary human beings, converting from one notation to another is indeed a "computation", although typing "1÷2=" into a calculator is a pretty simple one. I think it's important to show laymen the different ways they might see probabilities
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Besides the grammar and usage problems, this definition endorses a particular view of the (disputed) definition of probability. Even if it were cleaned up to standard grammar, I don't think an unqualified assertion of one perspective on a disputed topic as fact belongs in the first paragraph.
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By the way, Bayesianism is an approach to scientific reasoning based on the idea that a well-confirmed theory is one that presently has high subjective probability. The name comes from the fact that Bayes's theorem is a central tool in the calculation of the probability of a theory given the
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While I am by no means an expert, I have read the book by Von Neumann and Morgenstern, and I have a hard time understanding how game theory is "strictly based on probability." I'd even go so far as to say that that statement is complete rubbish - game theory may apply probability in solution
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In the section "Formalizing probability" a list of three statements is given, and it is implied that the listed statements are the "laws of probability." While the statements are true, they are not the same as the Kolmogorov axioms that the are linked to in the paragraph. I'd say it's fairly
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There is no mention made of the most important interpretation of probability. Assuming Laplacian Determinism is correct, which most if not all of science assumes, then probability is really a study of observers and their inaccuracies, not of the world they are observing. Purely mathematical
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The first paragraph is pure poetry. Some of the second paragraph is not accurate. Probability 0 is not the same as impossible, and probability 1 is not the same as certainty. I fixed the page, then somehow, all the changes got lost. grrr don't have the heart to go back through it right now.
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In the above named section, it says "Frequentists talk about probabilities only when dealing with well defined random experiments." It seems doubtfull if frequentists only deal with experiments: surely any repeatable random process will do, even a natural one. So I am picking on the word
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This "Terminology" section seems specific to the Objectivist camp. Maybe it should be moved to after the "Interpretations" section and renamed "Terminology of the Objectivist camp"? I'm not suggesting that that's the ideal solution, just that it seems like a step in the right direction.
465:"Probability in mathematics" -- strike this section and move some pieces of it elsewhere: move coin flipping & law of large numbers to an application section, move limit definition to discussion of frequentism, strike R&G, mention Bayesianism under a section on interpretation. 127:
the fact that very often, "0" is taken to be impossibility and "1" certainty. Anyway, do please make your point clearer in the text! If not you, who? If not now, when? :-) Also, what's this about "slithering away" on a "common sense" argument? What do you mean? :-) --Slitheringly,
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Ok, I just reread the main text. I concede that I did not make the point clear, and it could, should, and probably will be redone by someone smarter than me by the time I peruse down the relevant texts and ponder it a bit. If not, I will be back after I think about it some more.
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the mathematics of probability to real-world situations is also a philosophical one, and is the same as the question of how to apply scientific findings to real life. That, too, is a subject entirely irrelevant here. Putting links to articles about those philosophical questions
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appropriate here, so feel free to do so. But this article is about probability itself as a subject. The mathematics of probability--which, like all mathematics, exist entire independently of any interpretation or application thereof--assigns the number "1" to mean "certainty",
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I think there ought to be a separate article on chance (including propensity). There's plenty to say about it. Currently I think the whole treatment of the different varieties of probability in connected articles is fairly poor, and could do with improvement & a clean up.
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that there are academics, from a wide variety of fields, who dispute about the very questions on which you are dogmatic. Moreover, an encyclopedia article called "probability" should do justice to all sides of this disputation. Anyway, I totally agree with your last sentence!
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However, these effects only show up if you do "artificial things" such as flipping a coin forever or picking a random real number. For everyday probabilities, which are always discrete probabilities, the notions of zero probability and impossibility are indeed identical.
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probability of getting exactly pi is 1/infinity = 0. However it is not *impossible* to get pi, just very very unlikely. Of course this is very much a theoretical concept, since in pretty much all real world applications you have only a finite number of possible outcomes.
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This is my first time editing or pointing something out, so I apologize if I'm not using the correct etiquette but the union and intersection operators are currently flipped for most of the article rendering the formulas wrong. I don't have time to change it, good luck.
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Agree, I did pinch some of the text from Prob theory section as it explained some things better. As to position, I've moved it below history. I think there is some text from the edits you mention which could helpfully be reinserted, without the article growing too much.
1811:. While these edits were somewhat extreme, we should guard against the other extreme: a more formal mathematical section growing beyond bounds. Instead we should aim at keeping it confined to an elementary level, referring to other articles for more advanced things.  -- 1902:, I know of no justification for equating probability with "partial existence" or "partial truth", and I am unable to assign a meaning to the sequence of words "truth does exist all of the time", so the above is totally lost on me. But, in any case, this page is for 1547:
degrees of belief in their truth, or to logically justifiable degrees of belief in their truth. Among statisticians and philosophers, many more distinctions are drawn beyond this subjective/objective divide. See the article on interpretations of probability at the
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No mention of subjective probability? It's been too long since I've studied this, so I won't change this article, but clearly we need to say something about that. Someone's also clearly got to write about the different philosophical theories of what probability is.
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To start the discussion- it seems like there's two things battling it out in this article 1) certainty+epistemology and 2) probability+mathematics. This article is nearly all about mathematics but that weird first parag was trying to take it in another direction
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Another edit, adding about 2k chars at this position, was made by the same IP to this talk section at 01:41 (still on 7 July) -- and was reverted (as "Mumbojumbo", per edit summ) at 01:44 by a colleague with (at that time) about 6 months of WP reg'n and 2100
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that the coin was a "fair" coin). Furthermore, mathematically speaking, the above limit is not well-defined; the law of large numbers is a little more convoluted and dependent upon already having some definition of probability. The theorem states that, given
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that the coin was a "fair" coin). Furthermore, mathematically speaking, the above limit is not well-defined; the law of large numbers is a little more convoluted and dependent upon already having some definition of probability. The theorem states that, given
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I know next to nothing about probability, but I came here looking for a formula for getting the probability of the exclusive or of two sets. Is this something that could be added to the page, as it's always included in similar discussions on boolean logic.
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has been spammed by multiple IP addresses across articles on several European language Wikipedias. Could regular editors of this article take a look at it to see if it adds high quality, unique information to the external links section in keeping with our
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This article needs some work. Different topics are mixed together and there are some inaccuracies. The edits listed below (second list) are intended to separate the article into four parts: (1) concept of probability, (2) an overview of formalization (let
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Independence and mutual exclusion are completely different things. If you draw a card from a 52-card deck, there is a 1/13 chance that it is a Jack, and a 1/4 chance that it is a Spade. These events are independent: the chance to draw a Jack of Spades is
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Maybe this example is a tiny bit more down to Earth: say you flip a fair coin repeatedly, keep doing it forever. How likely is it that you get Tail all the way through, forever? Pretty unlikely. In fact, the probability can be shown to be 0. But truly
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discussions on probability may be interesting to mathematicians, but mathematicians are a small subset of people who are interested in the broader concept of probability. Is there not room for other views besides strictly mathematical ones? Thanks --
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My entire point really is that the current theory of probability confounds common sense in some aspects. The places where this happens ("impossibility" etc) are a result of the construction of the theory. We should embrace this, not gloass over it.
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Further complicating everything is the distinction between the continuous and discrete aspects of probability. I notice that Probability is (lately) classified as discrete math, but thats not entirely correct, and is a topic for a different day. :)
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I don't see how you are getting that implication from the image. Each combination is given the same height on the graph, so it illustrates the point that "The probability of any one combination is identical to that of any other combination, 1/36."
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I published a book on physical probability (chance) recently, and thought I would write a section for this article on chance. At present there is just a very brief section on the propensity interpretation. Or should this be a separate article?
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at all. A frequentist is actually unable to technically interpret such uses of the probability concept, even though 'probability' is often used in this way in colloquial speech. Frequentists only assign probabilities to outcomes of well defined
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In mathematics, the notion of only one of those events occuring is sheer nonsense. (Mathematics is incapable of distinguishing between "can" happen and "does" happen so if only one event "does" happen then that's because it has probability 1.)
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It is often easier for people to understand risk when probabilities are expressed as "natural frequencies" rather than as a number in the range of 0-1. See, for example: The advantages of expressing probabilities as natural frequencies. See:
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Stoppard's scene that so poignantly illustrates the issues involved with using the law of large numbers to interpret probabilities; the exact issue of it not being a guarantee of convergence. I have an edit which I present for discussion:
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Stoppard's scene that so poignantly illustrates the issues involved with using the law of large numbers to interpret probabilities; the exact issue of it not being a guarantee of convergence. I have an edit which I present for discussion:
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Is it quite true that subjective probability is the same as Bayesianism? I was under the impression that Bayesianism is rather a mathematical theory which is an (or perhaps the only current) interpretation of subjective probability.
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Please can an expert add some content to this page on the frequentist, propensity and subjectivist (Bayesian) interpretations of probability as this seems pretty crucial but is missing from the article. There is a starting point
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In older versions there were two more extensive sections, one titled "Formalizing probability", the other "Probability in mathematics", but these were replaced by one very brief brief section "Theory" referring the reader to
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in a uniform distribution is 1. I think the answer to 212.58.233.129's question is that an event of probability 1 does not imply that it is inevitable, and having a probability of 0 doesn't imply that it will never happen.
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By the way, I haven't added to a Knowledge discussion before so sorry if I haven't followed the proper protocols. I just thought I'd mention my concern in the hope that some hard-core Knowledge person would follow it up.
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An individual point in a continuous uniform distribution has a theoretical probability zero because it is one point in an infinite set of points. The number of points in any segment of the real number line is infinite (see
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I submit that coins should be assumed fair (unbiased) unless otherwise stated. Specifying a fair/unbiased coin with each use of the word, or that we are drawing a "random" card from a "regular" deck obscures the article.
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An analogy would be, the probability of an individual point in a continuous uniform distribution would be the probability of a winning lottery ticket, in a lottery with an infinite number of tickets (vanishingly small)!
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Nonetheless, I agree that the way probability is `defined' in the current version of the article needs some refinement, and other than the above comment, I like what you've got, Tlee. I'd say just go ahead and make the
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Nonetheless, I agree that the way probability is `defined' in the current version of the article needs some refinement, and other than the above comment, I like what you've got, Tlee. I'd say just go ahead and make the
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I find several of the examples on this page and some the pages linked to it to be confusing. The examples need to be linked to easily understandable, real world situations rather than abstract mathematic explanations.
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Note: Most mathematicians would claim that 1/2 = 0.5 and that no computation is needed to convert them. Likewise, 50% is merely notational abbreviation for 50/100 and likewise needs no conversion to be a real number --
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Even if there are contexts in which probability theory is useful with other definitions of what 0 and 1 mean, that doesn't change their definition in the far more common contexts our readers are likely to care about.
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theory, but I rather suspect none of these academicians are practicing, contemporary mathematicians (unless they be constructivists... and even they would likely uphold the discrete aspect. But lets not go there :).
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it is not. It's just not going to happen. And if you don't like zeros all the way through: how likely is it that you flip the binary expansion of π (say Tail = 0, Head = 1)? Again, the probability is 0. In fact,
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to further our knowledge of probability, we must truly understand the definition of the word first. According to Knowledge, there is not a clear, valid definition for probability, and I propose to change this.
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I have removed the word "likelihood" from the definition of probability because while in common use the two are synonyms, likelihood has a technical meaning in statistics that is distinct from probability.
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handle it mostly), (3) interpretations of formal theory, and (4) applications. If there is interest, I'll carry out the edits on a trial version so that you can see what the effect of such edits would be.
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has an episode which may be about this subject (if not moving this note to the appropriate talk page earns cookies). You can add it to "External links" by pasting * {{In Our Time|Probability|b00bqf61}}.
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I've often heard "0" probability described as "impossibility" and "1" as "certainty." It is of no explanatory advantage at all to say that "number 0" means "probability 0." The reader already knew
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Someone added it again. "attitude of mind" is not mentioned in the body of the article so it seems pointless, and I have no idea if the reference mentions it. I'm going to delete it again.
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Partial existence, or a partial truth (small truth). Now does truth exist all of the time? Yes or No. Yes. Therefore probability exists, of the type that it is a partially-existent-truth.
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A Bayesian may assign a probability to the proposition that 'there was life on Mars a billion years ago', since that is uncertain, whereas a frequentist would not assign probabilities to
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For the reasons stated above, the "definition" given in this section is wrong and misleading for any serious readers. I would try to rewrite this section soon. Are there any objections?
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For example, the probability that aliens will come and destroy us is x to 1 because there are so many different possibilities (nice aliens, mean but weaker aliens, non existing aliens)/
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In actual practice, of course, we cannot flip a coin an infinite number of times; so in general, this formula most accurately applies to situations in which we have already assigned an
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In actual practice, of course, we cannot flip a coin an infinite number of times; so in general, this formula most accurately applies to situations in which we have already assigned an
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to do with the intuitive notions of probability people use in everyday life. In everyday life, a set of events each have a probability of happening and one of those events happens.
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make the refs' links back into this section have an effect only for those who've already found which section causes them to appear at the bottom, and "deactivated" the "hiding".
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There should be a mention of probability in the luck article, or is there no connection between luck and probability? ISn't luck after all probability resulting in our favour?
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I like the attempt in the article to not just define the mathematical terms, but some philosophical aspect as well. The reference is to Kendall, who for sure is not the least.
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Needs to have basic mathematical definition of probability and rules for p(A and B) p(A or B) p(A|B). The applications section needs some attention to check for POV issues. --
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which a formula is given for four. The formulas for the other six can be derived from those. I do not have a clear argument for or against listing these in the article.  --
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has been reduced to a stub, it may be best to redirect it to here, after merging any valuable information left not already present here (possibly none – didn't check).  --
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I agree. I've tried to reword it to fix these problems. I also deleted the reference to the old dictionary definition, since it no longer applies to the current text. --
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it seems these types of statements continue to creep in the article. There are plenty of modern sources to cite that establish the meaning of probabilities of 0 and 1.
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class.
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so that casinos can make a guaranteed profit, yet provide payouts to players that are frequent enough to encourage continued play. Flipping a coin is 50-50. Throwing a
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Sheaffer, R. (2010). Introduction to probability and its applications. (3rd ed.). Glenn Shaffer. (2010, June 18). Probability and Finance. Retrieved June 22, 2012 from
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this is true. Please can someone explain this. I have basic probability knowledge and would like to understand more into depth the theories and ideas of probabilities.
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Open to discussion if anyone really feels strongly that all of this stuff needs to be in a non-technical summary article, but I feel pretty strongly that it does not.
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The section "History" contains the following mysterious statement: "He deduced a formula for the mean of three observations." I assume that this is not the formula (x
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As a question, would it be better to use the term independent rather than mutually exclusive? Furthermore, can you explain what is "inclusive" versus "exclusive or?
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Yes calling probability an "attitude of mind" is extremely confusing and wrong. I've changed it once but it was reverted without good reason ("not an improvement")
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article do most of the work; mention density & distribution functions and connect those with Kolmogorov formulation; mention Cox formulation and give cross ref.
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Brown, T A, Shuford, E., "Quantifying Uncertainty Into Numerical Probabilities for the Reporting of Intelligence," Rand Corp., Santa Monica CA, R-1185-ARPA, '73.
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Whatever point the image is trying to make, it requires A) movement to another part of the page or another page altogether, B) clearer labelling, or C) removal
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refers to the fact that these events both occur (as does any other event) with probability 0, that is, with no measure. This stuff is really sticky, no doubt.
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For example, when drawing a single card at random from a regular deck of cards, the chance of getting a heart or a face card (J,Q,K) (or one that is both) is
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i.e. we can think of a picture that fades into black, and then back to it's original state, as it fades into black, its 'likelyness' of existence decreasing?
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Oh, grow up. I am expressing my opinion about what would be useful here; if you disagree, express yours. If you think I'm full of crap, say so, but explain
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Lee, you are speaking for all of our readers? Well, then, by all means I bow to your authority. My participation in this conversation is necessarily over.
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as such devoid of meaning: you just prove what the axioms allow you to prove. But of course the whole point of the axiomatic system is that there are
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Lest this not be construed as a neutral point of view, open any text on the foundations of probability and measure theory. That's where I learned it.
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It's clear that the article is starting with possible results on a single six-sided die. So please do not "correct" it to "a dice" or "dice roll."
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There's no winning on this issue. Likelihood is circular too. Removing "chance that something is likely" is probably (er, likely?) a good thing.
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Situations do arise where probability theory is somewhat lacking. One method of attempting to circumvent this indeterminancy is the theory of
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There are many interpretations that are made of probability, but I find the opening sentences of this article to be confusing and incomplete.
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Hello Everyone, I was just wondering if someone could create a sub-page of how probability has been used culturally and in fiction, thanks.
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is the article about the mathematical theory; the details and axioms and theorems are explored in a number of even more specific articles (
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This is a misleading image: it implies that there are different probabilities for different combinations of fair dice, but there aren't.
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It will be helpful to include a discussion of natural frequencies and the advantages cited in these references in this article. Thanks! --
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where the proportionality symbol means that the left hand side is proportional to (i.e., equals a constant times) the right hand side as
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probability is and how probability claims are to be interpreted, as though this were "known by scientists," you fail to do justice to the
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1. Experience: relevant past information. 2. Counting: abstract reasoning. 3. Subjective: instinctive feelings, knowledge, training.
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I suggest that the discussion above, which appears to be inactive, be archived. I'll do so in a week or two unless I hear otherwise.
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Epstein, E. S., "A Scoring System for Probability Forecasts of Ranked Categories," J. Appl. Meteorology, 8 (6), 12/69, pp. 985-987.
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on the interval , every point has the same probability, which must be 0. Do you think this means that every point is impossible? --
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The textbook "Essentials of finite mathematics," Robert F. Brown, Brenda W. Brown has these three distinctive views of this term:
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I found the frequentist/Bayesian distinction unclear and misleading. I believe Brown/Brown got it right with these 3 categories.
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Come on, that was the only sentence in the whole article that I understood! The rest of it is all dictionary-y and in Latin! --
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Landa, S.,"CAAPM: Computer Aided Admissible Probability Measurement on Plato IV," Rand Corp., Santa Monica CA, R-1721-ARPA, '76
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Well, at least one reader now knows he doesn't know anything about probability, a nice improvement over merely thinking it. ;-)
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This is a very nice article. I was very happy to see the distinction between 0 probability events and impossible events. :) --
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I see it has already been reverted. I don't think this is a non-technical article. It should have at least high school math.
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imply, for example, that if you checked the facts an infinite number of times, you'd get two answers with equal frequency. --
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will get closer and closer to the probability of a single coin flip being heads. Most casual observers are even willing to
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para 2: strike last sentence and move discussion of numerical values of "impossible" and "certain" to a math-oriented part.
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by this expression. However, it is possible to define a conditional probability for some zero-probability events using a
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In everyday life, it takes many iterations of an experiment, each with its singular outcome, to be able to reconstruct a
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para 2: what mathematicians think probability is, is not too important. Disclaimer: I have an undergraduate math degree.
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since we're talking reals). When dealing with infinitesimals, it may not be appropriate to define it that way. And it
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For example, in a bag of 2 red balls and 2 blue balls (4 balls in total), the probability of taking a red ball is
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have in this article actually, that wouldn't fit better under some other heading. Maybe the best thing to do with
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para 1: probable == "likely to..." is problematic -- what is "likely" ? This will lead to a circular definition.
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from one in a million. I'm not sure what the author was trying to describe by this section, but it didn't work.
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Gao, J.Z.; Fong, D.; Liu, X. (April 2011). "Mathematical analyses of casino rebate systems for VIP gambling".
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Actually, I dislike all my tries as soon as I write them down. But there will be a new version real soon now.
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Savage, L J, "Elicitation of Personal Probabilities & Expectations," J. Amer. Stat. Assoc. '71, 783-801.
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about the probability. In mathematics, all of the outcomes happen and the probability distribution is exact.
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concepts, but it isn't "based on probability." This is even obvious from the article on game theory itself.
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Eisenberg, E., Gale, G. "Consensus of Subjective Probabilities," Ann. Math. Stat., 30, 3/59, pp. 165-168.
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write the whole of my oeuvre on a typewriter in a million billion years, so I punched him in the nose."
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References could include such items as the following and SHOULD INCLUDE Savage, Eisenberg/Gale items:
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or both events occur on a single performance of an experiment this is called the union of the events
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I think we should do nearly the opposite thing: move most of the contents in this article to the
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Probability is a way of expressing knowledge or belief that an event will occur or has occurred.
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it is the prediction of an event happening based on an already occurrence of that same event
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Brown, T. A., Probabilistic Forecasts and Reproducing Scoring Systems, RM-6299-ARPA, 6/70.
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sequence you produce this way has probability zero, even though one of them will happen.
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probably get close to the stated probability, and provides no guarantees of convergence.
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redirects here, but im gonna steal it for an epistemology acrticle. will do a disambig
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article; doesn't mention Cox formulation as alternative to Kolmogorov formulation.
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Could someone here help arbitrate on a discussion regarding probability on the
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I make a claim that this page is not intended for this kind of discussion.  --
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Graphic titled 'The probabilities of rolling several numbers using two dice.'
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would consider some events with exactly zero probability as possible anyway.
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para 3: strike this para; put link collection at end of introductory section.
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Theory of the Combination of Observations Least Subject to Errors: Part One
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Probability is the chance that something is likely to happen or be the case
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probability. Attributing any other meaning is philosophy, not mathematics.
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and is supposed to express all other particles also the "theory of all"
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https://rogerkerry.wordpress.com/2016/09/30/communicating-risk-part-2/
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para 1: strike mention of "probability theory" -- there are links to
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just a matter of definition, as is all of mathematics. --LDC
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plain and simple is to turn it into an disambiguation page?
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I just want to point out that if you dogmatically state
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