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week I'll generate some examples showing clave in a single measure. Notice that the standard pattern example you put up on the "bell pattern' page shows the figure in a single measure. In contrast, the "campana" part you put up on the bell pattern page is in two measures. This issue of whether to depict clave and related patterns in a single measure or two measures should probably be addressed. I'll be gone this weekend, but hope to address this issue early next week.

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strings and the fretboard on that area on an electric guitar. If you move the screwdriver from the 3rd to the 2nd fret and struck the string at the short side you hear a bright multiphonic tone appearing at some point. That's the 7/6 position. The clock/bell sound you hear is (if A is 440) 3080 Hz + 513,33 Hz. You hear the seventh harmonic (which is the sixth overtone) together with the septimal minor third. Can you follow my description? Best wishes,

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themselves. It's the same with images not being uploaded to Commons; I don't just follow people around cleaning up after them over and over, I tell them what they are doing wrong in the hope that they will do it right. Your assertion that I could have fixed the problem in a few minutes (and I did do a quick web search for a reference, not that it was in any way my responsibility to do so) overlooks the whole point of why I tell people this stuff.

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time. But at least my work resulted in the removal of the tag, "This Article Needs Wikifying" (or something to that effect). Thanks to your musically notated example, a musically literate viewer can now understand the scale in terms of tones and semitones, and HEAR it on their pianos! (Maybe we should include an audio file, which I'd be happy to contribute.)

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kind of approval? If a FB "Page" has a title that is redirected to another Knowledge title, will the image (from the article you are redirected to) show up on FB (seems to) ... and, if not, can an image be placed on the redirect that will? (even though it would not normally be seen on Knowledge ... due to the redirect)

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about rare groove - which I am about to start working on. I noticed your contribs. and I noticed that you are suggesting a category 'musical forms'. I found a link at Yale that shows this is how they organise as well - so I put this as 'keep' on the discussion for musical forms with the link below:

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Thank you very much for your welcome note! Is it this obvious that I am quite new to Knowledge? At least I do already sign my messages! So this hint is quite needless, but your message seems standardized anyway, so I don't take it personally. ;-) Thanks again for this first impression of contributing

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I still wouldn't know it was true because it could have been a hoax, or a mistake etc. And even if it wasn't, you could resort to some relativistic postmodernistic twaffle. All we can do is cite references here; we can't verify them for everyone as well. People have to do that themselves if they want

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articles be merged. Your suggestion was met with approval by two other editors, yet, nothing has happened. I assume you simply forgot about the matter. Are you still interested in this topic? Do you still intend to move forward with said merge? Please respond on this matter, as I think the merge

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Hello, Hyacinth. I just want to bring this up, but your conduct at DRV is frowned upon. The admin who closes the discussion will duly note all arguments for and against deletion/recreation; hectoring every single person who does not agree with you only feeds ill feelings and generates more drama than

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Hi Hyacinth -- as I'm sure you noticed I declined the speedy. Evan, it's best to give someone writing an article just a bit of a chance to write it before slapping the speedy tag on, especially with an obviously experienced contributor who knows how to reference and cite. Hyacinth, nice work; it's a

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distinct (i.e. no merge). While the two are related, "phrasing" relates to the art of shaping music during a performance. The numerous quotes are not there to be shoved into wikiquote (you failed to complete this task anyway), but were selected to highlight diverse important aspects of phrasing, and

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which sounds very nice (even though I can't hear a difference :). My question: would you be willing to help me out by creating a sound file for each of the above-mentioned intervals (going up, piano sound or something nice (i.e., no beep), all starting with the same lower tone)? I'm aware that there

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I KNOW this is not a chat line, but I MUST confess my dedication to Obama! A vote for a third party is a wasted vote. McCain is as homophobic as ever (but I bet he's had a taste of it!). Obama seems sincere in his support of gay rights/pride. Probably the only reason he doesn't have a stronger lead

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Hello - I am an associate of Lisa F. Jackson's - some material on her wikipedia page that is similar or the same as her own websites, thegreatestsilence.org and jacksonfilms.com - she has given permission to refer to and use direct text from her bio's on those sites, all material there is expressly

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I noticed that Facebook utilizes Knowledge images. The first image on the top of an article will show up on a FB "Page" or as a pop-up thumbnail/icon at a link. I also noticed that when an image is added to an article, it doesn't show up on FB right away. Are the delays because the image needs some

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Good essay! As you've seen, I have reworked it a little. The "POV" was probably NPOV now I look again at the context. Possibly some (further) citations from WP Policy and guidelines would help (hence the tongue-in-cheek editorial template...) Great start, though! I informed the participants in

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Hello Hyacinth, it's Andrew Francis (u10ajf) here. I was hoping to ask that you might check your reference for Hungarian Gypsy Scale because I have two references to a different scale, an Aeolian #4, taking this name. My references are from the "Guitar Grimoire" by Adam Kadmos and "Monster Scales

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I'm sure you intended this to be 498.046875 cents instead, but as a result a substitution is necessary. I've temporarily linked the Equal-tempered "Perfect fourth" (500 cents) instead. However, your "17 steps in 41" (498.56 cents) might work even better, being only half a cent off perfect. At least

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Isn't it clear? I'm asking you to provide references. How do I know you didn't just make this stuff up? Knowledge is built around the idea of references. If we don't cite sources, we have virtually no credibility (and we do have very little credibility, primarily because we don't provide references

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In my opinion, you made your POV rather clear in the Village Pump "discussion". Which also meant that you were being a bit less than truthful about your motives during the DRV. That said, I did what I could to be honest, yet attempt to keep the discussion positive. There were enough people who were

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To clarify: I'm sure that we all do the best we can to balance not being a bureacracy with having written clarity. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not. But Knowledge is not about having written "rules". It's about building an encyclopedia. Everything else should be designed to support that single

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Hi, Thanks a lot for the citing. A reply here to prevent reverting:) It says exactly what I thought. The septimal minor third is inbetween fret 2 and 3, not inbetween 7/6 and 6/5. It is on 7/6 in fact. You can hear the tone together with the seventh harmonic by sticking a screwdriver inbetween the

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Frankly, I consider your message on my user page as an attack. You are twisting my response to that fellow's message, one that was quite lacking in the necessary qualities of interpersonal communication, one that was quite hubristic and offputting and gave no indication that he had really read and

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It would be nice to think that the other participants in discussion are the one's setting the tone but it must be admitted that all participants do. You assisted with setting a positive tone in the discussion through many of your statements. For example, your first "proposal" to me that "Cat:Queer

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Listen to yourself. Your 'side' 'lost' the discussion, for lack of a better word, so you're bitter. But even if the outcome isn't what you want, doesn't mean the closer paid no attention to what was said. You have a serious chip on your shoulder, and badgering everyone who disagrees with you helps

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Thanks for replying on the talkpage but I'm confused. Is the quote taken from the book you mentioned at first, or from the article from the New York Review of Books? For the article I only get a preview and then they ask me to sign in and pay. I've asked my campus library if I can read it for free

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while it was undergoing peer review. Per comments received there, the article in general, and especially the section where Tchaikovsky's homosexuality is mentioned, has been thoroughly overhauled. I would really appreciate if you could look over that section once more just to make sure all bases

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Hi, I disagree with your counting scheme in the depiction of tresillo in divisive structure. The proper representation in standard notation would be using the 2/4 time signature. I think you changed my counting scheme because all clave examples on the page are written as two measures of 4/4. Next

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What evidence do you have that I'm a racist? What evidence do you have that my words were intended to disparage those whose ancestors lived in the Western Hemisphere before Columbus? Please observe that WP:NPA notes that "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the

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Hyacinth, Thanks for the tips on editing entries. I'm sorry if I forgot to sign something. I think I usually do sign. I assume you've corrected my mistake wherever it (or they) occurred? If not, I'm going to have to do some searching because I'm not sure what I edited recently. I'm looking at my

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I just visited the bloody battlefield of the Sonata form page. I couldn't read the whole thing as every few paragraphs I'd find myself standing up, blurting an obscenity and pace for ten minutes before continuing. All I managed to do was remove one snippet of stupidity and then resigned from the

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The major intervals may also be altered so as to become diminished (reduced by the necessary equivalent of 2 flats) or augmented (attenuated by the necessary equivalent of 1 sharp). The necessary equivalent can vary depending on the key signature, that is, one may not actually see a flat in the

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Saw that you created that article - probably a good addition. I'd remove the picture of the mouthpieces, though - it's confusing, especially in an article about a relatively unfamiliar item like a brass instrument leadpipe. I bet there are leadpipe images available. Since you just created the

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I apologise Hyacinth! I assumed (wrongly) from your name and userpage that you were a lesbian. I take it that you are actually male and either gay or bi? Anyway I intend no offence. Ironically, despite being straight, I have in the past been mistaken for being gay and been the subject of gay

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Sorry, but I reverted again. You don't understand what I'm saying. frets are derived from harmonics. But Western frets are deviated mathmatical fret positions, so the harmonic relationship has disappeared. If you are interested this is a clarification about the relation between harmonics and the

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Long time, no talk! Thank you for your recent musically notated addition to the stub on the "half-diminished scale". I rewrote this one about a year ago (the original was a disaster!). I didn't spend very much time on it...other articles seemed more important (such as Musical Notation) at the

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I see that you participated in the creation of this article, although quite a while ago. I also note that you are making many edits to music related topics. As a non musician (or wanna be, maybe) I find it confusing that the "bass line" image doesn't seem to be the familiar I IV V of blues. This

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Thanks for looking through the article and making the layout adjustments that you did. However, I'd hoped you would comment on the current content, especially about areas that had been previously contested. You'd had some definite views previously and mention on your user page that you like to

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Do you seriously believe that the works in that list do not specify time signature at all? The only example I have in mind is some of Messiaen's works, which have neither a time signature nor barlines, but that is only because the meter changes too frequently and non-periodically. Moreover, the

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Hello Hyacinth. This is PJKenyn, AKA David Gray Porter. I'm new to this, and my biggest problem is the fine print that is very hard to read w/o magnification. I'm glad to be of help regarding the music of Charles Ives. I hope I've entered this message correctly. If not, I can be reaches at

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It's pretty clear that I could make up a similar article to the former 'Duchenne smile' that sounded believable to most readers without specialist knowledge in that area or an encyclopedic knowledge of everything, yet that was completely fictitious. I think it's very hard to make a case that an

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Thanks, but IMO it isn't really an ethnic fight to insist that the composer's heritage be stated as it is in "Grove" and other similar music encyclopedias; simply one to represent the composer and his output accurately. I'm coming from the point of view of a musicologist working in the field of

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Hi Hyacinth, Before writing the post above I altered the section on Gypsy Scales. You might want to revert it, I think it was a hasty move on my part. I removed the Hungarian Gypsy (as a mode of Double Harmonic) but then saw that you had extracted your information from a published source and

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Look, I'm sorry I got the wrong person; you should have just told me you only created a redirect from the beginning. But you need to stop all this bullshit about references. It's not for other people to go cleaning up after those who create poor articles with no references, they should do this

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Notice that the audio files correctly play commas, not intervals formed by octave+comma. And I sincerily do not understand the reason why an article about a comma should show a comma plus an octave. I am sure you have a good reason, and that you can explain it, but I guess most readers cannot

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article. Given your interests and your role as an administrator, I think you would know what to do. Mind you, the user in question is not fomenting Wikihate, but is clearly obliterating LGBT anything, bit by bit, including the occurences of the actual abbreviation LGBT and its included terms.

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I've deleted the category. A guideline not getting consensus does not overrule deletion review decisions, it will have to be allowed to be recreated at DRV before it can be created again (which I doubt will happen anytime soon, considering there have been 3 deletion reviews all resulting in

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Also, when I said "feel-good", I meant in terms of a category that is intended only for grouping for the sake of grouping, with no navigation intended except for social or pseudo-demographic reasons (pseduo-demographic because: a.) self-placement may be of dubious precision b.) not all of a

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because I believe that a link to a page called "Staff position" is more appropriate in this context, even though this page redirects exactly to the section you explicitly indicated. This is because, if somebody will decide to write a separate article about "staff positions", the link in

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understood what I had tried to communicate to him. Messages such as the one you left at my page are not really helpful. They merely add to the noise level. If you really wanted to help you would try to understand where both sides are coming from and then tried to find common ground.

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I'm contacting you because of a certain user who's been slyly unLGBTing several key LGBT-related articles. The edits strike major parts of articles plus they're almost always deletions under the guise of formating, style, consistency, etc. In fact, the most blatant one was with the

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I wrote a long explanation of why I removed your quibble tag about Link Wray's invention of the power chord, but before posting it, I went to look at your contributions list to see what kind of editing you do (mostly serious music) and what do I find but your own contribution to

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Wray was noted for pioneering a new sound for electric guitars, as exemplified in his hit ] ] "]", by '''Link Wray and his Ray Men''', which pioneered an overdriven, distorted electric guitar sound, and "invented the ], the major modus operandi of modern rock guitarist"<ref:

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that the world has come a long way on this issue: the MAJORITY of Americans now support gay marriage (led, apparently, by Canada, many years after the fact). There's really no need for another Stonewall...there will ALWAYS be some homophobics, just as the KKK still exists.

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OH - I'm so sorry. The culpa is certainly mea. I can't think what I was thinking - I thought you'd added him, but looking properly at the edit history, I realise now that I've made a total twit of myself. If I added him, he was definitely on the list. Sorry about that!

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and Modes" by Dave Celentano. I am aware that nomenclature is pretty arbitrary and that a "my reference is better than yours" dispute would be pretty silly so I have altered the page to mention this ambiguity in the meantime. I hope that this will not offend you.

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OK, got your reply. In related news, I only have a general practical sense, gained and decayed decades ago, of what goes on with the third valve of a trumpet or cornet, and the various compensations of it. Wiser heads than mine will have to explain that better. __

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As a member of WP:Armenia I'm patiently waiting to see the outcome of this. Also note that Tom removed the ethnicity from other articles as well. I don't think mass-revert would have been helpfully, but I'm looking forward to adding those back, sourced of course.

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for which she won the Pulitzer Prize. She is so wonderful! And, incidentally, she was bisexual, so maybe she picked that particular flower for its mythological connotations as well. After all, the hyacinth in this poem is the man's obsession, not the poet's...

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realise whose talk page he's on. I want to echo the same concerns, particularly about this pre-quotation comma that you seem to be inserting everywhere. It is incorrect. Please do not continue to do this. I see one in the "Chord-system" article you've

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Also, it would help if you reviewed the material to make sure you weren't misinterpreting it. You know, not everybody can be right all the time, that's just how it goes. There will be times when other editors point out your mistakes... It's nothing

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The second illustration in the article, the one after there is talk about boogie woogie being based on 12 bar blues, does not seem to be showing a typical blues I IV V progression. No? And if I have to ask thins, wouldn't there be a better example?

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Overall, it is best to teach the perfect intervals first, as they are earlier reflections in the overtone series. Then teach the major intervals because they pair out better with respect to the major scale, tetrachords, and the cycle of 5ths.

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about a typo that appears to be from a recent edit you made there. Could you please correct the image file and, if appropriate, the accompanying sound file? Alternatively, if this is not an error, perhaps an explanatory note would be

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thus need to be an integral part of the article. As the author of the "musical phrasing" article, I feel the concepts are interesting and disjoint enough, to be kept in separate articles. Waiting sincerely for your nod of approval.

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is "too long". But it's not really "too long", it's off in intonation but "working as designed" to make the combination of valves and and slides as easy to use as possible under the imperfect circumstances of the valved brass system.

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In any case, there have been times in the past where, in hindsight, I wondered if perhaps I should have more carefully considered my "tone". I don't believe that this is one of those cases. If anything, it may be possible that I was

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Having seen your last edit summary and understanding that you don't dispute her Helena residency, I'm confused why you removed the state senator — do you think that she's not notable? State legislators are explicitly mentioned at

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I cannot claim any special knowledge of, or familiarity with, Lettriste theory. I am much more knowledgeable of Situationist theory and practice, and only know the Lettristes because of their association with Debord, et al. This

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hope I made sense and that this comment may be of some use (well if you don't think it's worth the bother editing / replacing the image anyway that's fair enough - hope I didn't trouble you pointing out such a minute detail ... )

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Just seen you did the merge, thanks. As an appreciator of KC/Fripp music it is good to see your page saved from the claws of speedy deletion :) BTW, interesting user page - specially the anti-homophobia and music-related contents

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I googled "Peter van der Merwe" music and then clicked Google scholar. I found one decent reference and added it to the article. There are others, if you want to add them too. (In which case the new tag can be removed!) Cheers

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I.E. The top stave has a single triplet figure over the whole bar, as is the lower staff; but it appears from the corresponding discussion it should illustrate the comparison of THREE quaver-triplets to ONE crotchet-triplet.

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May i ask why you deleted a good section of the Katy Perry talk page? Yes i know there is bullshit from the anti-Katy brigade but i think it should be allowed to remain as worse controversy has on other pages as an archive.

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will point to it. I hope you agree. If there's some Knowledge policy that I am not aware of, which forbids links to redirected pages, please feel free to change again the link. By the way, thank you for your previous edits.

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Not sure if you knew or not.. doesn't look like the IP user informed you, but he tagged it for speedy deletion. I'm contacting you because you're the original creator of this template. Do you have a need for it still? --

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Hyacinth, thanks for the friendly welcome. Would it be possible to run a draft by you for a Knowledge entry I'd like to create for Gertrude Stein's play, "White Wines." I don't see it in Knowledge yet. --mistermysterio

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Sorry it took a while to respond, I have been busy with other things recently. I'm no expert on music theory --The last time I studied music theory was in the 1970s -- but it seems to me that you are both correct, as

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field. What I'm surprised at is the subject: Sonata form is not a really difficult, tangled and obscure subject. It isn't very political and there's no money attached to it. So why these difficulties with this page?

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article with no references can be okay, and your attempts to have certainly not convinced me in the least. Thus I will continue to chase people up who don't cite sources, while looking a bit closer at page histories.

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I find it insulting that you would accuse me of disrupting Knowledge to prove a point after you advised me to do so: "If you have concerns about a Wikipedian category, please feel free to nominate it for discussion."

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Oh, sorry about that, I obviously didn't look closely enough at the page history. I still certainly think that all articles should be referenced, and in this case I think I would prefer your redirect left as it was.

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Hyacinth, I see you are an administrator. I suggest you calm down and take the night off. Such shocking display of policy ignorance and bad wikiquette is heading you in the direction of some noticeboard or other...

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this is the second time you revert my edits without explaining why. This is very unpolite. In my edit summaries I carefully explained my edits. You can disagree, of course, but you can't ignore my explanations. —

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Do you care to retract your accusation of racism? It's not that I see this group as trivial — it's simply that I don't think that they get to define "native" more than anyone else, just as I don't think that the

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Up above on this page, you state that unsigned messages can't be returned/traced. If that's true, how did you trace my unsigned entries? Is there a way for me to trace entries I may have made but forgot to sign?

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If you have a folder on your computer full of your black and white music images, and can make them available on the net somehow, I can probably whip together a script to convert them all into SVG form in one go.

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Can you explain me some more about your ideas? What's the frequency of a septimal minor third if the fundamental is 700Hz? And what is the frequency of the seventh harmonic and what is the frequency of the sixth

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If I might offer a suggestion, instead of feeling sour grapes, or presuming that you are being prosecuted unfairly, or that a double standard is in place, or whatever else it is that you may be feeling, instead,

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That is, your own edit, earlier today, states that Link Wray "invented" (unqualified in any way) the power chord and citing a source for the statement! So why didn't you simply add the same information to the

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Hi. This is to explain that I have taken out the Glass example because this infobox is not for classical musicians, also there's a specific guideline against using these boxes for composers' biographies at

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10:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Yeah well if you have a spare year of your life - there are attendant issues at about 2,000 articles in the Indonesia project - but hey - one is enough for the moment so thanks

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If you're truly looking for helpful information, I have no problem being helpful in this way. Consider that you're the one setting the tone here, I'm merely attempting to respond to what I'm seeing. -

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explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

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someone who quite obviously either is quite unexperienced in categorisation (not just Wikipedian categorisation), or is feigning so (intentionally being obtuse) to push a personal POV. (I'd like to

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Note that since valves lower the pitch, a valve which causes a pitch to be too low (flat) must itself be too large (sharp), while a valve which causes sharp pitches must itself be to small (flat).

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the doubtful midifile for the harmonic series, I left a note on the talk page to explain why. Now you reverted without comment. Could you please state why you think this file is not misleading?

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Longer tubes sound flatter than shorter ones. How can "too large" be sharp? I just put the page back where it was before that addition; clarification needed here before restoring that text. __

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article: "Albright contrasts this motivation with "expressive urgency" and "obedience to rules of craft"". What do the quoted phrases refer to? Could you provide an exact quote from Albright?

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Recently, the category Queer Wikipedians was deleted, and all pages were removed from the category. I see that you have added yourself back into the now-deleted category, thus re-creating it.

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I would disagree with that assertion. It is, afterall, a deletion review, aka a deletion discussion and that's what he's doing, even if it is with almost everyone. Nothing wrong with that. --

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solve problems. All this made not hearing anything from you all the more disconcerting. I am very disappointed but still appreciate your having looked through the article one more time.

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method you play make the counterpart (6/7 from 1/7) audiable as well as the overtone. So you hear the 7th harmonic as well as the pitch of the septimal minor third in the bell like tone.

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there are two pictures which correctly show semitones, rather than semitones plus octaves. Even when the two notes share the same staff position. I think this is the clearest approach.

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Just a question to this, since it looks like an error to me: what's that straight line between the Db and the C from the 3rd to the 4th bar in the right hand? Looks really odd... -andy

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Hello! Do you really thank that Maderna is of low importance? Right, the article is far from being good. But Maderna is a quite important figure, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. --

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article (in maths). I'm trying to get a nice list of musical interval sound samples (octave, tritone, minor third, semitone, perhaps quarter-tone and cent) and I came across your

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Never mind, I have this habit of writing before actually seeing. I see you've used both. I wish they could come up with a version of Template:Listen that would fit more inline. --

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preferred wording of a category name, then I'm sorry, but then I don't think that there would be anything further to discuss, except a suggestion to just "let it go", and move on.

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Usually you are a lot clearer than that. What's up? I ask on your talk page so you can clear this out of sight when you feel like it. No real need to answer... Dude, be well. __

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With all due respect, that does in fact look like a pointy nomination. On the surface, anyway, it appears that you are saying "I can't have mine so nobody else can, either." --

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I'm sorry, but I don't have a copy of Ottman's elementary harmony anymore (I had only borrowed it from a friend for a few weeks a while back). I have no idea what page it's on.

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indeterminate chord" because of the absent third. Where exactly did you see this contraction? By the way, now that you acknowledge the use of fifths as chords, please chime in

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Is this the best way to reach other users, or is there some other message mechanism available? Also, feel free to delete this entry. I just didn't know how else to reach you.

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process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Knowledge's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also

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And stop with the sillyness about the reference being no better (or marginally better, or whatever the hell you are trying to say) than nothing. You could also say that

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gives an advice, (it says "should generally be"). This is a specific case, in which it is advisable in my opinion to publish an image about 25% larger than the maximum

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I'm still learning the software, and I've gotten a little annoyed with old Gertrude, so I've lost some of my enthusiasm for writing her biography. Good thing, huh?

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Thank-you, Hyacinth, for accepting my "Giant Steps, Central Park West, and Modulatory Cycles" article as an external link on the Knowledge "Coltrane Changes" page.

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you are doing a great job with your figures and audio files. However, if possible, would you mind to show commas as they are, rather than added up to an octave?

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owned by her and her company Jackson Films Inc. Please let me know if you need direct authorization from her and how she can get that to you, Thanks, Jen Ollman

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I see that my pleads for civility have fallen on deaf ears. I have to go, you have plenty of time to formulate your reply and I sure hope for a better attitude.

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It doesn't really explain it for non-experts; I mean, non-jazz musicians, even. Are there more explicit simple ways of laying out the concepts and techniques?

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You'll please pardon my laughter, it's in no way directed towards you, but I must say that if you believe that assertion, Knowledge is not the site for you : )

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