460:
384:
356:
370:
272:
394:
251:
282:
220:
977:
I oppose it because it's a vague bland generic name which does nothing to capture the specific historical experience of this group. Most times when you hear about "the X minority in Y", then a default mental image of the situation is assumed which would be incorrect for this case. Also, people from
1065:
have observed, "Stranded
Pakistanis" is how the literature refers to them. It may not be as apt a name as it was in the immediate aftermath of East Pakistan becoming Bangladesh, and may not be a term used for other groups, but it is not Knowledge's place to invent a "better" name for the group, but
1032:
The article is about people who was and is proud
Pakistani, fought against Indians in 1947 and Bangladeshis in 1971 for Urdu and Pakistan, have choosen Pakistani citizenship, rejected Bangladeshi citizenship, still waiting to be in Pakistan!!! so the current name is perfectly okey!
153:
613:
Can someone work on getting some actual citations for this stuff? Thinking of deleting a paragraph in that intro because 1. exactly 0 citations and 2. doesn't sound very wikipedia like. put this poor article out of its misery!!
665:
in the classroom, sixty-some years ago. I need to consult my favorite professional writer in the morning, since her mom (my !) was a teacher. But here's another vocabulary word for you to use in responding to any criticism:
625:
629:
597:
147:
944:
889:
829:
648:
621:
550:
1140:
44:
1199:
800:
636:
I've added a general tag that should cover all of the various citation neededs (is that a word?) in the article. Now all we have to do is trim the excess tags.
539:
859:
450:
987:
956:
468:
917:
That name might be starting to become appropriate, but for 35 years they weren't considered
Bangladeshi citizens (the older generation still aren't).
338:
926:
904:
879:
819:
564:
190:
844:
680:
168:
978:
post-1974 Pakistan with valid
Pakistani passports who travel to Bangladesh are completely separate from the group discussed in this article...
662:
135:
943:
Cannot be refugees, and no reason why being non-citizens doesn't stop them from being members of a minority: support
Piotrus's proposal of
1194:
784:
Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
440:
1159:
866:
The great majority of them were never in today's
Pakistan (what used to be called West Pakistan), so they can't be considered refugees
79:
1179:
328:
1204:
1189:
525:
129:
1122:
1048:
1184:
1174:
1144:
1079:
766:
1027:
125:
416:
85:
1113:
1136:
304:
175:
1150:
I think it's just stating the situation as it existed in 1947, without intending to imply anything about later periods.
1040:
492:
30:
1135:
there still is, and it exists to this day, far exceeding the number of Muslim
Biharis both in Bangladesh AND Pakistan
825:
502:
497:
24:
487:
407:
361:
1108:
1001:
99:
1010:- There are 6 citations given for the lead sentence, where the terminology is used. The move proposal is wholly
369:
295:
256:
141:
104:
20:
74:
518:
231:
850:
Generally not always, reliable sources such as news items and books refer to them as
Stranded Pakistanis.
65:
728:
185:
1089:
855:
775:
511:
1044:
415:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
303:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
219:
109:
1132:
I'm incredibly confused by the history section saying "there WAS a Muslim minority in Bihar"
1099:
785:
237:
203:
1075:
1067:
1058:
1036:
851:
812:
617:
8:
1023:
952:
55:
1155:
1127:
983:
922:
875:
70:
1117:
898:
838:
399:
51:
658:
546:
161:
1071:
805:
742:
704:
677:
287:
1062:
1019:
948:
598:
there are almost twice as many s as there are citations in this friggin article
529:
1098:
Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
199:
1168:
1151:
1015:
979:
918:
871:
1011:
894:
834:
637:
695:
574:
459:
204:
738:
700:
673:
535:
412:
383:
355:
832:– Generally we call those type of people refugees, not "stranded".
557:
300:
271:
250:
201:
667:
205:
735:
not to edit when I'm too tired; would that make things right?
661:(huh! Spell correction objects to "participal", so maybe I
602:
s as there are citations in this friggin article": -->
160:
1088:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
411:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
389:
299:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
277:
15:
788:. No further edits should be made to this section.
573:Extend, add an infobox and a map of New Eskaton to
1102:. No further edits should be made to this section.
731:..." in place of "...] ...", plus my promise to
1166:
33:for general discussion of the article's subject.
657:"eededs" is ungrammatical, bcz "needed" is the
1200:Help of History Workgroup of Bangladesh needed
174:
467:The article falls into the work area of the
892:would be another name we could consider? --
469:History workgroup of WikiProject Bangladesh
217:
774:The following is a closed discussion of a
870:Pakistan (as that title might imply)...
526:History of Bangladesh after independence
1167:
670:. "Use as needed", and enjoy doing so!
622:2602:306:BCC4:2230:889D:16E9:1EF2:8EE4
895:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
835:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
793:The result of the move request was:
405:This article is within the scope of
293:This article is within the scope of
213:
236:It is of interest to the following
23:for discussing improvements to the
13:
1195:Mid-importance Bangladesh articles
549:back to FA as it was demoted (see
538:back to FA as it was demoted (see
479:WikiProject Bangladesh To-do list:
458:
14:
1216:
826:Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh
25:Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh
1180:Mid-importance Pakistan articles
945:Pakistani minority in Bangladesh
890:Pakistani minority in Bangladesh
830:Pakistani refugees in Bangladesh
425:Knowledge:WikiProject Bangladesh
392:
382:
368:
354:
280:
270:
249:
218:
45:Click here to start a new topic.
1205:WikiProject Bangladesh articles
1190:Start-Class Bangladesh articles
445:This article has been rated as
428:Template:WikiProject Bangladesh
333:This article has been rated as
767:Requested move 9 February 2017
313:Knowledge:WikiProject Pakistan
1:
1185:WikiProject Pakistan articles
1175:Start-Class Pakistan articles
1123:20:03, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
1080:19:34, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
1049:00:59, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
1028:22:17, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
988:23:19, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
957:14:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
927:22:57, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
905:21:08, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
880:08:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
820:01:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
681:09:12, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
419:and see a list of open tasks.
316:Template:WikiProject Pakistan
307:and see a list of open tasks.
42:Put new text under old text.
860:17:21, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
845:13:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
649:00:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
630:00:23, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
519:Climate change in Bangladesh
7:
50:New to Knowledge? Welcome!
10:
1221:
570:Make a MRT line 3 article.
451:project's importance scale
339:project's importance scale
1160:11:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
1145:19:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
512:Bangladesh Liberation War
474:
466:
444:
377:
332:
265:
244:
80:Be welcoming to newcomers
1095:Please do not modify it.
781:Please do not modify it.
755:, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
711:, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
521:, it needs a lot of work
463:
408:WikiProject Bangladesh
226:This article is rated
75:avoid personal attacks
462:
100:Neutral point of view
296:WikiProject Pakistan
105:No original research
727:Uh, how about "...
563:Take a look at the
510:Add more images to
431:Bangladesh articles
565:requested articles
464:
232:content assessment
86:dispute resolution
47:
1051:
1039:comment added by
804:
801:non-admin closure
694:Sorry, make that
632:
620:comment added by
595:
594:
591:
590:
587:
586:
583:
582:
560:and related pages
514:and related pages
400:Bangladesh portal
349:
348:
345:
344:
319:Pakistan articles
212:
211:
66:Assume good faith
43:
1212:
1120:
1097:
1034:
901:
841:
817:
810:
798:
783:
659:past participial
646:
645:
642:
615:
610:
609:
605:
547:Bengali language
476:
475:
433:
432:
429:
426:
423:
402:
397:
396:
395:
386:
379:
378:
373:
372:
371:
366:
358:
351:
350:
321:
320:
317:
314:
311:
290:
285:
284:
283:
274:
267:
266:
261:
253:
246:
245:
229:
223:
222:
214:
206:
179:
178:
164:
95:Article policies
16:
1220:
1219:
1215:
1214:
1213:
1211:
1210:
1209:
1165:
1164:
1130:
1128:History section
1118:
1114:Just a reminder
1111:
1106:
1093:
1066:to reflect the
1059:Vinegarymass911
1004:
903:
899:
852:Vinegarymass911
843:
839:
813:
806:
779:
769:
643:
640:
638:
611:
607:
603:
601:
600:
507:
430:
427:
424:
421:
420:
398:
393:
391:
367:
364:
318:
315:
312:
309:
308:
288:Pakistan portal
286:
281:
279:
259:
230:on Knowledge's
227:
208:
207:
202:
121:
116:
115:
114:
91:
61:
12:
11:
5:
1218:
1208:
1207:
1202:
1197:
1192:
1187:
1182:
1177:
1163:
1162:
1129:
1126:
1110:
1107:
1105:
1104:
1090:requested move
1084:
1083:
1082:
1052:
1030:
1003:
1000:
999:
998:
997:
996:
995:
994:
993:
992:
991:
990:
966:
965:
964:
963:
962:
961:
960:
959:
934:
933:
932:
931:
930:
929:
910:
909:
908:
907:
893:
888:In that case,
883:
882:
863:
862:
833:
823:
791:
790:
776:requested move
770:
768:
765:
764:
763:
762:
761:
760:
759:
758:
757:
756:
736:
718:
717:
716:
715:
714:
713:
712:
698:
687:
686:
685:
684:
683:
671:
652:
651:
599:
596:
593:
592:
589:
588:
585:
584:
581:
580:
579:
578:
571:
568:
561:
554:
543:
532:
522:
515:
506:
505:
500:
495:
490:
484:
481:
480:
472:
471:
465:
455:
454:
447:Mid-importance
443:
437:
436:
434:
417:the discussion
404:
403:
387:
375:
374:
365:Mid‑importance
359:
347:
346:
343:
342:
335:Mid-importance
331:
325:
324:
322:
305:the discussion
292:
291:
275:
263:
262:
260:Mid‑importance
254:
242:
241:
235:
224:
210:
209:
200:
198:
197:
194:
193:
181:
180:
118:
117:
113:
112:
107:
102:
93:
92:
90:
89:
82:
77:
68:
62:
60:
59:
48:
39:
38:
35:
34:
28:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1217:
1206:
1203:
1201:
1198:
1196:
1193:
1191:
1188:
1186:
1183:
1181:
1178:
1176:
1173:
1172:
1170:
1161:
1157:
1153:
1149:
1148:
1147:
1146:
1142:
1138:
1137:81.100.136.95
1133:
1125:
1124:
1121:
1115:
1103:
1101:
1096:
1091:
1086:
1085:
1081:
1077:
1073:
1069:
1068:WP:COMMONNAME
1064:
1060:
1056:
1053:
1050:
1046:
1042:
1038:
1031:
1029:
1025:
1021:
1018:-pushing. --
1017:
1014:and possibly
1013:
1009:
1006:
1005:
989:
985:
981:
976:
975:
974:
973:
972:
971:
970:
969:
968:
967:
958:
954:
950:
946:
942:
941:
940:
939:
938:
937:
936:
935:
928:
924:
920:
916:
915:
914:
913:
912:
911:
906:
902:
896:
891:
887:
886:
885:
884:
881:
877:
873:
869:
865:
864:
861:
857:
853:
849:
848:
847:
846:
842:
836:
831:
827:
822:
821:
818:
816:
811:
809:
802:
796:
789:
787:
782:
777:
772:
771:
754:
751:
750:
744:
740:
734:
730:
726:
725:
724:
723:
722:
721:
720:
719:
710:
706:
702:
697:
693:
692:
691:
690:
689:
688:
682:
679:
675:
669:
664:
660:
656:
655:
654:
653:
650:
647:
635:
634:
633:
631:
627:
623:
619:
606:
576:
572:
569:
566:
562:
559:
555:
552:
548:
544:
541:
537:
533:
531:
527:
523:
520:
516:
513:
509:
508:
504:
501:
499:
496:
494:
491:
489:
486:
485:
483:
482:
478:
477:
473:
470:
461:
457:
456:
452:
448:
442:
439:
438:
435:
418:
414:
410:
409:
401:
390:
388:
385:
381:
380:
376:
363:
360:
357:
353:
352:
340:
336:
330:
327:
326:
323:
306:
302:
298:
297:
289:
278:
276:
273:
269:
268:
264:
258:
255:
252:
248:
247:
243:
239:
233:
225:
221:
216:
215:
196:
195:
192:
189:
187:
183:
182:
177:
173:
170:
167:
163:
159:
155:
152:
149:
146:
143:
140:
137:
134:
131:
127:
124:
123:Find sources:
120:
119:
111:
110:Verifiability
108:
106:
103:
101:
98:
97:
96:
87:
83:
81:
78:
76:
72:
69:
67:
64:
63:
57:
53:
52:Learn to edit
49:
46:
41:
40:
37:
36:
32:
26:
22:
18:
17:
1134:
1131:
1112:
1094:
1087:
1054:
1041:87.79.223.92
1035:— Preceding
1007:
867:
824:
814:
807:
794:
792:
780:
773:
752:
748:
746:
732:
708:
707:09:32 &
616:— Preceding
612:
446:
406:
334:
294:
238:WikiProjects
184:
171:
165:
157:
150:
144:
138:
132:
122:
94:
19:This is the
1100:move review
786:move review
575:New Eskaton
528:, it needs
228:Start-class
148:free images
31:not a forum
1169:Categories
1072:Worldbruce
900:reply here
840:reply here
551:discussion
540:discussion
536:Bangladesh
422:Bangladesh
413:Bangladesh
362:Bangladesh
1063:Kautilya3
1020:Kautilya3
949:Kevin McE
795:not moved
524:Clean up
517:Clean up
88:if needed
71:Be polite
21:talk page
1152:AnonMoos
1109:Epilogue
1037:unsigned
1002:Comments
980:AnonMoos
919:AnonMoos
872:AnonMoos
729:I nodded
618:unsigned
558:Bengalis
556:Improve
545:Improve
534:Improve
310:Pakistan
301:Pakistan
257:Pakistan
186:Archives
56:get help
29:This is
27:article.
815:Warrior
696:nodded
493:history
449:on the
337:on the
154:WPÂ refs
142:scholar
1119:Aditya
1055:Oppose
1016:WP:POV
1008:Oppose
668:pedant
663:nodded
234:scale.
126:Google
1116:. :D
1012:WP:OR
753:11:10
739:Jerzy
701:Jerzy
674:Jerzy
503:purge
498:watch
169:JSTOR
130:books
84:Seek
1156:talk
1141:talk
1076:talk
1070:. --
1061:and
1045:talk
1024:talk
984:talk
953:talk
923:talk
876:talk
868:from
856:talk
626:talk
604:edit
530:NPOV
488:edit
162:FENS
136:news
73:and
1092:.
1057:As
947:.
808:Sky
745:10:
733:try
709::37
641:noh
639:Fei
441:Mid
329:Mid
176:TWL
1171::
1158:)
1143:)
1078:)
1047:)
1026:)
986:)
955:)
925:)
878:)
858:)
828:→
797:.
778:.
749:59
747:29
737:--
699:--
672:--
628:)
156:)
54:;
1154:(
1139:(
1074:(
1043:(
1022:(
982:(
951:(
921:(
897:|
874:(
854:(
837:|
803:)
799:(
743:t
741:•
705:t
703:•
678:t
676:•
644:a
624:(
608:]
577:.
567:.
553:)
542:)
453:.
341:.
240::
191:1
188::
172:·
166:·
158:·
151:·
145:·
139:·
133:·
128:(
58:.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.
