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Hit upon this in a 1950s-era book but no idea what it means and no listing here. Probably deserves an entry, even if its to redirect. Online I did find "Pilot cutters carry a versatile gaff rig which is designed to give the vessel power and speed whilst arranged to be handled by an experienced crew
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Well, some things are still used in the present, but I don't come across them much in the subset of sailing (monohull small-sport-boat racing) that I engage in... things like mizzen mainsails, staysails, and gybe-preventers come to mind. So if you're going to subdivide, does it have to be based on
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I'd say no, because it's really pretty obscure, and since you only find them on i) large boats with ii) a bowsprit, I suspect very few of our readers are going to run into them. I'd suggest we limit it to common things that all sailing vessels
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I updated the template to make it clear that the groupings in the sail section refer to the number of sides each type of sail has. I'm not sure this categorization is useful, though, nor am I certain that all the sails are properly grouped.
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Of those I see 12 out of 18, two thirds of the total, as not in common parlance. Keep the obsolete, glory in being encyclopaedic, and expand the terms. If you think it important enough subdivide the box into "current" and "obsolete"
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overlap, but are not quite synonyms. The terms are often used in parallel. A cat rigged boat is a very different thing then the other "rigs." Trying to fit this into the mesh of little boxes on a shelf ain't easy.
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in tightening the shrouds of old sailing vessels, I'm drawing a blank on their name here momentarily), and we simply can't include them all. We should stick to the ones people are likely to run across in common usage.
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