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and is now joint with Arabs, Ramot Eshcol changed its population from secular and modern orthodox to ultra orthodox. You cannot ether classify neighborhoods by their original population because many of them were originally established as towns and villages thousands of years ago, by populations that are no longer around or are unknown.
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Stating that something exists does not condone its existence. This is a geographical navbox, not a statement of international politics. I'm not sure that the request for sources is particularly useful either, unless there is reason to believe some of these neighbourhoods do not exist - and even then
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What were the sources for this template? Are there official lists of districts for
Jerusalem? Sources should be differenciated for west Jerusalem, which has been part of Israel since 1948, and east Jerusalem, which was occupied by Israel in 1967 and later annexed; the annexation was never recognised
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Well, besides some mistakes (e.g., there are many more joined neighborhoods) there is a problem with classifying a neighborhood by its current resident’s ethnicity, because the population constantly changes. Examples: Talbia was built by Arabs and is now Jewish, the French Hill was built by the Jews
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for what it's worth, here is my take: there is sometimes a difference in jerusalem between "east" and other compass directions. if one is referring to actual compass directions, then, yes, gilo and talpiot are in the southern part of jerusalem (see a map). when "east" is used to convey a political
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As I see it, there are a few ways to go with this. 1. Go back to purely alphabetical.(booooring) 2. Follow the method of the Hebrew version which tries to be an entire article on the history and politics of
Jerusalem.(please, please, please, let's not duplicate that monstrosity) 3. Continue
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Would it be useful to separate the neighborhoods of
Jerusalem into predominantly Jewish and predominantly Arab neighborhoods separately? I anticipate this might be a controversial idea, so I'll wait for input, but I'd like to play around with it and see if I can create a draft template. The
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The template started out in 2007 as a simple (naive) alphabetical listing. In Aug 2011, "TheCuriousGnome" opened a can of worms by subdividing the template into a weird combination of geographic, ethnic political and religious sections. But it was never quite right. Some Jewish and Arab
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i have no problem with a 100% geographical one, and for all of those who will object and want to fight the POV, maybe we put an asterisk in the title with a note saying something like "This division is 100% geographical and does not take into account anything else at
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term, as in "east jerusalem", they are referring to anything over the 1967 armistice line (the green line). they are two very different things - one is pure geography, and one is geography mixed with realpolitics... such is the reality in jerusalem.
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it is extremely insignificant and small (1 supermarket, 1/2 a boarding school, 1 retirement home, and maximum 15 apartment buildings, most of which are small). There is no wander that neither
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Kiryat Belz does exist although it has no article in Hebrew
Knowledge. May be the reason for having no article about it is that the people who know it well enough to write about it a ultra Orthodox who do not surf the net.
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neighborhoods over the green line are not in (the political division) East
Jerusalem but are included in geographic sections. And the last time I noticed, Ma'alot Dafna and Ramot Polin should be in the Haredi section.
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fighting a POV war with the current version.(there are more important battles to be fought than this one over a stupid template. 4. Go 100% geographical and leave the poltical discussions to actual articles.
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The navbox has been moved to and from the title you suggested in 2008, therefore I have reverted that change until a consensus can be formed on this page that a different title is - or isn't - needed.
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One can try sorting
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This is my idea to a first approximation. It would need checking to make sure that all neighborhoods are classified correctly.
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which has more neighborhoods than this template. The Hebrew edition of Knowledge has even more neighborhoods.
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Which area is that in? NESW? Can we also have a section for dati leumi?
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