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because of the overwhelming number of articles nominated. With the list below as of this time stamp I have 69 articles I'd at least redirect and nine I'd draft. There's a probably skew in that because there aren't a huge amount of non-anglophone names in the bottom 78 articles on the list and out coverage of lists is better for
English*, Australian and New Zealand cricketers, but it does suggest we should redirect a bunch simply rather than go through the redundancy of creating a draft and then moving that back and then redirecting from there. Which would be interesting but inevitably pretty futile.
92:
being drafted. A quick look at
Olympia suggests notability - and a short search finds multiple obituaries including in The Lancet and a *six page obit* in The Journal of Pathology and Bacteriology. He's clearly notable. Which was obvious from a manual check but I doubt very much that anyone did one
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Might take a bit longer than that I'm afraid - things are busy and I'm editing here a lot less than I was. I'd rather have a chance to check them all, but once they're checked that can be dealt with I think. A small number might be better off taken off the list for a while and passed back to
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Just a comment; obvious redirects I will be working out with Quarry queries, so no need to list them here - the only question is whether you would prefer them to be moved to draft space and then the redirect created, or just the redirect directly created and no draft space article created?
199:
at a minimum - played an awful lot of cricket and it seems very likely that offline sources at least could be found here. Online is trickier in this period, but experience with Otago players suggests very, very strongly that it would be extremely likely things could be found in this
742:- the prose at CricInfo strongly suggests that this is an article to explore a bit more before drafting - by itself it strongly suggests notability and there's also a Wisden obituary. I think there's a case for removing this one from the list for now. A quick search found
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at which point I'll add a note. May well be known as Ross
Morrison and I can't quite work out if he's the Alexander Ross Morrison who was awarded a NZOM in 2016 for services to tennis - lots of things fit but I can't find a definitive connection or very much in terms of
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I was wondering if it might be more efficient for me to simply do the redirections whilst I'm working through? Would that work or would it cause more problems? I don't think any of the ones I've come across so far are particularly controversial.
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I think the following should be removed from the list, since the RfC was confined to articles referenced only to ESPN and
CricketArchive (selection criteria 4) and because additional sources have been added and/or are available:
988:
not entirely sure, but I've done a limited amount of work on it and I think there's the real potential for there to be enough sources there to build this one further. Worth taking off this list and properly thinking about.
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Literally just added that above! The redundancy from a draft article existing is obvious. Much more efficient to simply redirect. They prob do need to be listed because it's not clear in every case where to redirect to.
870:. Sources added and other newspaper articles are in Past Papers. He played in two intercolonial international matches in the 1880s, at least one of which is notable. In a worst case scenario he could be merged to
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Just come across both Kerr articles and there are clearly enough sources for both in the articles. Allen might well be better known as
Charles - per McCarron should anyone be looking for more sources.
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Any idea of the time frame for this process. I've looked at a few which immediately suggest alternate action would be more efficient than creating a draft which will also kick around.
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would also appear to be notable - I've done no more than scratched the surface again, but there would seem to be enough to certainly take the article out of this category.
878:, a collection of scans of New Zealand Newspapers from the National Library of New Zealand. This raises, in relation to New Zealand cricketers, the same issues that
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clearly enough here - again, just scratching the surface but came close to being an All Black so a detailed search will turn up a tonne of stuff
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I'm starting at the bottom of the list... I'll keep adding to here - and I'll keep them in the same order so I'll add to the top.
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that scratches the surface. Appears to be clearly notable as a sportsman, an administrator and a businessman.
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and there are several other sources using Dobbo
Townshend as the search term. There's clearly notability here.
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at which point I'll add a note. There's almost certainly more in offline sources but I can find little online
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I've expanded David
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A list of other cricketers who need to be removed from the list after expansion:
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100 senior apps) might be worth a general search as a check
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There's no rush; I'm happy to wait a month or even two.
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List of
Northern Districts representative cricketers#O
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1139:- Auckland selector but v little to be found online
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List of Central Districts representative cricketers
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List of Central Districts representative cricketers
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696:List of Western Province representative cricketers
633:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
467:List of Western Province representative cricketers
422:List of South Australian representative cricketers
367:List of Western Province representative cricketers
358:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
340:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
267:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
235:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
159:List of Eastern Province representative cricketers
394:List of New South Wales representative cricketers
385:List of New South Wales representative cricketers
313:List of New South Wales representative cricketers
178:List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players
114:List of New South Wales representative cricketers
724:List of Western Australia first-class cricketers
169:List of Oxford University Cricket Club players
687:List of Trinidadian representative cricketers
606:List of Trinidadian representative cricketers
523:for who he played the majority of his cricket
431:List of Trinidadian representative cricketers
1217:List of Auckland representative cricketers#W
1207:List of Auckland representative cricketers#S
1197:List of Auckland representative cricketers#S
1187:List of Auckland representative cricketers#S
1177:List of Auckland representative cricketers#R
1167:List of Auckland representative cricketers#R
1157:List of Auckland representative cricketers#R
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1137:List of Auckland representative cricketers#P
1127:List of Auckland representative cricketers#P
1107:List of Auckland representative cricketers#N
1096:List of Auckland representative cricketers#M
1086:List of Auckland representative cricketers#L
716:- there is prose on his Cricinfo bio as well
559:List of Wellington representative cricketers
304:List of Wellington representative cricketers
295:List of Wellington representative cricketers
244:List of Canterbury representative cricketers
197:List of Canterbury representative cricketers
150:List of Wellington representative cricketers
734:List of Tasmanian representative cricketers
624:List of Tasmanian representative cricketers
376:List of Tasmanian representative cricketers
123:List of Barbadian representative cricketers
872:List of Auckland representative cricketers
705:List of Auckland representative cricketers
669:List of Jamaican representative cricketers
660:List of Jamaican representative cricketers
642:List of Guyanese representative cricketers
577:List of Jamaican representative cricketers
531:List of Jamaican representative cricketers
476:List of Auckland representative cricketers
458:List of Auckland representative cricketers
349:List of Guyanese representative cricketers
309:David Johnston (New South Wales cricketer)
714:List of Queensland first-class cricketers
276:List of Essex County Cricket Club players
258:List of Queensland first-class cricketers
678:List of Border representative cricketers
651:List of Border representative cricketers
597:List of Border representative cricketers
588:List of Border representative cricketers
440:List of Victoria first-class cricketers
413:List of Victoria first-class cricketers
322:List of Victoria first-class cricketers
286:List of Victoria first-class cricketers
226:List of Victoria first-class cricketers
128:Dave Richardson (New Zealand cricketer)
403:List of Oxford UCCE & MCCU players
278:as the senior team seems most sensible
161:whom he played most of his cricket for
1004:Charles Stone (New Zealand cricketer)
810:And the same now with Delroy Morgan.
1183:Alfred Scott (New Zealand cricketer)
568:List of Jammu and Kashmir cricketers
550:List of Jammu and Kashmir cricketers
213:David Cooper (New Zealand cricketer)
183:David Blake (New Zealand cricketer)
119:Dave Marshall (Barbadian cricketer)
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254:David Ellis (Australian cricketer)
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858:Entries to remove from the list
204:David Cooper (Indian cricketer)
1092:Alexander Morrison (cricketer)
401:- for now a clear redirect to
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1203:Charles Stafford (cricketer)
436:David Sutherland (cricketer)
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1213:Arthur Williams (cricketer)
1179:. Again, not finding v much
1169:. Not finding anything here
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363:David McMeeking (cricketer)
242:- really clear redirect to
195:- really clear redirect to
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777:07:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
762:07:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
692:Derek Mitchell (cricketer)
174:David Beaumont (cricketer)
165:David Ashworth (cricketer)
103:07:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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61:07:41, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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540:List of Odisha cricketers
512:List of Odisha cricketers
503:List of Bengal cricketers
494:List of Bengal cricketers
485:List of Bengal cricketers
409:David Shepard (cricketer)
336:David Lumsden (cricketer)
300:David Hosking (cricketer)
240:David Dempsey (cricketer)
208:List of Bengal cricketers
1209:. V little to go on here
1073:Additional redirect list
1055:David Weston (cricketer)
1038:Brian Warner (cricketer)
852:13:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
620:Dennis Blair (cricketer)
615:List of Assam cricketers
454:David Weston (cricketer)
390:David Ogilvy (cricketer)
381:David Noonan (cricketer)
222:David Cowper (cricketer)
141:List of Delhi cricketers
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969:Derek Scott (cricketer)
887:Alan Devlin (cricketer)
701:Derek Scott (cricketer)
527:Dean Morgan (cricketer)
517:Dean Potter (cricketer)
399:David Scott (cricketer)
291:David Henry (cricketer)
193:David Boyle (cricketer)
895:Allen Kerr (cricketer)
732:- obvious redirect to
318:David King (cricketer)
272:David Gray (cricketer)
231:David Daly (cricketer)
1082:Chris Lee (cricketer)
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1109:. Very little online
933:Added some stuff to
90:Draft:Haswell Wilson
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736:with a note added
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665:Denville McKenzie
656:Dennis Thorbourne
584:Demitri Hayidakis
508:Debabrata Pradhan
95:Blue Square Thing
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