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association representing these competitors . Now it is a choice of the competitor which team they choose the OCI team or team GB . I have included links that state a
British passport holder has competed for Ireland at the Olympics and the Articles of Association of the OCI and affiliates that state all-island, a BBC article showing OCI representing all-island and a qoute from the charter to explain why Ireland could use the flag , emblem and anthem that they do . The facts seem lost on one editor , hopefully your points will help him add constructively to the article . I am trying to avoid an edit war , I may have to ask for admin to resolve the conflict , possible yourself with your knowledge of the Olympics and the Charter - if not could you point me at how to refer to admin if it goes that far . Thank you .
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