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use this as an opportunity to ask about something that come up while I was gathering sources. Are you aware of any recent publications which would mention a supposed Egyptian deity named Keserty; Izak Cornelius, who is generally credible and pretty meticulous, mentions him in his Resheph/Baal iconography monograph (I've included the reference in the Resheph article, in the iconography section of "Egyptian reception"), and states that he is analogous to Kothar-wa-Khasis, but the figure is virtually absent from scholarship otherwise save for some articles which seem... dated. Jstor gave me 2 results, De Gruyter and Brill nothing, I'm also not seeing anything in dictionaries I have access to. There aren't many publications focused on Kothar but so far I found nothing there either. Supposedly the Kothar claim goes back to a 1972 article,

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than just the Astarte papyrus, that papyrus is the only one he refers to specifically. His last sentence is "Unserved by any Egyptian cult, he may nevertheless been a god known and feared by Egyptian seafarers." I can't track down any specifics in any other sources; Tazawa, e.g., doesn't mention Yam at all. Because the sources treat Yam as a deity on the periphery of the Egyptian pantheon, I think he can be categorized as an Egyptian deity, as long as his article makes it clear that he didn't have much of a presence in Egypt.

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with similar changes applied as in the Astarte papyrus; I still need to locate it in the prepared bibliography, though. Yam has surprisingly a lot of literature dedicated to him for a deity whose cultic importance even "at home" in Ugarit wasn't that big (~10-15 theophoric names, compared to popular deities' 60-200+, few offerings). I have about as many sources prepared as for Resheph, who has a longer history, broader distribution and was more popular. I guess appearing in myths helps.

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to work at putting all the references in Harvard form, I wondered if you would do a peer review of the content. I ask specifically because I have found those who hold contrary views to mine are more likely to see flaws, and I want those found. I would like this article's class to reflect its importance, and for that I need your help. Please come and be as excessively critical as you can be!

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itself, where the claim about Wer was originally added without any source at all. If Knowledge used sources like this, any misinformation that made its way into a Knowledge article could perpetuate itself forever. That's why our sourcing standards exist, and if you can't adapt to those standards, you'd be better off spending your time and energy elsewhere.

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A sizable proportion of DAFT actually comes from articles that were either created in good faith, or so context-free that it was hard to even tell why they were created. A lot of the really old titles listed there were vandalism, yes, but adding new ones is discouraged for reasons based in the page's

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Reviewing for the FA and GA processes always intimidates me a bit, because I feel like I should be going over everything in an article before issuing a "yea" verdict. I won't be doing much reviewing of that kind in the next year and a half, because I have about three off-wiki projects that I'm hoping

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I also wanted to thank you again for the help with the Baalat Gebal situation, I will work on her article this weekend. In her case I do not think the Egyptian deity label warrants discussion, seeing as there is plentiful evidence for Egyptian involvement in her cult from between Old and New Kingdom,

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created his SVG artwork depicting the key traits of each deity's iconography. But he always made an effort to base those images on genuine ancient artwork (primarily the tombs of Horemheb, Ramesses I, and Nefertari, where the artwork is high quality but copyright-free photos are hard to come by). If

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which is since April 16th. The article has received 3 extensive reviews with supports and has passed the image review but is still lacking a source review. I was wondering if you would consider sparing some time to do this review ? I believe that such a review would not be too demanding as most (if

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Seems there is genuinely not much more on Keserty than I was able to find. Evidently his existence is not enough to apply the Egyptian label to Kothar, then, which I will bear in mind when I reach that article. At the moment it does have an unsourced assertion about him having a role in Egypt, which

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has passed the first wicket and is now a GA article. I thought you would be glad, since your persistence in dealing with me in the face of my kicking and screaming 'no, leave it all in', and your advice on building an enhanced narrative, and separating out detail, is part of what did it. I listened

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I'm glad to have been of help. I know I can be a tough critic, but I have a lot of respect for your efforts in tackling the topics. Editors who have both the subject-matter expertise and the gumption to fix up articles on broad topics are rare. Knowledge needs editors like you, whether or not their

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Thank you! Bless you. I am in the process of making sure the refs are all perfect, so I had another friend who only does reference fixes go through it as well. He found some without page numbers, so I am fixing those. He had one that referenced a back cover of a book, and because of you, I now know

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Okay, so almost exactly a year ago you failed my GAN of Bible for making one mistake - out of ignorance and not carelessness - on one reference. It has made me more extremely careful ever since, so thank you. I have now completed a redo of History of Christianity, and while another friend is going

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Just wanted to drop by and say a wholehearted thank you for taking the time to give such a thorough review of TT8. I'm a big fan of your work and aspire to achieve the same quality in my editing. Your review and feedback were exactly as precise and thoughtful as I expected. Having someone with your

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A second question is more loosely related, but I wanted to ask how would you approach the case of Yam when it comes to applying the "Egyptian god" categorization. He's evidently attested in Egypt, Egyptians were aware of his character and even his connections to other deities, but so far I can find

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a while ago and allowed me to write you in case I improve the article. I have not worked on the article much again, but have another one I spend a lot of time with. I am in good faith, this one is doing muhc better. If you have time and interest, I would be glad to receive a review. The article is

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I have actually been out of town and working on an article that I thought was GA ready that turns out it wasn't and demanded immediate attention. At any rate, here, I would like to begin with your informal input first if that's okay with you. I will be grateful for whatever time you have. Thanx up

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I can supply multiple sources saying that "Hor-Wer" simply means "Horus the Elder". As you have been told more than once, the source that you're using does not meet Knowledge's standards of reliability. The passage in the source that talks about "Wer" was probably copied from the Knowledge article

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Thank you very much. That is about the same conclusion as I reached regarding Yam. I'm 90% sure there is a second direct reference, but the context was similar. If my memory serves me well, it was a passage, probably in a medical papyrus, which recounts the events of the imported Yam vs Baal myth,

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by George Hart) both have short entries about him. Wilkinson says Yam "was known also in Egypt as a minor foreign god" and "In Canaanite sources was defeated by the god Baal, and in Egyptian sources by Seth with whom Baal was identified." But although he makes it sound like there are more sources

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I promised a few months ago (save for the Bible section, where I just left most as is because it is not really my forte, as I must admit). I really should've done this earlier, there were leftovers of the weird original research/vandalism spree which happened in August - my bad. I figured I should

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Certainly. Unfortunately, the Knowledge email system doesn't allow attachments, so for me to send you the page will require one more step than it should. You'll have to send me an email via the Knowledge system, so that my email account will receive the message from your email address. Then I can

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I know I haven't talked to you much lately; I wanted to express my sympathy about your health problems but didn't really know what to say. But while you're here, I want to express how helpful it's been to know that you were available as backup when dealing with fringe nonsense, and especially how

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Anything you find, anything at all, check whatever, all that you can stand as long as you can stand it. I will be grateful for any and all input of any kind. This is a very long article even though it only hits the expected things, and in no real depth, but still - 2000 years you know? Thank you

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Wow, that long? How time flies.😀 Thanks for your comments. I should have some idea by the end of next week about what lies ahead. Cancer still in my liver despite the major op and in a lung. I doubt they’ll want to operate so it will be chemo. I’m rebuilding my strength, hampered by calf muscle

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DAFT is really a relic of an early era of Wikipedian history, when behind-the-scenes clowning around was much more widespread and accepted. A lot of that extraneous tomfoolery has fallen by the wayside or been deleted for its irrelevance to the goals of the project. DAFT has survived because it

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I know, I know, it will help me understand better what actually qualifies as FA, so it's not time wasted, and even if it doesn't go FA, I have improved the encyclopedia by getting that particular article redone in a more encyclopedic manner. (Don't go look just in case you want to weigh in if I

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Our understanding of Egyptian mythology is based entirely on texts and not orality. Myths must have been transmitted orally to some extent, but that oral aspect is pretty much entirely conjectural. We don't have any record of how it worked or what was transmitted. So I really wouldn't have any

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I will be able to finish the Yam article next week most likely, which will leave me only with Ashtart as a major project on the crossroads of my usual ventures and Egyptology still to complete (I do not plan to tackle the Baal article, as it would require researching a lot of topics I have no

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Dear A. , I found a beautiful photo of yours of a graffiti done by the french scholars. I would like to use the image for research on graffiti 18 & 19th century. Just would like to double check if I am allowed to use the image, also what would you like me to write in the credit line.

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Sorry about the double message, but I finished Baalat Gebal, and moved on to Yam - I located all the attestations I thought of. According to Noga Ayali-Darshan, there are three references to combat between Yam and either Set or Baal outside Astarte Papyrus (it comes up a few times in

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to what you said, I did what you advised, it improved the article and has made me a better WP writer. It's so opposite to academic writing! I am learning with every article I work on and from every friend that helps me. I am in your debt forever. If you ever need anything, just ask.

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I put it up for peer review in preparation for FAC, and one reviewer said it didn't deserve GA, so I put it up for reassessment. You've been involved from early on, so if you could take a look at the current article and make a comment, it would be greatly appreciated.

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experience with and no interest in; Qetesh requires some cleanup but I do not think there is all that much to add). Thank you for all the consultations along the way, I didn't really expect I'll actually get that far when I first asked about these matters.

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Regarding Keserty, a search of my sources turns up two papers that I collected from JSTOR years ago (presumably the same as the two results you found) and another book by Cornelius. The two papers are "The Winged Reshep" (1979) by Alan R. Schulman in

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helpful you were in the days when I was a fumbling newbie trying to improve the article on ancient Egyptian religion without really knowing how. (Can you believe it's been 14 years since then?) Anyway, here's hoping you make a full recovery in 2023.

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I'm not doing this out of any desire to bully you. It's always unpleasant to be told you're mistaken—goodness knows I've been told that enough times—but I'm afraid you are mistaken in this case, and lashing out with personal attacks isn't going to

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I so far found no evidence for. I assume someone misinterpreted the fact that Ugartic literary texts place him in Memphis (but also Caphtor), which seems to be literary fiction and does not seem to reflect actual distribution of his cult centers.

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After extensive rewrites, I am here to humbly ask (beg) for you to please give this article another look - especially the Middle Ages sections - with an eye toward FA standards. I need your know-how. Thank you for all you have done.

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Can we exchange email accounts or perhaps some other means of communication that your comfortable with, as I would like to discuss my disagreement with some of the associations you've made of a few gods you've published online.

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You're welcome. It's always good to see another knowledgeable editor working in the field of ancient religion. Good luck with your cleanup efforts, and let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.

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specifically as Yam. I am not really the biggest enthusiast of some of Ayali-Darshan's theories - they tend to border on hyperdiffusionism at times - but I suppose it is evidence, for better or worse.

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So, anyway, thank you for everything you do here - for listening to me ramble - and all you have done for me and for others here and for the encyclopedia itself. I'm glad to know you.

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that's allowed so long as it is referenced that way. I would not have known that before you! This is not the first time I have had cause to think grateful thoughts at you.

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You are so amazing, and all your comments are good, and I am so grateful it hardly seems like 'thank you' is adequate. But thank you. I will get back there - soon I hope.

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It might not be the way I would have worded a section on ancient Egyptian xenophobia, but it's coherent. And the Egyptians certainly were xenophobic.

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I'm writing up a list of points that came to mind as I skimmed the article. I will probably post them over the weekend.

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Sorry about the delay. Here I am asking you a favor and don't get back to you for a week - but I have good excuses!

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issues but I have a gym quality treadmill that I use three times a day to walk a mile each time, so not bad for 80!

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I apologize for not replying sooner. I'm having a busy month, but I will take a look at the article next week.

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little, if any, evidence for his presence in Egypt beyond a single myth, ie. the one from the Astarte papyrus.

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The Osiris Myth is a dud and they warned you about getting involved with it.

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by creating a specialized connection with the deceased's internal organs?

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