534:(And, by the way, that lower case I and J share the dot, bcz (i've observed and/or heard or read that) I and J are variations on a single letter (in a language that didn't make a distinction between an "ee" or an "aye" phoneme), and the Y-like consonantal sound you end up hearing when someone draws out "ee" or "aye" long enuf, and then slides into a following vowel, as in ee-aye-(y)ee-(y)o. And is it mere coincidence that I and J are not distinguished in ancient Roman jnscriptjons, and that the Latin alpha-beta didn't distinguish U from V, nor have a W, but the name of W is pronounced "double ee-yoo" (or, in some languages a version of "doop'l-yoo") and the letter looks like "VV". And the W-like consonantal sound you end up hearing when someone draws outwhen someone draws out "oooo" long enuf, and then slides into a following vowel, as in ooo-(w)ee.
797:. A save in that sense may occur when an article appears to be not worth having, and further, to be incapable of being expanded into an article worth having. The save itself is the act of editing the article into something that changes the discussion on VfD from a strong consensus to delete into a decision to keep (hopefully at least a majority in favor of keeping); it either transforms it into a retention-worthy article, or proves that could be done by pointing the way there.)
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1134:. The following has, fairly, been described as a (nomination) "acceptance speech". It is probably more than you want to know about me, but that subject is not likely to be important enough here to justify creating a more efficient account. On the other hand, i've dressed up the links, mostly for their instructional value to newcomers to WP.
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more often as an admin than i presently do (and if i do, then you were warned ). Two policies come to mind in this regard; altho i think they need to be complied with (and altho i correct others' deviations from them), i consider them both bone-headed and look forward to the time when others agree
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I worked out the mechanism for generating the links to other LoPbN pages, that appear at the top of each page (and one of the two styles on the root page), and virtually all, maybe all, of the utilization of it has been my work. It eases effort and avoids clerical omissions that would likely break
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I have a notion (whatever the truth may be) that i've been an annoying burden on admins, before becoming one myself, and in effect begged for "more than my share" of assistance in doing page moves. So i especially welcome opportunities to repay my debt to previous admins by assisting future admins
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As of 07:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC), there are around 600 pages (not all of them listing any names); not only are there now great-grandchild pages, but 9 among them have child-pages, which are great-great-grandchildren of the root. This subdivision has been directed by crowding in specific parts of the
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When "Move this page" doesn't work, the problem is what is usually described as "trying to move a page to an existing page other than a redirect with no history". I won't say that description is wrong, but it occasionally is frustratingly unhelpful, and you don't need to waste time worrying about
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the within-tree link structure. (Unfortunately, it so far conflicts with the attractive box-oriented layout of the link structure that a colleague worked out and that will hopefully return as the software involved advances.)
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My understanding of an admin's mandatory responsibilities is "do no harm, or back off when you realize you did". I consider that a shockingly low standard, but that's the extent of the commitment i'd see myself as taking
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I may change my mind tomorrow, but today the following exchange seems to say something interesting about me, and perhaps even about the, uh, Knowledge process:
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American, and endlessly frustrating language.
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