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269:"Beni Hammad Fort" is a crude and not quite accurate translation of Qal'a(t) Bani Hammad. "Fort" usually implies a smaller fortification, not a citadel or capital city. The vast majority of English-language reliable sources refer to this site by its full Arabic transliteration, "Qal'at Bani Hammad" or "Qal'a Bani Hammad", or more rarely "Qal'at of the Bani Hammad" or one of those variants with "Beni" or "Banu" instead of "Bani", and so on. "Al Qal'a of Beni Hammad" is used by UNESCO, but like other UNESCO names it's more of a title than a common name. 71: 53: 174: 153: 81: 22: 301: 451: 289: 288:(but note that Google Books searches include repetitions, non-English books, and non-identical spellings in its results, so the results aren't worth much unless you take a closer look at the books themselves). "Beni Hammad Fort" is virtually non-existent in published sources; the only two examples I could find in a 285: 406: 337: 532: 556: 377: 510:
Since there is no basis for the current name in reliable sources to begin with, and since I expect there are few active editors with knowledge of this topic, I'm just going to do a
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Denoix, Sylvie (2008). "Founded Cities of the Arab World from the Seventh to the Eleventh Centuries". In Jayyusi, Salma K. (ed.).
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Whitcomb, Donald. "Archaeology". In Fleet, Kate; Krämer, Gudrun; Matringe, Denis; Nawas, John; Rowson, Everett (eds.).
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The name "Qal'at Bani Hammad" is the most common among reliable mainstream English publications, for example:
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Others use the same spelling but without the "t", as mentioned, for example:
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M. Bloom, Jonathan; S. Blair, Sheila, eds. (2009). "Qal῾at Bani Hammad".
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