642:. Someone needs to go through his uploads (which may have been transferred to Commons by now) and get rid of them all! In the past when confronted by the fact he's just taken copyright images, Mwhite148 has just simply repeated the implausible claim they were made by a friend - he's still a schoolchild which probably explains his behaviour. I don't have time to deal with this and so apologies for "dumping" it on you - you just seemed the most appropriate person to let know given that you closed that PUF discussion. Hopefully you can find an image-copyright wikignome to do the grunt work - if I knew a board where they hung out, I'd have taken it there instead, any suggestions where to look in future?
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while the dispute is ongoing, the tag ought to say. The logical conclusion of your argument is that you like the title, so it shouldn't go up. That doesn't follow. And 2) you argue this isn't the first go around. So what? Clearly the issue has been brought up before without going anywhere. Unless you can point me to a thread on the talk history that shows where this was resolved (good luck with that, but I have my doubts). Thus, if the debate is unresolved, and the request is not ridiculous to the point of absurdity (e.g., "we should move it to
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it would never go up. I never said it was perfect. It changed quite a bit... but I'm kinda lost. is the newest version of my thing relevent? I felt like the fact that the church eventually had to save their pastor's national bacon made it a big enough deal, regardless of how we define who's name the pastor made the original statement in. this whole first week i feel like I've stomped through some weird delicate ecosystem but I'm just editing the way I'd edit a term paper or a group assignment back in college. what are your thoughts dude?
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need to go step by step if everyone is really serous to want to solve this dispute. So the tag is the very first and essential step, which means at least all participants should admit there is dispute on the title. If we cannot go through this step, forget next step. Otherwise, as you mentioned, this discussion will go nowhere, and will go along a dead loop again and again. It just wastes time. It was far beyond my expectation that the NPOV tag itself can cause such problem. ...--Lvhis (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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enough to attract attention even before anyone knew who he was doesn't speak well of his chances of becoming a positive contributor, but (2) the "standard offer" isn't going to result in anything any worse than what is going on right now (whacking the new socks every few months). Do you have any objections to giving the user what he wants? (Namely, a blessing to come back with a new account on or after
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time. The audacity of this individual to continue his warring on an ANI thread. I do not want to continue this with him; he is a troll, a sockmaster with over 100 sockpuppets, and a vandal. I have created a registered account, as someone suggested on the ANI thread I do, and I will not use it until I am notified of the consensus view on the situation. I do not want to engage a troll and vandal; please tell him to stay away. I do not understand why he keeps getting away with this. Thanks.
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1451:, leads me to believe that you will accept no compromise – even if only for the interim time, until the formal dispute resolution process is finished, after which the tag will be removed, and the title changed (or not change) to reflect the outcome of that formal process. I had believed I had clearly stated those were the terms of having the tag placed on the article. However, I fear that once the process runs it's course, and the outcome is not in
931:" below on 06:14, 16 May 2011. BTW, for what I did on this issue I think I also deserved the AGF, but did not deserve a suppositional 24 hour block that was mainly resulted from that you were busy and didn't read the discussion closely enough. I was and am surprised that the NPOV-title tag itself has made a big deal there, and fully agree on what you described as "such a stupid thing". I ever left a message on Feb 25 in
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verifying any vandalism that I did. For your kind information I suspect Kerala related pages in wiki are in the hands of
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which is why I included it and people agreed that a criticisms section was needed. in fact I discovered by looking at 2006 history logs that it had one but lyoncc chipped and chipped away at it till it was donefor. a major institution needs a criticism/controversy section especally when it finds itself criticized and controversied wouldn't you say?
695:, who you have indefinitely blocked. I don't know if either one is likely to be Meowy; perhaps the SPI doesn't answer that. MosMusy has broken 3RR, according to my analysis, and it's about Armenia. This would show a common interest between him and Meowy. What would you think of an indef block of MosMusy for abusing multiple accounts? Thanks,
2683:(39 pairs of trains). You can get these informations from the above mentioned Indian Railway website. It is proved that some anonymous ips and users tried to mistook to administrators and they succeeded it. They all are Trivandrum biased editors. If you look at their contributions in detail you can find it. Then about
1551:, you stated "As a constructive step, can you point to a threshold we can cross together?". I already did. Compromise with the editors on the other side of the issue and allow the tag to be placed on the article while the mediation takes place, then once mediation is over (however the outcome), it will be removed. –
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person, looks like, it is. I even provided diffs of his nationalistic edits in previous years where he added
Armenian flags to Azerbaijani articles and added "Armenia Forever!". Where does this stand and how is this supported by the spirit of Knowledge?? Last I heard sockmasters should be blocked. Thank you.
1481:, before accusing me of not reading the substantive threads and discussion and research done on what the title of the article should be, please check your facts. Did I not go through the archives and search for relevant discussion content for the purpose of filing the Request for Mediation? Did I somehow
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It also explains why so many of these images of living people are of such good quality. Either that template is a spectacular success at making people upload images about their subjects (with a high percentage of people closely connected to the subjet), or it's a spectacular success at helping people
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On to another issue. I will begin using my account perhaps after today when this particular discussion is over, and so I will likely no longer edit with this IP address. I may not receive any messages placed on the talk page because I won't be paying attention to it. I think that it is better to have
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I have placed sanctions on the editor; however, he is appealing, and I think it's only fair that I ask a second opinion from another administrator. I cannot promise how the conversation will go, but we certainly plan to make it fair. Without question, someone will be upset by the outcome. By the way,
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I understand and I appreciate your response but considering the fact that he vandalized the page
Azerbaijan in the past by nationalistic comments like "Armenia forever" and replacing Azerbaijani flag and coat of arms with Armenian, AND that he does the same thing with his Mov25 account AND then again
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I don't mind if that page got locked, but do mind it was locked without that tag. Without that tag, the discussion is just like "closed door" discussion. I think this discussion needs to attract more users or readers, as an "open door" discussion as
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you seem cool man. thanks for all your help. maybe you can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm going crazy here. originally I posted that thing as opposed to talk about it cause I knew the people who wanted me to use the talk page wanted to talk it into oblivion so there would neve rbe a consensus and
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I'm a noob I admit it. I read your article on coat racks and I compared it to my post on saddleback. I admit that the original was rough but I was more than willing to let other editors edit it to their liking which they did. It was entirely relevent to major political action the church took in 2008
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I saw your message related to my picture being up for deletion. If you check the first one I uploaded you'll see it's of inferior quality. Also, I don't understand what you mean by "obsolete". The theater is still there and at the same location, unless you mean something else please reply and let
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Magog, I can't believe this, but the sockpuppet of
Mykungfu -- 24* -- is edit warring on the ANI thread you began. I posed a response to an editor there and 24 moved it. I reversed that move once and requested in the edit summary that he not move it again, however he went ahead and moved it a second
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thank you for stepping in. I know that at least a controversy section is appropriate for an
Orginization of this size. I was attempting to get the ball rolling. can you tell us in the saddleback talk page what we have to do to get it in? FYI FYI Lyoncc follows my every move to make sure nothing bad
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No I don't have a problem with that. Eagles247 and I are both a little sick of the wikilawyering in the situation and kind of just wanted it to go away, which is frankly why we forgot about it. I think a standard offer is a good idea; that said, he did ask a while ago, so if you're going to make a
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Third off: on to what you responded above (I'd really not dwell on the points 1 and 2... I brought them up for simple edification). You seem to have said, 1) the tag is unjustified because the dispute over the name is unjustified. But that doesn't follow at all: the dispute is over the content, and
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You know, Ed, I'm just not very familiar with this case. My comments were related only to another case I was familiar with, and I indefinitely blocked the second user because it was an illegal sock account (but I didn't block the main account, to which he could return). I'm sorry, I'll have to keep
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I don't intend to edit war, and I am aware of the rules. I know that V7-Sport is as well, and yet he continues. I admit I am am annoyed at his following me to that article in order to edit war and don't appreciate his uncivil remarks, including the above accusations he is spreading around and spear
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I guess you're right about the praising by proxy, and the peacock terms should be removed. Nevertheless, Brandston does appear to be all those things, at least according to the IESNA publication cited in note 2. But I get your point and will do. One last thing. Do you have to eventually remove the
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Magog, thanks for the reply. He moved my comment once and I reversed that. He then slickly moved the comment again without actually using the Undo option. So, he moved my comment, I moved it back, and he reverted my move. I stated in the edit summary that I would appreciate if the comment were not
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Second off, I probably shouldn't say anything, but I'm compelled to anyway: it took you five paragraphs to explain why you're offended by the term "verbose." A more..., er..., succinct way to respond would be "Please don't call me verbose, it's the lowest level of disagreement (refer to diagram on
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see them, if you know what I mean. Strictly speaking, we probably should get OTRS permission, but I really doubt it will be an issue. We can always just take it down with a DMCA notice; I know that sounds bad, but the uploader did say "I am the author", and we have no way of disproving that's her
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Dear Magog, I posted an image I created by adding some overlay graphics to some NASA and USGS images. I received an automated email, and tried to add the source info, but all the wiki markup and jargon is getting me really confused. I hope I did it right. The image is really truly bonafide clean.
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to wiki. Actually I took a gap in May month in wiki. Surprisingly, the same samaleks is missing the same May month. Then I came in to wiki on June, suddenly user
Samaleks reached in wiki. I do not have any solid proofs regarding these. I request you to check at least my contributions to wiki for
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Dear Magog, First of all this is not a request. Here I am providing some facts, and please accept it, if it is good for wiki. You have completely mistook my views and edits. On May 4th you blocked me due to edit warring in Kochi. Once you told me “If you will agree to wait for consensus before
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All I see is that he moved your comment, which you found inappropriate. That's not edit warring - he didn't revert even once. Edit warring necessarily involves multiple reversion, and the only reversion was by you (which was justified; anything else would have been unjustified). In any case, feel
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Hi Scott: thanks for bringing the discussion to my talk page. I want to first off state I'm only giving my opinion: it's not something that's written in gold anywhere, and good-faith users will probably disagree on it. That said, I feel pretty strongly in this case that the criticism section was
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asking about the "standard offer". It looks like this ANI thread disappeared with no real decision of any kind. My personal opinion is (1) I don't especially think it's the best use of our time to worry about rehabilitating contributors with issues and that his edits evidently were tendentious
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Yes, I think it's entirely appropriate, because there is an ongoing dispute on the issue. At this point, I can only say: shame on them for making a big deal out of such a stupid thing, but shame on you for trying to remove a legitimate tag letting the casual reader know about a disagreement just
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Response to Tenmei: first off, I don't think AJL was making an ad hominem: it was a simple request to say what you have to say less verbosely. I have experience with this: some editors on
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Why does this person get away with sockpuppeting when his MosMusy account was blocked, then being blocked as Mov25, and finally continuing the same behavior as MosMusy after Mov25 was now blocked. I thought sockpuppeting and sockmastering was not encouraged. But now I see with handling of this
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Well they're two different images; they clearly don't belong in the same file. BTW, the way to split an image is to delete it, and restore only the versions that aren't on commons. Then, if the image is covering up the commons version because they have the same filename, you can either move
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articles were dealt with during the 2009 arbitration, trying to put any controversy/criticism (particularly in the Warren article) in the body of the article, rather than call it out separately. There are 7 archive pages of the arbitration linked in the most recent discussion section of the
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1782:@Magog the Ogre. MosMusy's 2-3 year old edits presented here are really bad... In the meanwhile, to clarify who you deal with, I would like to draw your attention to Neftchi's recent edits. Being aware that Onnik Krikoryan is not just a blogger, but also a reputable journalist (see
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that we afford others out of fairness, and because we'd want them to afford it to us when they think they're right but we're convinced their wrong. Unless you're unable to fathom any way whatsoever that they could be entitled to a different opinion than you (in which case, see
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Hi, Maldives was like Afghanistan, no copyright protection. So I based the template on PD-Afghanistan. Perhaps the link to the US code is useless. I will have to do more research on this. But Maldives only introduced copyright protection in 2010. I can see that we need a
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article:- Somebody trying to put Nemom railway station name Trivandrum Nemom. There is no such name for that station. For any reference www.indianrail.gov.in. and also somebody put some express trains stop there. Till date (14/06/2011) no expess trains stops at Nemom. Then
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Responding to the first question: I don't see it being moved twice. Maybe I'm just missing something. In response to the second, we can wait for this discussion to finish up, and then we will do with CATW whatever we allow for the rest of your accounts (IP, new account).
2647:, Commercial Capital of Kerala is a valid one and a group ips and users trying to remove it. The commercial capital tag is an official and it has n number official and unofficial references. The tags for other cities in kerala remain same without any reference. For eg:
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My apologies for using your talk page as a sandbox, however for the purposes of the testing, I could not use the WP:Sandbox, nor my own. If you have any questions for me about the purpose (if not obvious), please feel free to ask away on my talk page. Thanks, –
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And third -- how can I go about getting the CAtruth block removed? I can't access the account, but I just want to avoid any future headaches. I would appreciate if it could be unblocked. Again, I don't think I'll ever be able to use it again anyway. Thanks.
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Blocked. IIRC, this isn't the first time this has happened with Bijuts, but seeing as I lack definitive proof that the IP is him, I will not extend his block log. Don't worry about it; prolific sockers always end up indef blocked anyway in the end
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because you like the status quo. If it were up to me, I'd think that a 24 hour block (given the warnings previously meted out on this page) of Lvhis, Oda Mari, STSC, and John Smith's would have been more appropriate than locking the page.
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of him replacing the flag inappropriately and literally vandalizing? In the right circumstances, the edits you describe might be legitimate, but in many they might not be; vandalism isn't appropriate, and I'm sure Mov25 is aware of that.
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1188:-- Is it fair to conclude that you each appear to accept one or more implied premises? IMO, your acceptance of unstated premises only serves to endorse and validate a concurrent refusal to acknowledge or engage what has gone before.
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Hmm; well thanks! I think I need to add something about the turmoil in Syria though; thousands of people being murdered by the government while people in the rest of the world complain about... tax rates. But I do appreciate!
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Hi Magog, you recently tagged this page as an advertisment. Thank you for pointing out the poor writing. The page has now been rewritten and a few other sources have been added. Do you think the tag can be removed? Thanks
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Oh right; yeah, if I had seen it was you that marked it, I would have just deleted it. I think the rules are a bit overkill with file formats, but as a user on commons, surely you know that people can get upset (a little
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I like your "Completely original and (hopefully non-partisan) observations about political issues, from an American perspective" especially Russia+journalist - it is good that sb see this problem with media
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I'm not sure I understand your statement in its entirety. Nevertheless, I can affirm that you jumped into this edit war late, and were as guilty as anyone, and frankly deserved to be blocked.
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and understands that 3rr is not a license to make 3 reversions but is steadfastly ignoring that. He is obviously trying to suck me in and get me booted again. He has reverted twice,
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he added Armenian power and vandalized the page. This editor very well knows the rules and yet he continues to defy Knowledge rules and regulations. I gave more examples in the
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editing again, you may be able to avoid sanctions”. That means, eventhough it is a valid information, we shoulld convince all those who are against it illogically? For about
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I could have just left it be, and let it be deleted as an unused non-free, but I thought it was dishonest to not mention it is free. Image politics can get so complicated.
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my judgment to myself, as I know basically nothing more than you. However, given that it is regarding Armenia, you might consider heavier sanctions, like a topic ban.
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1263:, but the
1261:ad nauseam
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1058:Ad Hominem
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504:template.
399:Thanks!--
173:Apologies
117:Nigel Ish
3477:contribs
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1803:Ashot
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