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1809:. I've looked at the discussion. I should mention that I only became aware of the discussion this month, but had I been aware of this nomination there would have been two against the deletion. My concerns with the deletion are basically twofold: 1. I don't think that those suggesting the deletion have backed up their claim with reference to the relevant sections of Knowledge, or have cited Knowledge policies which are demonstrably not relevant. For instance, one objector claims that Lonsdale fails both WP:ENT and WP:PROF. This is quite mystifying, given that Lonsdale is neither an entertainer nor an academic. The same objector suggests that the article fails WP:GNG, although does not point to the specific part of that policy which he/she believe that the article supposedly fails. 2. By contrast, I believe any reasonable observer would see that the article does satisfy the threshold test as set down in WP:N, and in particular item 6 'Notable topics have attracted attention over a sufficiently significant period of time'. The policy goes on to state: "sustained coverage is an indicator of notability". I think there is objective evidence of sustained coverage, in that Lonsdale has been interviewed by numerous media outlets, in a number of countries, over a number of decades. These media outlets include the ABC and established current affairs programmes. Now, it does happen to be the case that Lonsdale is a controversial character - I don't know if this is an influencing factor in the deletion claims. I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case, but I'm just flagging this. In summary, I think it is important that decisions such as deletion be based on Knowledge policies, and that those advocating deletion should point not merely to relevant Knowledge policies, but to the relevant parts of the policies, to support the claims to deletion. I don't think this happened in this case, and thus I think there is a strong case the deletion should be reversed. Look forward to hearing from you on this. 1914: 1771:. I can see you have marked it as advertisement and I can assure you that I have no affiliation with this company. One of the reason for this page because in recent times it got lots of press coverage from independent sources. From the sources 'newspaper' in India google don't have this source it only works with news.google.com. You can try with searching other reputed organisation with newspaper source (site:news.google.com/newspapers). I'm understanding your point that it looks like a advertisement because of history section but it is not true that it is promotional stuff and recently Govt. of India tie up with this company for promoting 'Indian Handloom'. 2292:
Hispanic Caucus, and at the age of 21 already had been a delegate to two Democratic National Conventions, an accomplishment I doubt more than a handful of Americans have achieved. I've also discovered that he appeared in the credits as an actor in a Disney made-for-TV movie, an aspect of his life that I'd not discovered before. He, along with Julio Cabral Corrada, whose article I've just updated to note his creation of Puerto Rico Rising, which has played a significant role in channeling disaster relief by mainland-based Puerto Rican millenials, are young leaders in PR that are being recognized, read and followed by their peers as well as by their elders.
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subscribers on his gaming channel. More importantly though, he has been named by TIME as one of the world's top 10 'Next Generation Leaders' alongside The Weekend and Hasan Minhaj. It is in my opinion impossible to disregard such a person as the TIME magazine is highly regarded and even leaders of countries are not guaranteed a spot in one of their articles or lists.
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I appreciate you changing it but this was a straight-cut delete, There wasn't any consensus to keep whatsoever (nor did it reach a no consensus outcome) and no one could reply because they didn't have an actual reason - They just saw her on tv and they wanted it kept purely for that reason, As I said
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Hey, Dave and Chuck "The Freak" might have been irrelevant at the time of deletion but they just recently expanded their listening audience to a second market by syndicating in Boston, which expanded their listening audience to Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts. If deletion is reversed I
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the article. Beyond that, interested editors are welcome to edit it as they feel best, including merging/redirecting. The AfD did not bind the article in its current form--it was merely pointed out that there was no agreement that it needed to go, and several people thought redirect/merge was a good
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here too it has only google links as sources. What would i generally suggest is, rather deleting the articles, it would be better if we fine tune and make it as the best one. This will also boost the wiki users to write more articles in a proper way and also we can have some good articles on wiki. I
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Hello Joyous! Please see the Bimlesh Adhikari article. All the information are true and he has given contribution as a model as he has done more than hundreds of music videoss in Nepal as well as he has done 4 movies ... couple of them are included as reference from youtube... if you doubt he is not
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Honestly, I'm reluctant to change the stated decision after the AFD has closed, based on a request like this, because I think it sets a bad precedent. I actually think that the "keeps" and the "redirect/merges" suggest that there is some quality material in the article that we don't want to lose. If
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My request for advice to you is, for example, in the Kevin McClintock, when is the notability separate from being the offspring of notable parents achieved to trigger me to prepare another article reflecting his subsequent accomplishments (young columnist, national leadership positions amount young
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Please reverse your deletion of Gammadyne Mailer. There has not been enough time for a discussion on the deletion. No one in the current discussion has been in favor of deletion. And for what it's worth, I do not think this article should be deleted. There are many articles on software. If you
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I would like you to suggest a solution for this instead of deletion. . I would like to know which sources do you think are ok, in general, any user who is willing to contribute in wiki will depend upon the news sources considering that news sources will be reliable. I believe news published in the
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Hi Joyous. So I thought the DRV was for admins only so I didn't consider contacting people from the AFD. Would it help at the DRV if I ask the people who voted for delete if they would consider changing their votes to redirect instead and linking their response there? Or should I just wait and see
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I've recently been reviewing a few of my deleted articles, including Kevin McClintock. Since your deletion, the subject has become the youngest or one of the youngest columnists for El Nuevo Día, Puerto Rico's oldest and most influential newspaper. He's been elected national president of YDA's
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Hi Joyous, This is regarding the deletion of Freshdesk Page. I see that you deleted the page. I mentioned my query in the deletion discussion page and i didnt get any response for that, it would have been better, if you would have replied for that and deleted this so atleast i would have got an
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I request you to recreate the page on CarryMinati. Even though he did not have a significant YouTube presence at the time of deletion, a significant amount of time has elapsed since then. Ajey Nagar aka CarryMinati has gone on to amass 6,877,983 subscribers on his primary channel and 2,108,678
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The radio morning show Dave and Chuck "The Freak" is a national show, in two different markets and also online ability to listen anywhere. Can this be undeleted? A few years ago I spent many hours and weeks editing this page with many news sources and I was hurt to see it deleted months ago.
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Thank you for the closing the discussion as keep. It really feels good for ones work to outlive an AfD. I would like to know if you can help by providing insights from your long experience on Knowledge on how one can become a better editor. I'd like to be mentored, watched and corrected-when
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Hi there! As I see it, there are suggestions to redirect/merge, but there are just as many keeps/deletes with equally valid reasoning. As I understand it, "no consensus" doesn't mean that the article must be kept as-is. I believe you are free to merge and redirect to your heart's content.
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Yes, I saw that, and agonized a bit. There are just enough good edits mixed in with the trash that I didn't want to go forever with it. I have them watchlisted, so if they come back with vandal-guns a'blazing, I'll do an extended block. Perhaps I'm getting soft in my old age.  :-)
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My view of closing the AfD was helping decide whether or not the article should be deleted. Obviously, it should not, based on the comments from various editors. Beyond that, whether or not the article should stand by itself or should be merged is more appropriately handled at the
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can easily add national articles right off the bat and trim out the fan service to make it more fact based and make sure everything is cited. The national expansion of their listening audience alone has to warrant some kind of probation for the page so it can be improved upon.
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reliable news websites will be of proper one and generally people believe those sources are from the reputed news sources. Whenever i write any article, i always consider other wiki pages for references. Do you think are the sources mentioned in this wiki pages are reliable?
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I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to change to a delete decision. I won't object if you would like to open a deletion review on the decision. I have no dog in the fight--I'm just interpreting the discussion differently than you. Perhaps I'll learn something. :-)
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FYI that it's inclusion in a rename discussion caused it's recreation by a bot. I've removed it from that discussion and tagged it as G4 in case you don't get around to redeleting it, but thought I should also leave a note here since you were the closing admin.
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If I ask the users who voted delete if they would consider a redirect merge, could you change it from no consensus to redirect/merge? I believe the deletes and redirect/merge votes together gives the overall impression this article should go. Thanks
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Hello again! There's really no need to contact people who voted in the AfD. The article is free to edit now! Please, merge to your heart's content! If you want to talk about the merge and how best to do it, the discussion should take place on the
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D instead of closed as No Consensus so would you be open to overturning your close to SOFTDELETE? (there's an option I think where when you delete it you can click on something that says something like "if you want this undeleted go to
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The best advice I have is: to become a better editor, read and edit. I would suggest finding topics that you are interested in that are already articles, and make them better, before you worry too much about adding new articles.
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page. I lack any sort of history with that page. Feel free to conduct a straw poll there. I'll be glad to add a "strong suggestion to merge" to my closing statement, but I'm not willing to say that merging is what MUST happen.
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necessary by you. I don't know if I'm asking too much but going through your contributions make me feel willing to do my little bit. And your User page says you've been since 2004! Wow!, before I even entered high school!
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you'd like to ask for a deletion review, my feelings won't be hurt. In fact, I'm right there with you in thinking handling the article that way is a good idea--I just didn't see enough consensus to close that way.
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Hello Joyous. Part of the process for requesting a review of a deletion decision is that the requester must first contact the person who deleted the article. Thus I am now contacting you regarding this deletion:
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Hey there the page of this youtuber (protected for vandalism) was deleted long time ago when he had 330k subs. Now He has amassed over 7 million and that's not a joke😊. So please reconsider unlocking it
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I'm sorry, but I won't be able to re-create the page. The subject of the article has been reviewed by other editors several times, and it was decided that he does not meet our inclusion criteria.
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Would love to make edits if you feel it is looking more of advertisement rather than informational piece of content. Your insights are really helpful and I'd like to make necessary changes to it.
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answer for my query. Can you guide me on how the resources should be because whenever i write any articles, i take reference of other wikipedia articles . for example i took these as references,
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Just a brief reminder of my request last December (as above) for you to review your deletion decision. Look forward to your decision, and also your response to the issues raised above.
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a actor you may view those youtube links which i have given in the references but please let this article be in wikipedia. Hope you understand and hoping for your positive response.
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Hi. I'd like to argue that the AFD's consensus is closer towards redirect/merge, than no consensus. I'd like to discuss this before considering a deletion review. Thanks.
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Hi Joyous. I was doing a straw vote and was told no consensus means it automatically defaults to keep. It appears I won't be allowed to redirect the page after all.
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system. It must have sprung up during the years that I was mostly off-Wiki. I'll go ahead and create the redirect. The rest of the merging process is listed at
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Hi Joyous! please see the references of Afshin Nasseri article, I think they are genuine...please specify the reason and help me to create this page again....
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article page to the author's article. I am guessing the next step is to change the page to a redirect, but I wasn't sure if there was any special messaging or
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was just created since i had no permission to create the previous page. I am removing the content in the new page so that the previous page is restored.
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hello Joyous! please see the references of Bimlesh Adhikari article they are genuine...please specify the reason and you can help me create this page..
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the person has his own identity and needs to be on wikipedia for the only purpose I created his article not for him but for the shows he has Written
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I also updated all the links in articles and a file summary. Since I think in all cases they also mentioned Chuculate, I just removed the links for
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is blocked for some reason but I want to create it with good content .I will make sure the vandalism doesn’t take place so please let me make it.
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as there was no consensus to keep and not one person was able to support their keep !vote with any sources, 2 out of the 3 keeps were more or less
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as "delete", but the article was not deleted. Can you please undo your AfD closure for that article and then redo the closure correctly?
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Thank you for the heads-up. Not sure what happened there. Perhaps I reloaded the page before it was finished with the delete process.
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Sure. I wavered back and forth between SOFTDELETE and NO CONSENSUS for quite a while on this one, so it's not much of a mind-change.
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not one person could provide any reliable sources (because there is none) so I'd ask if you would kindly reopen it, Thanks, –
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And I've replied there. We'll see if this doesn't go down in wiki-history as one of the friendliest deletion reviews ever.
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Thank you for the heads-up! I appreciate it! I've re-deleted the article. Feel free to let me know if it sneaks back.
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December 2016 (UTC)Hi, is it possible to see what the former Afterburner page looked like?
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If you're not up for overturning I'll just renominate but thought I'd ask first :),
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in this wiki article, i see the sources are from only google. Also the same over here
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This page is all self-promotion and not an example of a notable biography.
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Wow. This is embarrassing to confess, but I'm not familiar with the whole
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Hi Joyous!, I'm not sure if you're aware but there's a huge discussion at
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Hello . Please I would like to create Knowledge page of Bimlesh Adhikari
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Closing changed to "No consensus." That's as far as I feel I can go.
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No worries, just letting you know in case if you missed it! ;-)
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This is the link to the page that I have requested you to reinstate
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