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translate it better). That is a dance Romans already said old Astures (B.C.) use to dance : all of the dancers forming a circle and taking the next person's pinky finger. While they dance they sing simple melodies with a main singer singing first an the rest of the people repiting his verses like a choir. This is an alive tradition, specially in Saint John's day when people make big bonfires and dance the "danza prima" aroung the fire to celebrate the solstice. That is just an example.
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romantic invention. However, it is worth noting a) that much Galician and Asturian traditional music is dominated by bagpipes, and b) that much modern Galician folk and folk-rock is strongly influenced by Irish traditions. Certainly, Galicia is nowadays a strong player on the international Celtic folk scene; and as a result, elements of the pre-industrial Galician tradition have entered the modern Celtic folk repertoire and style.
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As a side note, Galician and Asturian music (not Cantabrian) sure have Celtic influence (especially since recent times), but they are not Celtic by any means. They have Celtic influences, of course, but their roots don't actually come from ancient Gallaeci or Astures. And I am not a "southern Spanish
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because Galicia can discover its history and the old history, much older than Spain, Galicia if it is Celtic, Galicia was one of the ancient Celtic world countries, many scholars believe is the oldest and the origin of the Celtic culture, Many people complain of Galician nationalism but worse Spanish
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a) Just Galician and Asturian music (in order of importance as a region), or Asturian and Galician music (alphabetically) b) If you really want to keep Cantabrian music in, at least rename the article to "Galician, Asturian and Cantabrian music" (in importance, relation and geographical order -the
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This article suggests that the traditional music of Galicia is “Celtic”, implying affinity with the traditional musics of Scotland and Ireland. Readers should be aware that most scholars are likely to consider this poppycock. Galicia is not in any real sense “Celtic”, and its traditional music (as
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I can see a deep ideological tension running through this article. The result is confusing and quite poor. Also it seems to be mainly about Galician music, where Asturian music is like a footnote to it. They do not even mention the Asturian "First Dance" ("danza prima" sorry, I do not know how to
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The traditional musics of the northwest Spanish regions of Galicia, Asturias and Cantabria are not really “Celtic” in any strong sense: in fact, these musics are most closely related to the other traditions of Castille and northern Portugal, and their “celticness” is in large measure a latter-day
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Sep 3, 2004 - Dear Tuf-Kat... I don't really think you've made this any clearer; I think you've just restated your "Celtic origins" theory, which in my view is unfounded, a sort of modern myth closely associated with Galician nationalism (with which I have no problem per se). I would suggest the
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So, the article says that "It is also possible to close the thumb hole with the little finger of the right hand, thus creating a semitone below the tonic." As a piper, I assume the author meant to say tone hole (the lowest holes on the chanter, not used outside of
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nationalism that has erased the history of Galicia and especially denied (as the Kingdom of Galicia), They even have hit all kinds, including the recovery of the Galician Celtic language of Galicia, everything bothers them especially the Spanish and Asturian
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I know this article as a whole doesn't do much sense at all in the first place; it would be simplier to have separate articles for Galician and Asturian music. But if you want to keep this article like it is, at least do some of the following things:
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Cantabria is the one which has less in Common. Until 1975, Cantabria was Castile. It was just separated from Castile because it was quite difficult to make such a big administrative region. But Cantabria is more Castillian than Leon.
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I wrote some more interesting information, curiosly avoided when talking about celtic influences. I cannot understand why other peoples of Spain insist in denying some parts of galician history. I'm sorry I forgot signing in my last
854:-Renaming it. Galician and Asturian music are kinda similar in lots of ways, but Cantabrian is not, really. So I kinda see why you grouped Asturian and Galician music in the same article, but Cantabrian is kinda odd; 194:(music performed in Spanish, Portuguese and the languages of Ibero-America, see project scope for more details) on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join 787:
Why is the same as LeĂłn? Leons music has much in common with Asturias musics, and in some parts (bierzo) with galician Music. Leon and Asturies even share its ancient language (asturleones)!!
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Delisted from Good Articles because it's very insufficiently referenced and missing a lot of important information (essentially nothing not about a subset of folk music).
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nationalist demon" or something. I'm from there, I love our music, I love when our music appears in Celtic festivals in Brittany or New York, but it is what it is.
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opposed to modern folk-pop music) is much more fundamentally related to that of other parts of northern Iberia than to that of Ireland, Scotland and Brittany.
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With all respects for Cantabrians, their music shouldn't appear in the group of Galician and Asturian music, because it's note the same thing.
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one with most sense-) or "Asturian, Cantabrian and Galician music" (alphabetically). I don't get at all why tf is Cantabrian in the middle.
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Northern Portugal was part of Galicia and also was Celtic, Asturias was not Celtic Galicia who was radiating its culture (and proven)
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Where is the original article about the Galician Music? , Spaniards and Asturian always crushing Galician past and its culture.
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Mentioning Castile's music among the Galician and Asturian ones is a great mistake. And it is not true. Same with LeĂłn.
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Galicia is the most ancient Celtic sites in the world, what scholars are saying (Galicia is celtic, but not Spain)
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Please, can anybody justify this? It sounds as whimsical as the Celtic theories.
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http://celticmythpodshow.com/blog/rebirth-of-the-gallaic-goidelic-language/
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Well, you can't start an article be explaining what the subject is
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you can't start an article by explaining what the subject is
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following wording for the first paragraph of this article...
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I think I have made this more clear. Remember, you can
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