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running, I beam, box girder type, Patented track, free standing bridge crane, ridged double girders and single girder, telescopic bridge cranes, Suspension bridge cranes. That’s just to name a few. From my own experience as an expert I can tell you in a case like this a large amount of information could be a bad thing. I think it might be best to be careful that the page does not start to get out of control. I am the Product Manager for North America for the 2nd largest crane company in the world and have been with the company 23 years. Just thought I should say since I claim to be an expert. If you go look at the page

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night. As for the 'mainstream sources,' these are the most mainstream you're going to find - books and articles published within the last two years. Yes, the conspiracy theory bit is a bit without supporting evidence - but that's because, um, they're conspiracy theories. They have the barebones of evidence and what people make assumptions with. Perhaps rather than removing the information, you could help us add to it instead? Where would you prefer we find more 'mainstream sources'?

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against Knowledge policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Knowledge. Thank you. Old Moonraker (talk) 07:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)" But did you have to eliminate all of my first attempt at editing? Was nothing worthy of adding? Was the strengthening (updating) of the leading women's roles notable?

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Apologies for adding it a 2nd time without logging in I did not know why it was removed, I would have thought that pictures of steam trains would have been useful and relative to visitors searching Knowledge for steam trains, the photos on the site are sent in from the public (steam train enthusiast

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I've added back some of the information that I put up originally, considering that a bulk of what was put up - the information on the actual events that happened the night of Marlowe's murder - were taken from a book which was citing the actual coroner's report/"police report" on what happened that

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see what you think of that page. It’s messy and jumps topics. I would really like if you and I worked together to try to clean up a few pages in regards to cranes. I travel to Europe all the time and I am in the UK regularly. Maybe I could have us meet our facility in Banbury UK. Just an idea

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So I guess my question is, since I am the creator and originator of the content (the video on youtube), and I am allowing free and universal use without permission to use my video, is there a special protocol that I need to follow in order to include the youtube link in the article? Aside from the

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If there proves to be a consensus for inclusion, would you consider some more context, to make it of some value to readers? A google search didn't enlighten me as to the circumstances of the story, no explanation is offered for the basis of the claim and the musical itself seems obscure: it doesn't

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Hi - thanks for the message on my talk page. I have tried to insert a small piece of factual information for the reader on the Silbury Hill entry but this is getting blocked. I am simply adding my name to those of previous archaeological excavators at Silbury Hill who are cited in the article and I

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shown, perhaps imprecisely, as "demolished" in the WP article. Just dragged my 1:10560 map off the shelf but it didn't have the detail to show the extant millrace you noticed. The ponds just upstream seem to have been fishponds, belonging to St James's Priory, rather than millponds. Today's "Oxted

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at the same link. There is no violation of neutral point of view in the article in question, merely reporting that Mr. Haase was planning to sue at the time. Again, I repeat that if the Twitter link is troublesome, I shall not repost it again, but I see no reason here not to include the article in

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with diffs, as indicated on the article talk page. You have removed the notice apparently without reading the comments I added as you requested on the talk page, where you made no comment, and without looking at the report. Please self revert and wait for adminsitrators to deal with the copyvios.

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I have been thinking and looking around and I am not sure if you adding the rotary crane information might not be the best idea. The reason is people could start naming many types of bridge cranes. For example if I were to name a few: Double girder bridge crane, single girder, Top running, under

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Without the page number one could spend hours trying to find the information. That said I understand that it is not a requirement. All this aside, I am in Kate State University and looking at the book. I found the picture prior to the reference information very good. This could be helpful for

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Thanks for the feedback Old Moonraker; I was wondering if you can help me understand the YouTube restrictions. I created the YouTube video myself, and own the copyright. Do I have to indicate that somewhere on YouTube or Knowledge or the link itself? Thanks again for your help with this, my first

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could be reinserted in the list of External Links. The Forum is not a personal site, has no commercial purpose and solicits neither donations nor subscriptions (unlike some sites currently included in the list). The Forum exists solely to promote and facilitate the dessemination and discussion of

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I don't like the new template because it contains the WP symbol for a sound file—but there isn't one—and I haven't (after admittedly only a casual search) seen any discussion. However, that's not the main point: please don't change my signed talk page comments, for any reason, as it contravenes

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Thanks, Old Moonraker, for this: "Welcome to Knowledge. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Knowledge pages, as you did to The Winter's Tale. Advertising and using Knowledge as a "soapbox" are

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Thank you for your prompt and succinct reply. Having studied the rules more closely it's clear why discussion forums, in potentially lacking factual content, would be inappropriate to link. In the apparent absence of an immediately compelling justification for removing links to other Chesterton

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notes: "the burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". The burden on all editors is to preserve accuracy, to give proper weight where there are opposing theories, and to do this in a transparent way that gives the readers confidence that they're getting a balanced

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The bridge was dismantled in 1967-1968. This is verifiable by watching the movietone news clip linked in the article. If som eother book states 1970, then it's wrong. But I don't plan to argue, this is precisely the sort of thing that drove me away from editing in the first place.

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A steam engine has a low pressure circuit, after the condensor and a high pressure circuit, after the boiler. This is not "original research" but simple thermodynamics. Any pump between these two circuit has to overcome the pressure difference. Here is an example:

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is monitored by editors for whom this is a "specialist subject"; they may feel differently. As far as the invitations to subscription sites: these are also forbidden—and I may try to find time to review these—but the WP version of "two wrongs don't make a right" is

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I looked and read, but the reference did not further explain a rotary crane. Now I do have some pictures on rotary cranes and I could explain in details how it works. Did you want me to do that and show you first? (BTW sorry I did not explain first mistake...)

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in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please:

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Actually, I don't own the copyright, but I am the creator of the video and I am allowing free use of the video - I believe I uploaded the video as well to the WikiCommons site. Is there an alternative option I have to include in the rainbow article?

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I don't mean to be rude, but I felt that I did act within the guidelines of Knowledge. I cited Mr. Haase himself and a press report corroborating his statement about a planned lawsuit against Miramax regarding plagiarism on the part of the authors of

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The source "Aigualluts" (Trou de Toro? no such name in Spain, nor Spanish, Aranese, or Catalan for that place) is at 2.000 m.a.s.l., and the indicated source (Salterillo-Barrancs ravine) is at 2.300 m.a.s.l. The junction Joéu-Garona is at 800

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Why am I getting messages saying I'm vandalizing pages? This is absurd! I'm citing everything I write. Now you've deleted my contibutions that have been referenced, and it's information I got from a lecture from a doctor....which I cited.

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Great find! Could you add a short lede to the Crooked River section on the various articles. Give me a shout if you need assistance with the diagram. Does the Crooked River enter the Eden from the left or right (looking downstream)?

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CryoVision is a good example of a 3D simulation, so what if it was developed by a company? Is the problem in the format of the link or in the fact that it was developed by a company? maybe you have better idea on how to present it?

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information and thought concerning G.K. Chesterton, something that I would hope to be relevant to the purpose of Knowledge itself. I appreciate the efforts of all involved in maintaining this and other Knowledge entries.

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And that is most readers' (mine included) only source. I think that, between us, we have certainly established the need for context; your expansion, above, is the sort of stuff that would need to go in. You would need to

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Yes the book is really long with many pages. What did you think of the old picture of the Rotary crane on page #128 Did you want to post beside the paragraph maybe? (Oops never mind you posted already looks really

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Please look at the copyvio report before making reverts as you just did. I followed precisely the instructions in the case of unambiguously identified copyvios. Now please self-revert, as I requested. Thanks,

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We have a bot converting old IPA templates with an eye towards deprecating the dozen or so templates used now and standardizing Knowledge. If you revert the changes it will just show up on the bot again.

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The musical is actually far from obscure, though there is little Internet coverage of it. In brief, in terms of similarities, the show is also about Shakespeare writing the world's most famous love story,

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seems to be settling around the relative merits for inclusion of yourself and Jim Leary. As EH gives you prominence on the web page there doesn't seem to be any reason why we shouldn't do the same. --

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Uploading media files is way outside my comfort zone, but as far as I know if you have an account on English Knowledge, this is valid on Wikimedia Commons—the WP equivalent of YouTube—as well.

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But did you see the CryoVision page with all its 3D pictures? Don't you think its on the right place there? One can remove the second link, and leave only the link on the simulation?

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That seems to have fixed it. Still needs tweaking to make all text same size. Those with small writing need the final | before the text removing and they should all then come good.

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The Crooked River is actually the Kent Brook by another name in its upper reaches. I'll tweak the articles as you suggest to make this plain. I am struggling with the diagram: see

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You are right: the byte count remained unchanged. So: to assist other editors and avoid confusion about your motives, please don't forget to explain what you're about in the

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Reference strengthened with a quote and restored, again: it echoes the material in text. I shouldn't have to do this; you should make the effort to access the work. See

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is quite specific: links to "chat or discussion forums/groups" are to be avoided, and I won't be reinstating this one. This is, of course, only one editor's opinion and

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if you want a laugh. I haven't given up yet, mind; the next stage is to delete the section marked "Christxxmas", unwanted from the part I copied as as "shortcut". --

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Received; I see that you have an interest in both Haxted Mill and Oxted mills. Give me some time to think about it, but the real expert on mills in the area is

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if you don't accept Krishna consciousness, you'll remain in material world form millions of kalpas (that means - many millions of years, and many lifetimes)

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I truly didn't mean to imply that you were in any way a creepy talk-page watcher. Sorry - sometimes what I think I've written isn't what I've written at all.

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to see how to deploy verifiable citations. It helps reader confidence if your sources are easily accessible to other editors, but this isn't essential: see

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item 1: "Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article." Take it to the experts at

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Furthermore, The Ruda-Garona runs for some 12 km before joining the “Garona de Beret” stream. The Ruda Valley is the natural head of Arán (Garonne) Valley.

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licensing requirements; which it appears I fulfill and meet, I don't find anything prohibiting me from using my own link. Please advise. Thanks again -

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I can understand if the site was irrelevant but noticed links to other steam trains sites so I thought it would be fine and potentially useful? Thanks

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reminds us, looks highly suspicious. I couldn't verify any one of them, and I looked hard. However, not all these edits were as counter-intuitive as

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Hello! I haven't yet, but will be reviewing the page carefully in the coming days. Thanks for your concern and interest in my students' project. cm

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I've read quite a bit about the murder, but so far I seem to have missed the police report. Some of your "facts" are actually incorrect and they

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Better luck this morning: both your links are now working. "Avtech Scientific attaining the vision/our fields of expertise" is beyond doubt

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The problem is that user-generated content ("join us in using, creating and sharing historical geographic information") isn't regarded as

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and to avoid needlessly revisiting settled, old issues it might be worth your while to set aside some time to look over this. --

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let me know what you think, but your experience and espertise with Knowledge and mine with cranes could work great together.--

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A couple of contributions using untraceable citations chalked up to Dr Behm could be mistakes but a series of sixteen, as

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Why so should be Aigualluts considered the Garonne source? Please, will you have a look at this and correct the article?

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Thanks for the good faith and the advice - you're absolutely right and I've added the link to the Coast of Utopia page.

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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace this non-free media by finding freely licensed media of the same subject,

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Sorry, no ideas at all. If you post a link to a software company, it shows them in a better light if the link actually

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I dislike encountering spam on Knowledge, so you may prefer a second opinion from some other contributors: call at

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Furthermore, the Joèu provides 2,16 m3/s. of water to the Garonne, wich before joining the Joèu carries 17.7 m3/s. .

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I note that your posting was just after the run opened (and congratulations on the reviews), and this informed my

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societies, would you have any objection to inclusion of the long established (1974) UK based Chesterton Society?

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I've made a few updates, based on Alderton's book and other sources. She doesn't suggest that "The Wheatsheaf"

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I have turned on my email: see left. Are you sure I'm the editor you are looking for? I've only contributed to

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My contribution to the article with this info has being delete without an apparent or reasoned reason. Why?

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people to understand what exactly is described. Just a though if you think it would be worthwhile.--

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The Winter's Tale by Shakespeare - edit to add Guthrie Theater 2011 production with notable updating.

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Not sure exactly what the problem is here. Grid refs for mills being discussed would be useful. This

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This is how understood copyvios are dealt with, from the instructions on the copyvio page. Thanks,

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for discussion. If any mill's entry can be expanded from other sources, please feel free to do so.

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From the general to the specific: a lot of this has been gone over (in exhausting detail) on the

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Given the immutability of my composite elements, I believe that you are likely to be correct.--

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ftp://oph.chebro.es:2121/BulkDATA/DOCUMENTACION/DirectivaMarco/Garona/DocumPrevia%202008.pdf

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in the article—the ref shows the address as "Spring Lane", which is correct. The article's

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edit…the comments of other editors without their permission" (emphasis as in original). --

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I know that, you know that, but what we imagine we know doesn't cut it; it needs a

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Thank you for pointing on this. 1) what do you mean with "the link actually

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Thanks for your help: that was really tricky. Mini-ledes next. --

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Hello Old Moonraker - please contact me re Oxted Mills

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I was using my iPhone and accidentally hit rollback.--

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G.K Chesterton External Links - reinsertion request

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