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thirds (3 semitones)". There is no mention of Aug 3rds (spanning 5 semitones) or dim 3rds (2 semitones). If Aug and Dim 3rds (M2 and P4, respectively) are to be counted as also falling under the category of "Tertian" then the preceeding statement needs to be changed to reflect that. I'd also like to see citation of dim and aug 3rds falling under the heading of "Tertian". Furthermore, if M2's and P4's are to be included then the number of possibilities does not merely jump to 12 but rather to 64 (three intervals, each of which can be one of four types, thus 4 possibilities. When mapped out, 4 can be removed as 4 identical pairs exist, and a further 10 can be removed as they contain octaves and can thus be viewed as triads. This leaves a total of 50 possibilities for 4-note chords formed by using dim 3rds, m 3rds, M 3rds, and Aug 3rds.

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triad types for columns and 3 7th types as rows. Thus for each triad type (dim., m, M, Aug) there are three 7th intervals (dim, m, M; aug not considered as it is an octave). It is here where one can get the 12 theoretical types of 7th chords, only seven of which would also fall under the category of a "Tertian" 7th as well (those mentioned above). The 5 falling out of the Tertian category would be:

2953: 1871:, I've added the source. Some of them are used quite a lot in jazz. Minor ninth, minor sixth and augmented eleventh particularly, I use it all the time in pieces like Misty on both guitar and piano in E flat major to play a F minor ninth to the B flat thirteenth, and A flat minor 6th to the D flat Augmented 11th. I believe though that a 6/9 chord is the same as a 2220: 2117: 1875:. Usually the root, the major third, the dominant fifth, the sixth, the seventh and the ninth. Its also common in jazz to play say a G 7 Augmented 5th and augmented 9th known as a "seventh raised fifth raised ninth dominant chord" which progresses to the C major seventh. In fact that chord is used in the popular jazz standard 5780: 454:. It is currently scheduled for deletion in 7 days unless I can add additional material. As a frequent contributor to music theory pages, I'd like to enlist your help in filling out this page. I'm looking for citations and additional samples to ensure that the page does not get deleted by the powers that be. Thank you. 2293:

tones). Eg. If we were discussing Tertian dyads there could only be 2 types (minor and Major); Triads would yield the four we all know (diminished, minor, Major, and Augmented). Thus adding one more interval would result in a total of eight possibilities (ie. by adding a m3 or a M3 to each of the four triad types).

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Hopefully this clears up any confusion on the theoretical number of Tertian 7th chords as well as shines some light on where the number 12 actually originates from. I hope this is helpful to you and I would like to thank you for the enormous contributions you have made to the Knowledge. If my logic

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According to the Knowledge article on seventh chords it defines tertian chords as those made up of tones which are only a third apart (either Major or minor). When you take that into consideration then by definition there could logically only be eight types of Tertian 7th chords (chords containing 4

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Hey, thank you so much for adding the image of the chromatic scale of the Ben Johnston suite. It's extremely helpful. I noticed an error in the article which omits mentioning the 11th partial as one of the tones of the scale. I saw that your image of the scale also didn't have it mentioned, and that

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As chord construction in that graphic is done by raising the top note by HALF STEP, the second of the three examples I believe is wrong. The central example departs from an and shows how is rised to which yields in after inverting one octave down... but... as there are NO ALTERATIONS in the key

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I was wondering if you could help me. I'm a wikipedian in wikifa (persian wikipedia). there we've got some problems with the managers, they made the rules in order that no one can change them or no one can add new manager to their team. they do not let the others to change them by voting or ... Do

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Just wondering if you know the copyright status of the music? I believe it's public domain, at least in the US, since it was premiered in France in 1913, and first published for piano four hands that year, with the orchestral arrangement published in 1921. I'm wondering about this because I noticed

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status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of that website's terms of use of its content. However, if

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from back in December of 2003. I realize it's been quite a while, but do you happen to know what your source was for the claim that Ligeti first heard music by Reich and Riley in 1972? I know he traveled to San Francisco in 1971 and wrote "Selbstprotrait" with reference to those other composers in

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Thanks for reading. I don't know if when you say "leave me a message at the bottom of the page" you meant by editing it... you will know how to track the contribution (if I am really contributing to something useful) and how can I be credited if you update this picture thanks to this comment, as I

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from Knowledge. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject of the article is important or significant: that is, why an article about it

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I read Tertian as per your suggestion and it stated that it refers to thirds and discusses primarily minor and Major 3rds. On the Seventh Chords Article, the sentence before the statement in question reads "tertian, constructed using a sequence of major thirds (spanning 4 semitones) and/or minor

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Where you are getting the idea of twelve possibilities comes from the traditional (and correct) procedure for identifying the qualities of a 7th chord: by a) the type of triad and b) the interval between root and 7th. This procedure yields 12 possibilities best pictured by a box chart with the 4

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Keep in mind that I am carefully reading the documentation but, as I am larning all this just now, it could happen that I am wrong and the picture I suspect is incorrect is really correct, which, in this case, would mean I am not understanding something, as from to it seems to me that it goes a

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It looks like you got here about two and a half years before I did. The focus of my attention tends to be narrow and spotty, so no, I haven't noticed a stylistic change. I did notice that essay of yours, and there may be some merit to it. I will be watching there too for a while. Seems to me that

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Hmm, well, but that still leaves us with the fact that the illustrative snippet in that book seems to contradict all the independent sources from editions of the actual music (plus violate basic counterpoint rules). Which of these sources are less likely to be mistaken? I'd go with the editions,

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and noticed that the description for this image mentioned that it has "apparently, augmented triads." The word "apparently" lead me to look a little more closely and see that the notes in the image are in fact major triads, and the chord symbols above them are wrong, so I'm guessing someone else

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Knowledge has matured into a community with so many users, and so many areas of interest, that there is room for editors' experience to be vastly different from the rest. So far I'm crossing my fingers that the nuts and vandals may be kept down to a dull roar, and some days I wonder. Be well, __

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Anyway I am just excited to have someone else actually finding this stuff interesting. You can check out my page and contributions to get a sense of my wide-ranging interests. I am a registered nurse by profession (so I have an understanding and sympathy for the difficulties of living with

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I am not English, my language is Spanish, so please excuse me if I cannot express what I mean too much clearly. My English was learnt at school but I've never lived in a country where English us the current language, so I may be uning some incorrect words, spechially those technical.

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Just because it doesn't get said enough, thank you for your massive contributions to the encyclopedia. No special reason, just random good wishes being sent in your direction, that you can keep a balance going among joy, health, peace, strength, and mental clarity. Be well, man. __

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I looked at that article too and did not feel that these files belonged there because they seem to be talking about vocal cadences. I viewed these as musical cadences. Do you see a section where they belong in either article or should the music one have a section for military

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Seconded. They're going to get moved over eventually, since you don't state that you have an objection to the files being on Commons, so all that this is doing is creating a lot more work for a group of users that already have 300,000 files to move to Commons.

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Hi, thanks for making that Monteverdi example. I just noticed that in the version shown there is a rather surprising instance of parallel fifths between the first and third voice in the progression from bar 1 to bar 2. Are you sure this is correct? In this

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added the thing about augmented triads based solely on the chord symbols in the image. While a minus sign does indicate a minor triad, a major triad is actually notated as simply the letter name--no plus sign. Could you fix the image, please? Thanks. :)

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deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Knowledge guidelines.

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Although some images may not need author information in obvious cases, (such where an applicable source is provided),authorship information aids users of the image, and helps ensure that appropriate credit is given (a requirement of some licenses).

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you know any higher level for changing the inappropriate managers of other wikis? Our managers rarely come to wiki and those who come and work are some 18 years old boys that in some fields they realy don't know what is right or wrong

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linked. It seems that the lead of each should mention the other or maybe we should merge the two? maybe they should have hatnotes if they are very different. Feel free to remove these files from drum beat and drum cadence from its

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is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors to make better use of the image, and it will be more informative for readers.

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it was one note short of an octave (F# is missing, which is where the 11:8 tone would go). I don't have the software to edit the image, so I thought I'd mention it to you. Thanks again for creating it in the first place.

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Hi! I was thinking of moving all of your files with a free license to Commons. But I have a question. In many cases there is information about the composer and when (s)he died. But I noticed that it is not the case with

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Under the section "Secundal, tertian, and quartal chords" it states "Any such chord that can be decomposed into a series of (major or minor) thirds is called a tertian chord." Hopefully this clears up the confusion.

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I thought that I cited all the content quite well, yet Knowledge still hit the page with an WP:NOR and More Citations Needed charge! Your review and comment asking why the page needs more citations was very welcome!

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Your update of File:SixBasicChordsInCMajor.PNG labels the e minor iii chord as a V chord. I too prefer the lower-case-as-minor notation, but the error thus introduced unfortunately overshadows the improvement.

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If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which:{{subst:usernameexpand|Hyacinth/January 19 2011 - February 5 2012}} will produce an appropriate expansion,

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Well, as a cadence expert, I would expect that you would do a better job at explaining the instrumentation than I. I was just suggesting that you do so because it is worth mentioning in the new article.--

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I was just moving some of your files over to the Commons when I realised how many you had uploaded. That got me wondering if there was a particular reason for putting them here rather than there. Cheers.

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is overridden by the fact that it would be covered by the illicit parallel. You don't get leading-tone progressions in parallel fifths – or, in this case, indeed, in a parallel motion of the whole triad

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1976. If this date is, indeed, verifiable and not speculative, it would have significant implications for research I am currently conducting involving the sketches and manuscript score for "Continuum."

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have both been described as Eurocentric and are specifically biased towards European classical music." Could you please either let me know if those pages are any better or leave an update note on the

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In learning about All-interval tetrachords, I studied your chords in this image, and I think that in the first chord, the F should be an E. Am I right on that? Thanks for your all your contributions.

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signature neither for C neither D... should'nt we LOWER the by one half getting a resulting in a where is the note preceeded by a "temporal" alteration by putting a "flat" symbol just before it?

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In any case, of course, apart from our personal judgments of the counterpoint, what do the sources say? In addition to the two editions I mentioned yesterday, all the ones accessible on CPDL

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Thanks for your reply. But I'm afraid I must disagree still. The duplication of D is of course no problem in terms of counterpoint, and much more crucially, any leading-tone quality of the B

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Your image for the Bohlen-Pierce chord on the corresponding article is incorrect. The chord is C G A. You have it written C G C, the very thing the scale is trying to avoid. So fix it.

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Hi again! Got your last message regarding dim and Aug 3rds but as I understand it, "Tertian" chords by definition do not include these. Tertian only allows for m3 and M3 intervals.

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as well as several others found on the web also have D. Paul Agnew in the Consort of Musicke recording under Anthony Rooley also seems to be singing D. Can I ask what your source is?

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edition and another I have here in front of me, voice 3 has a D instead of a B flat at that point (bar 6 and identically bar 32), which certainly makes more sense counterpoint-wise.

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is in error, or if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to either write to my talk page or you can email me directly at asafamiliar@yahoo.com Thank you again.

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I volunteer for Other Minds and one of the projects I have taken on is the development of their wiki page and any related pages. I created a page for their associate director

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Hi -- just a note. You had edited a post a made, changing my word "indicia". It was actually the word I was using to make my statement, not an error on my part. Thanks.--

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appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

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appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

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No need to adjust your style on my account; I've gotten used to your online persona, and besides, it's good practice for me ;-) keeping a cool head and maintaining that

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about your idea, don't try to get it made policy. Two thanks for every thanks received would be an unsustainable pyramid scheme, and quite fake, but suggesting editors

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Thank you very much for your welcome :) Insofar as I understand how the site works I will participate in this wonderful project that Knowledge is. Take care :) --

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