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815:. A character (I could call him other things) is insisting that the article cannot say that U2 is Irish because 2 of its members are "Britons" (in his words). He has edited nothing on WP but that article, and made clear on his user page that he is on a crusade to get the reference changed on WP. Keep an eye out. Having been shot down on his attempts to generate a consensus behind his supposed NPOV idea, he is now trying unilaterally to force the edit onto the page, and say simply that the band was formed in Dublin! 1492:. Not many Irish editors left now to keep the pov-pushers at bay. Even though there are some fair-minded British editors, it is still a difficult task trying to explain that Ireland is not British, or the president of the USA is not Saddam Hussain, and it's the other fellow LOL. I have grown a bit jaded of trying, and unfortunately I find myself repeating old arguments, so I too will move on in the next couple of weeks. Many of the British editors will always have the perfect answer to the 828: 635: 2124: 2065: 1590: 622:. It really is annoying how some users seem so intent on pushing a little englander agenda on the article, and regard any attempt to in any way explain the Irish problems with the term as 'nationalist POV-pushing' or worse. One particular bigot on his own page went into an abusive rant which mocked the Famine!!! Unbelievable. While most people on the page on both sides are balanced and constructive, there seems to be a few who are nothing but rascist bigots. 3224: 3123: 2959: 2182: 3325: 3066: 2486: 1290: 2019: 2918: 1059: 1011: 985: 2346:. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Knowledge's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. 2303:. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Knowledge's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. 2260:. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Knowledge's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. 835:"Those who do not believe in Wikipsychic powers and who inform others of votes and debates commit the Wikiheresy of "votestacking" and must be condemned to Wikiboycotts and Wikistonings". I wish you wouldn't misrepresent my argument in order to recruit people just to weigh in on your side of an argument. If it weren't for your 1615:

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housand feet). There might be a case for restricting the article to GB, merely mentioning that the Hewitts list includes Ireland as well, since AFAIK there are no other commonly used lists in Ireland, but that raises additional problems - if you have an article about a Hewitt in Ireland, where do you

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It's a subject I find very interesting - speaking as a listener, player and improviser of folk music myself - but my knowledge is entirely intellectual rather than experiential. That is to say, I only know as much about sean nós as I have read in books, not having experienced much of it for myself. I

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We're talking about armed resistance to an established government, which is a rebellion: those taking part against the government were therefore rebels. That's my take on it. Brady is excellent (I've read the O Neill biography, but years ago), although I doubt his argument is as you describe it. Is

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to collaborate and pool our work on the subject to create, expand and improve listings about Gaelic Games and related subjects. With your previous edits i was wondering if you would be willing to join us and help out in this project. Their is no commitment necessary, and you can assists the project

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anyway? I know David Green used to insist on it, but I don't get the full implication of Welshness in this context. Is there a real objection to Anglo-Norman? And does it matter anyway, since the king of England (H II) was lord of Ireland by 1172 and Magna Charta had been extended to the country by

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Hi El Gringo, we do certainly seem to be dealing with some backward looking types - they just don't get how annoying it is as an Irish person to be continually asked if you're from the UK or if all of Ireland is part of the UK 'because you're from the British Isles aren't you?!' Argh! On your IONA

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As for changing nomenclature and names you'll meet a lot of resistance. I don't agree with the Irish for Nine Years War going in to that article. Had the term been used contemporaneously, then good - but NYW is just a tag used by historians to identify a particular set of campaigns, and using the

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or somewhere. We could collaborate if you like. The newspaper article link is interesting - I wonder have the remains been inspected to determine cause of death? Two points - the Earl of Desmond was non-commital at best to this invasion force ie. he tried to play both sides + I've come across a

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I enjoyed contributing to the article, but I would do a better job of it by working in collaboration with someone with a more experiential perspective, who can distinguish better than I can between what is trivial and what is important. How do you feel about the article as it currently stands?

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Hi. I've never heard of him referred to as anything other than Seán Ó Faoláin so I presumed that putting an English version next to his name was similar to putting "John Halpin" next to Seán Óg Ó hAilpín. Where is your evidence that he used it, never mind "is extremely widely used"? Did he

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Now if this means that your average Brit is nationalist, then I'd be afraid that I'd have to agree with you. I would say that it means that your average Brit is relatively ignorant about our past with Ireland; and put it this way, we don't get told anything about the

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on a map or sincerly believing that US is the world's greatest country and not-understanding why people could dislike them. It is a form, I would agree with you, of nationalism; but it is born out, I think, through a (systematic) ignorance, rather than a prejudice.

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If people disagree with you, its because they have different backgrounds, opinions and different soruces upon which to draw their view of what 'neutral' is. I do hope that you can remain a useful contributor to Knowledge, but you must improve your conduct.

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I think you'll find that an RfC is a perfectly legitimate means of dispute resolution and should be partaken in by both sides. It's designed to build concensus. There is no need for such remarks, and there is no way for me to be considered a usual suspect

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s and so on - but in the end it became confusing, so I just went with the familiar anglicisations. On the diversity point - I hope that's shown in the details of their lives. If you have a notion of adding all the original Irish names to the Category of

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Hi El Gringo, the 'Anglo-Celtic Isles' article is in need of defence yet again...some users of the term 'British Isles' are trying to get a 'redirect' set up. I'm 100% against this, naturally. If you'd like to oppose too, please do! Best regards,

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You have now reverted this three times within 24 hours, which is the maximum allowed under WP policy. Considering that you are acting belligerently and against the consensus formed on the talk page, I shall report you for violation of

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El Gringo, I must plead with you now to reconsider your civility on Knowledge. On the deletion of Anglo-Celtic Isles page, and at British Isles, you repeatedly engage in behaviour which most would see as violating policies such as

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article, I take it you are interested in the subject. I don't know whether you noticed my own edits to that article on 21 May, when I added information from a book which I've added to the article's references. I also edited the

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I'm not sure if he wrote under that name, but the English name was registered on his birth certificate, and some outside Ireland mistakenly treat his use of "Seán Ó Faoláin" as a pseudonym. A few citations of the English name:

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On a more general note; I accept your explanations for your behaviour but I just hope that you appreciate that Knowledge only really works when people are prepared to suffer fools; if you find yourself getting angry with an

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point, the great problem I just can't get past - and which I think sinks its viability - is the fact that Iceland is a North Atlantic Island too...it's a nice idea, but just falls over here. Would you agree? Best regards,

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oh i think i'll vote agree with that because no part of ireland is part of great britian.Of course NI is part of the UK but thats different.Its even in the name.The United Kingdom of Great britain and Northern Ireland.

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Thanks for the message. I've no difficulty with the original names being used within the articles. I use the anglicised names because they're the ones used in my sources and are familiar to me. So the recent edit to

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I set out to create just such a page on the Siege of Smerwick, and as I wrote the background info, it evolved in an article on the second Desmond Rebellions, with a section on Smerwick. Peraps you could review

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I think where we differ on this is that whilst be both accept that 'British Isles' is a political term - as you point out with reference to Orientalism, its difficult to think of any geographical term that

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rather than unilaterally moving a page, since a page move is quite a drastic action. For this reason I wasn't going to move it back, but I see that you've left hundreds of double redirects, so I will. --

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1046:(sic). Some individuals moved the page to that ridiculous half uppercase half lowercase name (if it stays at that form WP will be a laughing stock!) Feel free to contribute to the debate if you wish. 537:, which has a section dealing with the Munster landings in 1588, including those on the Dingle peninsula - perhaps you'd take a look see if the local knowledge is accurate (plus Irish place-names!).-- 1327:

Hi ElGringo, I see you are being plagued by editors who seem to have something in common. They all have the Union Flag on their nation flag-pole. Well the Brits are a funny old bunch when they get

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question - Ireland's constitutional status was mixed, so the crown government was not exclusively colonial, but domestic too. English attitudes to government in Ireland were varied - see Brady's

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I think these are mislead. In fact, just yesterday (to tackle the latter first) I thought of this exact point when I noticed an appearance of the term 'British Isles' on the front page of

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direct people who want to know about the Hewitts? Of course the term "British Isles" is problematic, but these are problems that ought to be discussed on the talk page or going through

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article, you've really managed to flesh it out from the stub that it was. I've come across it in the past but not known enough on the topic or had the time to research to update it.

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adds to the quality. Where the anglicised versions must be insisted on is in the article titles - otherwise readers would find it too difficult to access information. I suppose

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to ask someone to flesh out the notion of Scots origins in Ulster. Better to put your edit at the foot of the article and give citations. I suppose it all relates to the

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there an alternative to rebel? Insurgent, freedom fighter, traitor, holy warrior - all inappropriate for various reasons. Please make your own suggestion. And get on to

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I see your addition to this article. I think you ought to tone it down, but it's interesting to read. The end of the article addresses the issue, and I had gone to

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doesn't currently exist. You need to pipe the links (and possibly also create a redirect) if you're going to make such changes, at least until an article called "

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are good examples of the inconvenience and confusion over naming styles: I started out removing the apostrophe before the surnames, and changing all

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Hi, I just wanted to note that I strongly support the 'Britain & Ireland' renaming and have stated this on the vote page. Very best regards,

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source (not sure which) that the soldiers were killed by paunching (stomachs slit with pikes), leading to a drawn out death. Also, I just posted

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You seem like you have a lot a knowledge with respect Irish history so maybe you would like to comment on the historic basis of this term here

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remove this message as you have done previously as I already deem your recent personal attacks blatant enough to warrant an instant block.--

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Thank you very much El; on my behlaf, I apologise for getting a bit vengful as I did at one point; but let me just make my case breifly.

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Really!Have you ever been there just out of curiosity?I didnt vote in the Britain redirection because i wasnt sure what to vote.Sorry

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for deletion, and the history page makes it look like you're pretty invested in this article. Please note the AfD discussion

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Thanks for your back-up and support on the Anglo-Celtic Isles article El Gringo. Let's keep on the ball eh?! Best regards,

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Yes some of the links appear a bit boring at first, but they are VERY helpful if you ever take the time to read them.

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article you were editing so the picture is shown. Its pretty easy to do. Good luck and happy editing! -

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The edit wich added the NPA template to this page was legitimate, not vandalism. See these diffs...

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Hope you enjoy any time you do take away from Knowledge, and I sincerely hope that you do return.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:United_Kingdom#.22Britain.22_being_an_.22incorrect.22_abbreviation

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Are you sure that it is a village and not a place?If it is a village,I've never heard of it.

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argument, we might have been able to get onto the issue of actually improving that article.

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point, the historiography since the 1970's (including Brady) has been banging on about the

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too - I added a few paras on 16thC. Ireland after a bit of debate on the talk page there.

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