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290:, but it also occurs to me that there is a certain non-transitivity (if that's the right word) about these relationships that argues against a strict adherence to it. It seems to me that, in some cases, act A is intrinsically linked to act B, but that act A is of minor significance to act B. So, to put it another way, you can't tell the story of Asia, I suggest, without the context of the story of Yes, but you can tell the story of Yes without much mention of Asia. One is more important to the other than 22: 71: 53: 178:
this navbox to those articles. In some cases, it would seem to me more sensible to do that. In particular, I feel that the close connection between GPS and Asia (GPS being a continuation under a new name of Asia by 3 out of 4 members) means it would be sensible to include it here and this navbox
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The problem is if you start including everything remotely connected to the band you end up with navbox bloat here and "candystriping" of navboxes on the articles. Articles should only be included if they are intrinsically linked to / inseparable from the topic of the navbox. So yeah, you're
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I concur that navbox bloat is a problem. I personally feel that there is that intrinsic link with GPS/Qango and Asia, and with Roger Dean and Yes (but maybe, maybe not Asia). I also agree that the ELP/Asia link is of a lesser degree and I'm content to see ELP out of the Asia template, and
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there. The connection between GPS and Asia is of a similar magnitude to that between Asia and Qango (evolved from a failed Asia reunion project, with 3 out of 4 members having previously been in Asia), which is included.
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Looking at similar navboxes in Category:Progressive rock group navigational boxes, I note that most of them include lists of related bands similar to the inclusion here of acts like Yes and GTR.
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says, basically, is "every article linked in the navbox should have the template transcluded." As this navbox is not on those article's pages, Robsinden has removed them from this navbox.
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from the navbox. I don't see why it is "not appropriate" to include Matthews and Dean, both artists with long-standing close relationships with Asia. I note, as a comparison, that
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Robsinden also argues, "It's really not appropriate to include artists, so I've removed the template from Matthews' page" and s/he's removed
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I get the point, but as I understand the mechanics and intentions behind navboxes, you should expect to see the
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navbox at the destination - i.e. it shouldn't leave you stranded without a means of getting back home. --
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probably right to include GPS / Qango, but not Yes or ELP, as they are of a different magnitude. --
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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has removed a number of items from the "related articles" of this navbox, viz.
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includes Asia in its list of related bands, for example, as does
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However, obviously, there's an alternative approach, which is to
82:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 357: 342:. I've removed the red link from the template. 32:does not require a rating on Knowledge's 366:Template-Class Progressive rock articles 371:NA-importance Progressive rock articles 223:Thoughts from others would be welcome. 358: 96:Knowledge:WikiProject Progressive Rock 99:Template:WikiProject Progressive Rock 76:This template is within the scope of 21: 19: 15: 38:It is of interest to the following 13: 14: 382: 69: 51: 20: 334:Link to deleted portal removed 286:I understand the logic behind 242:. That seems uncontroversial. 121:What should be in the template 1: 90:and see a list of open tasks. 322:16:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC) 304:16:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC) 274:16:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC) 252:16:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC) 238:I have added this navbox to 233:16:05, 31 January 2014 (UTC) 79:WikiProject Progressive Rock 7: 338:The Asia (band) portal was 10: 387: 142:Emerson, Lake & Palmer 102:Progressive rock articles 64: 46: 352:07:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC) 199:Template:King Crimson 215:Template:Yes (band) 184:Template:Yes (band) 34:content assessment 262: 118: 117: 114: 113: 110: 109: 378: 340:recently deleted 288:WP:BIDIRECTIONAL 256: 201:includes artist 169:WP:BIDIRECTIONAL 162:WP:BIDIRECTIONAL 160:on the basis of 104: 103: 100: 97: 94: 93:Progressive Rock 84:Progressive rock 73: 66: 65: 59:Progressive Rock 55: 48: 47: 25: 24: 23: 16: 386: 385: 381: 380: 379: 377: 376: 375: 356: 355: 344:BlackcurrantTea 336: 195:Rodney Matthews 123: 101: 98: 95: 92: 91: 12: 11: 5: 384: 374: 373: 368: 335: 332: 331: 330: 329: 328: 327: 326: 325: 324: 284: 220:include Dean. 126:User:Robsinden 122: 119: 116: 115: 112: 111: 108: 107: 105: 88:the discussion 74: 62: 61: 56: 44: 43: 37: 26: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 383: 372: 369: 367: 364: 363: 361: 354: 353: 349: 345: 341: 323: 319: 315: 311: 307: 306: 305: 301: 297: 293: 289: 285: 282: 277: 276: 275: 271: 267: 260: 259:edit conflict 255: 254: 253: 249: 245: 241: 237: 236: 235: 234: 230: 226: 221: 219: 216: 212: 208: 207:Template:Rush 204: 200: 196: 191: 189: 185: 180: 177: 172: 170: 165: 163: 159: 155: 151: 147: 143: 139: 135: 131: 127: 106: 89: 85: 81: 80: 75: 72: 68: 67: 63: 60: 57: 54: 50: 49: 45: 41: 35: 31: 27: 18: 17: 337: 309: 291: 280: 222: 217: 192: 188:Template:ELP 181: 175: 173: 166: 138:King Crimson 124: 77: 40:WikiProjects 29: 213:, although 203:P. J. Crook 150:The Buggles 360:Categories 314:Rob Sinden 296:Bondegezou 292:vice versa 281:vice versa 266:Rob Sinden 244:Bondegezou 225:Bondegezou 158:Roger Dean 211:Hugh Syme 209:includes 30:template 218:doesn't 36:scale. 167:What 28:This 348:talk 318:talk 310:same 300:talk 270:talk 248:talk 229:talk 205:and 156:and 240:GPS 176:add 154:GTR 134:GPS 130:Yes 362:: 350:) 320:) 302:) 272:) 250:) 231:) 190:. 164:. 152:, 148:, 146:UK 144:, 140:, 136:, 132:, 346:( 316:( 298:( 268:( 261:) 257:( 246:( 227:( 42::

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King Crimson
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Hugh Syme
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