723:- as thousands of people probably have. I have also read the very unflattering material available about you on the Encyclopedia Dramatica and numerous other sites. Whether you would like to admit it or not, you have made yourself NOTORIOUS all over the Internet for harassing people. And as for Erhenfel's or anyone else having an "obsession" with you, I would suggest the reverse is more likely the case. Famous people are seldom "obsessed" with unknown people. If you actually read the Cyberstalking article instead of just blindly reverting it, you might learn a thing or two. No one is "stalking" you. You are not the "victim". The people you have libeled and harrassed are the victims. MegaMom (talk) 06:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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sockpuppet of Wyatt or she is not. You think she is, I don't. I could describe your rationalisations as "ludicrous", but don't, as you are entitled to your view and for it not to be denigrated by others. What you're not allowed to do, however, is to continue calling her a sockpuppet without being prepared to back up your accusations by completing the very quick, very easy process at
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sockpuppet with which to continue his campaign, do you really think he would bother building up a history of sensible editing to unrelated articles for nine months before relaunching his campaign? Personally I'd think it unlikely - particularly given the nature of the articles concerned, as I said in my earlier message to MegaMom.
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I've been impressed by yours and other users conduct recently, and I'm prepared to offer you an RFA nomination. Your judgement shown at CAT:CSD and UAA is exemplary, and I wish for you to be an administrator to help defeat the backlogs we can get there sometimes! You've shown that you can handle the
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which would establish whether or not you're correct - a process which I see you continue to shy away from. There's no obligation on you to make a check-user request, so long as you continue (as you have been for 18 hours or so) from refraining from accusing her of being a sockpuppet until you do so.
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Thanks for telling me about the policies regarding non-free images. I have taken a look at the pages you provided and was wondering if you could replace the images you deleted with images which can be used. Thanks.
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Hey there, I will just like to tell you that I did not create the user name ITunes69. It might have been someone else. And can please stop blaming me for it.
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