Knowledge talk:WikiProject California/Archive 1

4316:, and other unicorporated neighborhoods that are not CDPs. They all share the same ZIP Code, telephone exchanges, and shopping areas. Their kids all go to schools in the Mill Valley School District. (It is not always clear in a city article where the various editors think the boundaries are, but it is inevitable that the unincorporated areas associated with a city will be addressed in the city article; many residents are not aware of the political boundaries in the first place.) Similarly, some notable neighborhoods are not political subdivisions of the cities in which they are located, but they may sensibly fit into the settlement category, either because of their history prior to annexation or incorporation into the city, or because of some differing pattern of development that sets them apart from their city. Similarly, rural villages are usually not political subdivisions of the county or township in which they are located, at least in the U.S. If you think that somebody is introducing a whole categorization scheme that is impractical or that will lead to constant struggle, I suggest taking the upper-level categories to discussion, rather than lobbying at the talk pages of all of the members of the sub-categories.-- 1056:

availability of abundant oil from the new burgeoning oil fields gave a huge boost to the California economy. California, and the whole west coast lacked one important item for a growing economy - fuel. The east coast had plenty of coal, California had only small deposits of low-grade stuff. Look at early photographs of the gold rush country. Something's missing - trees. Cut down for fuel and timber. Sailing ships used to carry coal in their bilges as ballast, along with regular cargo, when headed to California. That all changed when abundant oil became available in the late 1800's. Railroads, smelters, cement plants, all manner of industrial processes switched from coal to oil to fire their furnaces and boilers. Then came the internal combustion engine - where would California agriculture be without tractors? So, how about a mention of California's "real" gold - the black kind. By the 1930's, the total dollar value of oil produced was something like 100 times more than that of gold and silver.

2846:), I stripped much of the content. Later when I saw the mall categories, they first struck me as spam. Then, I realized that 1) malls and their major tenants are important to lots of people (shoppers, realtors, developers, potential small business people), if not to me, and 2) having a good category structure and separate articles (or merged articles by company or region) keeps details that are superfluous to many off the main page for the locale. I think that mall articles should be kept or merged depending on the amount of content. And excessive shopping content in city and suburb articles should be moved out to a mall article. -- 4677:) is used, the image description page that you see on English Knowledge is a combination of the description page on Commons and any local additions (such as local categories). If you attempt to edit the description page on the linking site (not on Commons), you're only editing the local part of the description. If an image is hosted on Commons instead of locally, you'll see a little box under the image that says "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its description page there is shown below."; click on the "description page" link to edit the main description. 6006: 6096:

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have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at

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consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.

5486: 394:. I remember the reason why I thought of the regions too -- there can't be a need to have a category for every city in the state, but there are going to be people from small towns that don't merit a category, and it would be nice to throw them in some other bucket besides "People from California." Perhaps we should have a breakdown by county first? -- 2224:. Because of the amount of text added, I suspect it may actually be a copyright violation (of which most of the text is still there). This was certainly not a concensus change to the article, but it looks like subsequent editors have been content to leave it in the article. You are definitely right that this article has serious problems. There are 2315:. Or do what is often done, the San Joaquin Valley south of Merced is Southern, and Merced and North plus the Sacramento Valley is Northern. Or we could divide it by the rocks. I don't think it's that big a deal. Fresno is Southern, Modesto is Northern, everything in between a blur for much of us. Maybe we need a great confusion buffer zone, 1438:". New userboxes should go in userspace. I don't see a history log or a talk page log so I can't tell if it was a summary deletion or if the creator was offered a chance to move it. But I'm a member of two other U.S. state (PA, VA) WikiProjects that do have associated userboxes so I can't imagine they are "illegal" in and of themselves. 1211:. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at 4136:"The local architect selected to design the stadium, Frank L. Hope and Associates, had never designed a stadium before. Yet in 1969 San Diego Stadium became the only stadium to win the First Honor Award from the American Institute of Architects. The Hope firm also received a commendation award from Governor Ronald Regan." 6095:

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Hello, another user who seems to be a weather wizard (no kidding), reassessed San Diego about 180 out from what I remember it as. Could someone else check? I asked the user if he was certain and on my talkpage, he says he used the chart referenced in the change. I agree with the previous article that

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The good news is only the first and third governors were not on our project. The bad news is most of the early ones are stub articles. The terrible news is most can stand cleanup and wikification. Some of the current living past governors' articles should be reviewed prior to them becoming deceased.

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Thanks for catching that. Since Stanford was Governor of California, among other things, he should definitely be part of this project's scope. Someone should probably go through the entire list of Governors and make sure they're all covered. Also, feel free to add the WikiProject banner to talk pages

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As i told Mike on my userpage, I want the state flag to look proud. As a vexillologist and Californian, it is my duty to get this right. Might take a while, but it is a goal I want to shoot for. I looked at the law again and Mike is right, the text color is in Seal, not black. I made that correction.

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I apologize for not understanding how article editing is suposed to occur. But clearly Knowledge is not a place only to bash a locale for its past. We can do better and I expect all the dirty laundry of every other city to receive its own section, if all the negativity returns to the Eureka article.

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and keep it better maintained. Though, I think the portal would be even better with broader participation. One way to do that is instead of choosing the "selected article" myself each week, if others would nominate articles and help make decisions. (same goes for pictures, though these are stocked

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The same, however, does not always hold true for drawings and photos because the state does use other people's images who retain the copyright, so those would require a separate permission to be used on the Knowledge. However, if the image was produced by an employee of the State of California during

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As far as I know, almost all text from the State of California and its various departments and agencies are in the public domain, although it is best to check the website that you are getting the text from just to verify that. I just used a bunch of the info from the Dept. of Fish and Game website to

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I tried awhile back to get some information from my local state senator and state representative, but got absolutely no response from either of them (which made me so pissed off that I voted for third party candidates against both of them this last election—which didn't make a damn bit of difference

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I hate to say it, but this project is not particularly active, so you're probably not going to get much of a response. As for AfD, I rarely participate in it because I don't want to constantly butt heads with people whose sole purpose on Knowledge is to delete other people's work. The "deletionists"

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that's as of today in your category hierarchy. I reverted it out for Kentucky, and I recommend all states do it as well. Kentucky uses "Subdivisions" and Massachusetts uses "Administrative divisions" (both reasonable). "Settlements" are for pioneer days, not for contemporary political subdivisions.

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My personal opinion is that it may be best to start off creating a Northern California WikiProject, defined as everything not covered by the already existing Southern California WikiProject, and then creating 'daughter' WikiProjects for the Central Valley and the Bay Area when there is enough demand

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I thought you all should know why these categories were created, and felt some degree of responsibility for letting your know. I wish you all the greatest good fortune in making the coverage of your state in Knowledge of the greatest scope and quality possible, and I hope that I haven't annoyed too

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I know that many of these categories might well be, in the eyes of you who know more about the cities in question much better than I do, misnamed or otherwise faulty. I apologize for any mistakes I may have made along those lines, and I would welcome any corrections, including deletion, that any of

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I'm not so sure the hugeness of the category is a big problem. The only problem I can see with it is that the subcategory navigation requires hacks like the leading space to show all subcats on the first page. Otherwise, I don't think that splitting is necessary except wherever there is a clear case

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There has been a small, but very vocal, and very persistent group of editors who have been trying, without much success, to overturn the "city, state" naming convention for US cities. First they tried at the naming convention level, but failed to achieve consensus for their views. They then changed

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Usually the Stub-sorting folks will go ahead and create the stubs and categories they approve, although sometimes they take awhile, and ocassionally they forget. It's best if they do it, because they will make sure that the template doesn't have any extra lines or spaces, or any wonky formatting in

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Simply change the text "Image on Commons" to whatever you want the caption to be; the caption is not tied to the text on either the Commons description page or the local description page. The "thumb" designator puts the image in a captioned frame using either the default or user specified thumbnail

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and noticed it had information about being used for location shooting for several movies. Specifically, it states the freeway scenes in The Matrix Reloaded were filmed there on runways. I do not think there are any runways on Treasure Island. The true location for this information, which is also

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I believe these issues need to be in the public perview, but not in the lopsided way, I found in the Eureka article. I realize I should have made this point before I made sweeping changes in the article, but it was ridiculous as a social historian to allow it to remain. And it was only later in the

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I may end up in a political quagmire here as a result of undoing the ridiculousness of the now (today) removed section on Law Enforcement and the lopsided area on History. I am tempted to walk away, but felt since Eureka is on the WIKIPROJECT CALIFORNIA that I would bring it to the attention of the

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So, does Baja California actually qualify for inclusion within this WikiProject? Before answering, consider the history of California, when all of it was a territory of Mexico, and what was Alta California back then is today the U.S. state of California. That should make it an article "related to

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page. After looking at it more closely, it looks like none of the cities there will ever be notable enough to have their own categories, so nevermind that suggestion. As for the regional ones, I don't think it's a bad way to split the main category, I just think the split will be ambiguous for some

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With a very similar template already existing which can be used as a template, it becomes easier for non-stub experts to create new stubs and categories. If you think that you can do that, I'd say go ahead and create the stub and category. Otherwise, I would suggest asking for help from one of the

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As for the font color, the law is pretty clear that it's the same dark brown as on the bear (called "Seal" in the law). It may be that this part is ignored by flag producers and that black is used instead, as you said in your comment on Commons, but I'd lean toward keeping it the same color as the

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to get rid of, because the article usually includes the history of the mall and its failure. And the AFD you cited was trying to get rid of a whole raft of articles - always difficult (although I have managed it several times.) About the malls I want to merge (or delete): I don't think any of them

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Being new to this community, I unwittingly began an overhaul of the article to get to a foundation and then to rebuild the article in a way that showcases cultural attributes, resources, and history. I was amazed I could do this. But being an historian whose expertise in California history is even

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I discovered a laundry list of messes in the local police department and a diatribe focusing far too much on a slaughter of local natives that occured in 1860. Yes this 1860 nightmare occurred as did many others accross the nation. But what I found unacceptable is that it took the lionshare of the

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The majority of the states have "People from " categories which have at least 200 entries, sometimes over 1,000. This is clearly an unworkably large number for anyone wishing to use the category for research purposes. In 8th grade in Rapid City, South Dakota, the social studies class asked us to

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No. Screenshots in general are considered "derivative works" under copyright regimes. This means that it can only be licensed under the GFDL if the original content was GFDL (or in the public domain). Incidentally, this also applies to your traffic shortcut screenshot above, which you marked with

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proposal for an appreciation week to end on Knowledge Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who

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Mike pointed this out to me after I did my color change of the flag. Well, what I did is I used the official color codes given out by the California State Military Department and I used Adobe Photoshop to get the actual Pantone colors. I am not sure what program was used to get the Pantone, but I

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This category is getting pretty unwieldy with a lot of people. I propose that we create subcategories for regions (North, Central, and Southern) and then furthermore create categories for major cities within those regions. Any opposition? Additionally, I've proposed renaming a few categories like

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BTW, as I got into some articles it was easy to rate them as some had been rated by other project. I think I got the hang of the ratings but need to look more into it. If I had to rate the current living in the order of needing most work: first would be Deukmejian, followed by Brown, Wilson, and

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it was fully enclosed. The article does reference that the enclosure construction began in 1997, and was a direct result of selling the naming rights, but a picture of the unenclosed environment would better depict the physical difference between the old Jack Murphy Stadium and Qualcomm Stadium.

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I used the data for explaining why I thought that California needed to be in all of the category names for a group of categories for California counties. Instead of creating an if-then-else naming scheme, I felt that it would be better to use the wordier, but totally unambiguous naming scheme of

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are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please

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and make sure that California's capital cities are listed accurately. A word of warning: the page does contain quite a bit of complicated wiki formatting, so if you're not comfortable editing it, just post your changes on the talk page and someone more experienced will apply them to the article.

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I read the TfD debate and pretty much agreed with it up until the end when the last user tipped it. I can definitely see the problem with photos being copyrighted and would not consider using state photos unless it is very obvious that the pic is in the public domain. The map issue, however, is

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who was the first archbishop of San Francisco. I probably should have mentioned this in conversation above but was strapped for time earlier. There is something else about this "maze" that is historic that escapes me. I remember one traffic reporter waxing long on a report about the area but it

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and there are two images of the flag on the first page. The first one has a more true-to-life bear and the colors are indeed lighter. The second one looks pretty much like what we have now. All that said, I think it's best to go with what people have said they like in the past, since the colors

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All I ask is why should such a great little city in the midst of its rebirth as a revitalized regionial center be subjected to any continued torture for its shady past and current problems, especially as outlined regarding police. Not Even the Los Angeles listing has this negativity, though its

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I'd like to place the California Natural History articles all in one location, or get a list of them, or a place where stubs are, or make notice of them on the project page. Can there be a section added to the project page for California Natural History? This would then be a place to organize

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doesn't). The articles also need to mention which county they are in, and which cities they are near or between. If you can find out the information, you should mention who maintains the bridges (state, county, or city), and if there has been any earthquake retrofitting done to the bridges (and

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Mike, really cool! I am learning a lot from you and others by being on this project. I will practice what you have taught later today. My only question concerns the description you spoke about and how it fits in with the link example you provided. My question is: if I want to want to put in a

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to your wikiproject, aswell as several other articles that I've come across in my travels. I'm just not sure why it would be part of this wikiproject so thought it best to let you know. The bot is 'MetsBot'. If I've missed something and it's perfectly reasonable for that article to be in your

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I do not think that it is advisable to separate ourselves from a sensible structure when any article can be placed in multiple categories that fit it into different hierarchies, and it would be a very large task to merge the subdivision and settlement structures. In the US (or, at least, in

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Nobody seems to have mentioned that California is still the #4 petroleum-producing US state, after Alaska, Texas, and Louisiana. California produces about 700,000 barrels of oil a day - down 40% from the 1985 peak, but still a goodly amount of the stuff. More importantly, 100+ years ago, the

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That "transparency" does not seem to be working in either direction. I tried to leave a link back to this project and that did not work. When I tried to edit this page with just the image description ala the uploads here, that did not work. I am so confused? Somebody help a padawan learner?

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to be a little more global. As for splitting into North, Central, and Southern, I think it is problematic because not everyone agrees on what what defines those regions. Breaking out people from major cities or metropolitan areas from the main category doesn't sound like a bad idea, though.

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For your own photos, when you upload them, just make sure that you add the proper template. You could release the photos into the public domain, or you could retain the copyright but license the images using the GFDL licence. If they are images that you think that might be used by the other

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that this article could easily go to the AfD process and probably would not survive. I try to participate in the AfD process because I have nominated a number of articles for deletion. In essence I feel that I nominate, I should also debate as that shows I have stake in the process. The

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As for linking back to English Knowledge from Commons, you can use links in the form: ] (that is, prefix the page name with ":en:"). As an example, I fixed the links in the description of the Theodore Judah image. Feel free to ask here or on my talk page if you have more questions.

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The one above it was not much better either. I have been an AfD nominator and both would be prime for noms. Both need copyedits to bring the notable achievements cited by reputable neutral third sources otherwise they will end up like other articles that probably should be here.

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should also participate so that way our users are recognized there in the event a project article is nominated for deletion. Granted, the AfD process should look at a user's contributions as a factor but often is swayed by who participates in the AfD daily. Just a thought. . .

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imagery is in the public domain and would be a good source for interchange images (not so much for desert images, since they aren't covered). The problem is that it's a little convoluted to get the desired images if you don't have experience with the USGS systems (particularly

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write, over the course of the year, reports on two or three people who were or had been residents of the city. Because of that, I have reason to believe that they could be used and probably are used for research purposes. To make such research easier, I looked at the list of

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California), "Subdivision" means "lot split" or "housing tract" unless it is prefaced by "Political" or something similar. "Settlement" is the term that I remember from social geography for any type of human residential area, from a seasonal encampment of a few tipis to the

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Well, I thought I would ask the Project before starting to merge and redirect, or just speedy; I got scolded for AFDing a bunch of Ohio library stubs without consulting the Ohio folks. People can get tetchy about things like this, and mall articles frequently survive AFD.

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The other thing to consider is what is the basic information that a reader of the article needs to know. For example, for the bridge articles that you mientioned: I assume that there is a road or train track that crosses the bridge, but the articles make no mention of that

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This vitriol was in place of what could be a rich article on one of California's gems, the micropolitan center, Eureka, CA. This little city is living expression of the State Motto "Eureka: I have found it." And its rich history and ongoing revitalization deserves better.

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I have worked very hard on the article, please don't restart the article. I would like the acting section, Literature section, and Food & cuisine section revised. I wish the article not be the article. I habe just copyedited. Please keep the article the way it is.

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Central California is known as CenCal here in the San Joaquin Valley (which is the very center of California), and I believe that there are also NorCal and SoCal for northern and southern California, but only know for sure of the wide use of "CenCal" here in the central

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requests and categories for all natural history topic, including natural resources, such as our black gold, and our white gold: the borax mines, plant communities, plant stubs for endemic species, endangered species, waterfalls, national and state parks, and geology.

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FYI:Many of the state parks already have articles created using the information from the State's Parks and Recreation website. I would, however, advise you to be cautious about the accuracy of their information. I found several errors in their information on

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for these counties, so that people searching for articles can be prompted to go to the one they want. I think you answered your own question, since the links in your question already lead to disambiguation pages that lists all eight Orange Counties, etc.

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The height of the condensed gothic letters, as shown on the representation, is one-half of the red stripe width and they occupy a lineal space of two-thirds of the fly length with the beginning and ending letters of the words equidistant from the fly

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probably won't look the same on everyone's monitors anyways. The one thing I would like to see is a slightly lighter border on the upper part of the flag, since it isn't actually part of the flag anyways; the gray in the PNG version would be fine.

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Either green is fine with me, but for that one Chris and I found different RGB values for "Irish Green". I guess I'd trust the value from Photoshop for the Pantone conversion more than the random pages Chris and I found on the Internet, though.

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Your colors looked very much like the ones Chris demostrated in a previous comment in this section. We avoided using the "exact" colors because of previous opposition to the introduction of the SVG images due to differences in color from the

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Hello, everybody. I am the bozo who just recently created the new subcategories in the "People from California" category. I thought that some of you might want to know why they were created, and why they often have so few pages in them.

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template when necessary. I think that category is specifically for bordered versions of flags that don't officially have a border as a convenience when sizing. Otherwise, you have to drop by two pixels in width to accomodate the border.

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Looking at the two side-by-side, I think that the red should be changed. As I said in my earlier comments, I think it looks better than the current red. However, I think the changes to the browns make the bear look a little washed out.

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Hello, I will begin to upload some requested pictures that I noticed talkpages wanted. If you check my contribs later within the next two hours, I should be done. I am not sure if I got the fair use tag correct on the first picture,

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I have began editing the much more extensive article on the same topic, but instead entitled "San Francisco Mime Troupe". I would suggest combining the articles and tagging the larger "San Francisco Mime Troupe" under this project.

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police are certainly often deserving of such notation. I found reference to methamphetamines in the Eureka article overview, but in Oakland and San Francisco no such notation exists for "crack" and "methamphetamines," respectively.

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and other WikiProjects have. It will perhaps be linked to a category so that we don't have to maintain a manual list on the WikiProject California page. I'd also market the category as a non-userbox option for ppl who don't like

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I don't see how the SJSU article attempts "to censor and suppress references to that school's original name" since it seems to discuss this extensively in both the introduction and "History" sections. It could be possible to make

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This image was uploaded under a fair use rationale, but may fail Knowledge's first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a free image might reasonably be found or created that adequately provides the same

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Just to be clear, "fair use" is for cases when images are used without copyright holder permission. Since you are the copyright holder and you're willing to license the image, fair use doesn't apply. Hope that clears things up.

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where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.

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to view it. The article doesnt need to be rewritten: just restored to the form it was in before it was moved to "least tern"...but the history should be moved, which needs an admin assist, which is why concensus is needed here.

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The bear is fine from the older version, so I kept that. I also kept the seal from the old image, so the only colors I changed were the green and red. I am happy with this result, now it looks like a table flag I actually own.

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I hope I could make it to Sacramento in the next few months so I could try and get an official flag there and see if it looks similar to what I have. I won't make the image change now, I will wait and see what yall say first.

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of a delete/keep decision on commons. Mentioning this here in the hopes of getting more eyes and ears involved -- do people like the current image? Would they like a different one? Speak up and let yourselves be heard, eh? –

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space of what was printed in the article. When I compared this focus with other cities, I found no such focus on the negative in light of a glaring absence of /focus on of the basics one expects in an encyclopedic reference.

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San Dieguito County Park, however is a County and not a Sate park, and the info on the the county website may not be in the public domain. In that case you just have to rewrite and rearrange the info from the County website.

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First of all, the history can only be attached to one article, so I can't take a partial edit history and move it to another article. The only way you can do this is to do a copy-paste from the old version in the history of

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Now there is a revival of a fairly recent proposal to have the article titles for a small number of cities violate the very long-standing "city, state" naming convention. The discussion and voting are currently going on at

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districts are so safe that a convicted dead felon from the right party would still probably win in their districts). If anyone has any better political connections, you might try to get some better "official" information.

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student in an effort to censor and suppress references to that school's original name. The article did share some text with the SJSU article, but I personally pledge to make sure the two articles do not share any text.

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today and sorted a bunch of people whose last names started with A and B, and there were a number of SF Bay Area people or Greater LA metro area people that I didn't move to the more specific categories. Perhaps we have

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make up a majority of the people you cite as participating in AfD daily. Sometimes it is justified, but I find that more often than not the deletion is a waste of everyone's time and could just as easily be left as is.

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As for the font, I know that "condensed gothic" is a generic term. I looked around for a font that was a little bolder, but had the same boxiness and couldn't find one (even if I did want to pay for it). According to

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it (very easy to do if you don't create templates regularly). They will also make sure that the new category gets all the proper parents categories and the proper description is added to the top of the category page.

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So I present this simple idea. Why not leave the text of the slaughter of the Wiyots in the article under that name. Why not leave the mess with police misdeeds in a separate article on police problems and misdeeds.

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You're right; we probably don't need the regional ones, but I don't think there's a need to append ", California" to the category names unless there's the possibility of confusion with another city of the same name.

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or not. One position is that Mexico is uniquely relevant to California given the historic, cultural, economic, and political relationships between the two regions, and therefore deserves inclusion more than, e.g.,

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That begins to clear it up to me. I just finished the first part of the upload and need to take a break. I will see if I can find a link for the Wiki Commons area later. Please check my contribs to see the others.

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So far a monitor has allowed my changes to remiain. I can only imagine the hurt individuals who were responsible for the odd extensivity of the negativity in the old sections I removed will not go away so easily.

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If you know of a stub article that needs some improvement, I can help by putting a geotag on it. The geotag opens a link to Wikimapia, Google or Yahoo Maps. The article's visitors can then open the appropriate

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Many articles covered by this WikiProject lack photographs. As part of a subcategorization of the requested photos category, there is now a category for California articles needing photos - to use it, just add

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So fork that off into a new article. In the edit you've given us, the Least Tern article was focused on the California Least Tern when there are two other subspecies, and I see no article ever having been at

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This article in itself may not be the best example. I also work with the WikiProject Pennsylvania. We saved all of the camp articles there. in time they tend to grow - but not if they are merged or deleted.

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Would this be appropriate and useful for others? I do have pictures that could be used on many of the California Natural History pages, but don't have much talent for inserting pictures into articles, yet.

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article is about both an incorporated city, with an elected council and a full-service local government, and the larger area referred to as "Mill Valley," which includes some unincorporated CDPs, such as

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Recently synced a few facts, particularly the number dead from mulholland's st francis dam disaster i 1928, between wikipedia's articles on william mulholland and on LA Department of Water and Power

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Also, if you agree to license your images under a sufficiently free license, you might want to upload them to Wikimedia Commons to allow them to be used transparently on other language Wikipedias.

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The article "Californian Least Tern" was obliterated in a merge into least tern. the article covered an important subspecies in california and was focussed and well written on that subject. click

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I am the one who took the picture and release it for free usage here on Knowledge. I will upload one of each picture I shot (there are 42 pix total with some getting two or three shots). Cheers!

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Images uploaded to Commons can be linked as if they were uploaded to English Knowledge itself, except when there is an image with a conflicting name here. That's what I meant by "transparent".

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articles that were in stub statuses. I have a question about the Wikimapia. Is a screenshot of a Wikimapia map and/or satellite image considered releaseable to the Wiki projects under the

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Hi, I'm kind of new to this Wiki thing, but thought I might try and contribute a bit and try writing a few articles. More specifically, I was thinking of trying to write articles for the

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The problem was more that there were users who objected to the SVG looking different from the PNG we currently have, so it wouldn't help placate those people to simply replace the PNG ;)

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If the problem is that the PNG will look different from the SVG, I could export the SVG file into PNG, so we could the design I had, but I will change the colors back from black to seal.

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I think we may just want to stick with the current colors, since they are pretty close. I found the same RGB values as you for these colors, except Irish Green, which I found as #008751 (

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Images on Commons can be linked from any Wikimedia project, but images on a specific site (such as English Knowledge) can't be linked outside of that site. When a Commons image (such as

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the U.S. state of California" stated on the top of the project page. If it is, place the project notice template on the top of their talk pages? At least have some collaboration with

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for your options. Keep in mind that Knowledge discourages licensing of images solely for Knowledge's use, since it makes that part of the encyclopedia undistributable by other parties.

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While "settlements" is dictionary-correct, it is also not the best term that could be used for contemporary locales. We need something like "political subdivisions" across the board.

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I changed my mind. Adding "California" to the end of the category names is a good idea, because invariably some will need it and some won't, so then we'll end up having a few that are

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stubs. I recently moved to CA from ND and came to Knowledge looking for some info on those and found them lacking, so I'd like to try and gather info for an article to put up here.

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and that article describes almost exactly in the first paragraph what I am trying to discern here. Perhaps in a day or two, another project member can wordsmith these words into the

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it doesn't link into any categories or anything, just a plain userbox. if someone involved with the wikiproject wants to add it to that page, i just don't want to step on any toes.

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the rest of you might choose to make. With that in mind, I have also generally populated the categories with only one or two names, to ease in the process of deletion or renaming.

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A WikiProject is for gathering together individuals interested in editing similar topics and who are willing to help other editors with those topics (and help work on things like

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article. This is an uncontroversial merge, so I would suggest going ahead and merging any unique information, and then turning the "The San Francisco Mime Troupe" article into a

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should be undeleted. The California State Normal School was the first public institution of higher learning in California, and the campaign to delete this article was lead by a

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quality. I've recused myself from awarding GA because I participated in peer review, but since that's about to close I recommend you open a good article nomination. Warmly,

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up through July 29) If there is anything related to California (or anything else related to the U.S. - culture, music, literature, geography, history, politics, ...), please

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with categories including numerous stubs in the Biological sciences, and the geology stubs under the Physical sciences. You could also tag some of the stub articles with the

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Keep in mind that the alternate version still has the black text. That has been changed (in a version I will upload now), so if there is anything else, please let me know.

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has been nominated for deletion. The template is already huge and ugly. Imagine it populated with all 1,035 LAUSD schools. You are invited to comment on the discussion at

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A Settlement is a specific human habitat that may include: hamlets, villages, towns, and cities. It may also refer to an archaeological site of previous human occupation.

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pointed out that there is also a place named "Alta" in California. It might not be notable but for completeness sake it'll probably get an article anyway. So we'd have "

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A date for when the inner outfield wall was installed should be added, rather than just leaving it as "later" - This is a very important statistic for home run totals.

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is pretty easy to use but so far, I have only been able to obtain the larger maps and not a detailed map of say 4mile by 4mile picture suitable for bridgespan. Cheers

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for a city-based category. The county thing would be too confusing because it requires a lot of local knowledge to be useful. For example, it wouldn't be obvious that

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Rats! Every time I think I have that fair use/GNU issue settled, another thorn pops up. Now, if I could just get my mitts on the USGS site. At least I spruced up the

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Further, all or most of these "Settlements in {state}" categories are new. It actually would not be much work to create more appropriate categories and linkages.

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Again a monitor of the site allowed my changes to occur as of today, but I ask that those interested in this project monitor for the reaction and what may occur.

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I'll be honest with you - Camp Oljato does not seem notable and is not in a Wiki format typical of other articles. It could very easily be nominated for deletion

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diffent especially with the CDF. At least one on the URL I cited appears to be developed by the CDF which should according to the conditions of use be PD.

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created. Now there is a proposal to merge both projects into the Bay Area version. If you want to contribute your two cents to the discussion, please see

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Another thing- your changes have POV problems in the opposite direction, which is probably why they were reverted (and likely will be again). Please read

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Hello, I am new to the community. I was motivated to become a member when I read for the second or third time the artical showcasing Eureka to the world.

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All this being said, much of the U.S. Government's original satelite imagery is in the public domain, so it can be used on Knowledge. In particular, the

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I bring this to your attention after my mistake of understanding Eureka and the Redwood Emprire and a sincere desire to focus on a star of California.

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I first read this article in the early stages of peer review. The editors here have done a fine job of improving it. In my opinion you're safely into

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Spam shouldn't though. Still, you're right, you should ask. Glad the user is blocked, though. Would like to see many of them, probably most, go.

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information and that any photo credits, graphics or byline be similarly credited to the photographer, author or County of San Diego, as appropriate."

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the articles were properly categorized at the time that they were nominated for deletion, it wouldn't be too hard to get a bot to do that work.

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I have been doing some work to attempt to improve the classification status of the article on the only Congressman to die in the line of duty,

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I found this reference on the official state website for a PDF that has on page six the official colors described in terms of cable numbers:

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to see what the article is describing or where it's located. If you know of an article, please append it to this message or on my talkpage.

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on the freeways leading into and out of the city and this article is probably one of the few that explains online how the name originated.

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was proposed for speedy deletion by the same editor creating all these "Settlements in {state}" categories. I put a hangon in the category.

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Since you're interested in California and improving Knowledge's coverage of California-related topics, you might want to monitor this list.

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Hello, while reading an article, I came across an image that was in that article. It had been downloaded from a Nasa site and uploaded at

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The colors I used above for the color swatches came from the earlier discussion, so please make them match your SVG if you're interested.

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On the other hand, the article seems fairly good to me, although it would be nice to have a close-up photo of a 'typical' California roll.

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note: I didn't look at every California county—just the ones that looked most likely to me to also be used by other states or countries.

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article. All comments and suggestions are being accepted with an eye towards possible nomination of that article as a Featured Article.

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size (the default is 180 pixels). By default, it is right-aligned, but you can make it left aligned by sticking "left" in the link. See

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request, because the image currently used is up for deletion on commons; now, however, it appears some people want the image changed

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yourself. You can add it without an assessment if you don't feel comfortable doing that part (I didn't assess the Stanford article).

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Wiki Project bot placed that project's tag on it. I believe the California Wiki Project tag should also be placed on it. Any ideas?

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I am not sure this answers your question, but about a year ago, there use to be a tag on both Commons and here on Knowledge named

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Sorry folks - sheesh - I'm catching up from a trip, and goofed that one! Please delete the entire section here if you'd like?

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I'm not sure the above colors are accurate (I just found them online), so I don't know if we want to switch to them or not. --

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Oh, good grief, a professional mall spammer. Can't we just block the spamdress, rather than speedy delete every single page?

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There are an awful lot of California shopping centers with articles, and a number of them appear to be rather non-notable (see

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I kind of noticed that the deletionists tend to dominate. I strive to be a moderate although some users probably see me as a

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as a shortcut for all the interchanges that connect to the major freeways leading into and out of SF. There is even another

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Since you took the image and release it for free use, you should change the image copyright tag to use something other than

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history. I have begun clean-up on the article as I found it in an orphan abandoned status. After placing a bio tag on it, a

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article. Please review and wordsmith it at your earliest opportunity. Brownie points if someone finds the misspelled word.

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in that article) could be linked to the maze article by correcting the spelling article and mentioning the maze. I am not

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I have no problems with pictures having copyrights but maps produced like for CDF fires seem to fall in the open domain.

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I think it definitely looks fine for the 75px and smaller sizes. I'm not sure about the 250px size, because of the font.

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Wikipedias written in non-English languages, you should upload the images to Commons instead of just to en.wikipedia.org.

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I have done some research into this matter. On my talkpage, the user who made the assessment based it upon this chart,

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to see the article that was destroyed. that article should be restored. Anyone interested in this matter may comment

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Mike, thanks. I will add it to the ones I am sure of. The Governor's list is a good idea (after the football game).

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Hi, I was hoping that any of you guys in the L.A. area would be able to get and image or something which could go in

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But, it was so good the way it was. Oh well, I guess that we can't yield to the trolls just 'cause they're funny. --

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a separate article that deals with the school as a teacher's college, but this discussion should be taking place on

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Natural history stubs are classified by type or topic, but not by region. The entire list of stubs can be found at

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As a former resident of San Diego county, I have found memories of dancing at the Belly Up Tavern in Solana Beach.

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Me again :-) I've overcome my jet lag, my trauma from the Oakland airport, and this time it's the real thing :-)

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Sounds good. I don't think those changes will upset anyone. The bear's colors can be dealt with later if need be.

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If you find the list useful, please also help to maintain it by adding new items and archiving old ones. Thanks!

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I was browsing a CDF article and came across some maps. When I clicked on the copyright notice here is what that

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Anyway, are there any templates or guidelines I should follow for this project to keep my articles consistent? --

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Looks like a bunch of highway signs. Too bad they cannot be associated with the right road/article or moved to

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to resolve this dispute and definitively either include or exclude Mexico from the related portals section of

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in the traffic reports but did not have a reference to it other than the reporter saying the "Alemany Maze to

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Any suggestions to improve the article, users. Anything anybody can do to help? I would really appreciate it.

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Also, if you look at this user's contribution history, they have a serious vegan/animal rights POV problem...

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Ok, so combine my red and green with the bear and text on the original version? If so, I can live with that.

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While I think the userbox is a good idea ... there are some admins who might delete a new userbox on site. --

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has made a concerted effort to save our articles, which is why ours are most of the few that still exist. --

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Hmmm, you're right about that. What about categories for the major metropolitan areas then? I went through

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There should also be a note about when the second JumboTron was added to the western side of the stadium.

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The admin's comment was "New userbox created in template space; should have been created in userspace per

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including California in the name of every category, rather than only those counties that weren't unique.

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does not have any particular article guidelines, but if check, some of the related WikiProjects, such as

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Once again there is a proposal to change the Knowledge's long standing naming convention for US Cities.

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There are a few California counties that have names shared with other states, including eight different

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cases and possibly contentious in others. I actually think it works great for self-selected stuff like

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As an example, here is a link to the local image description page for one of the images you uploaded:

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I hope project members will have a look at it: perhaps stubbifying it and starting over will help.

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I'm not sure if there will be another use for this info, but I recently compiled the following info:

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should be considered. Essentially he brought "the Big Four" together and died on his trip home from

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So I've changed this everywhere that it was 40px or smaller. The remaining uses that I can see are:

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Thanks for your input. About the border, it seems that a solid black border is the standard. See

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have more than basic stub articles, they won't add much length to locality articles when merged. --

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to leave your comment. To leave a comment on that page, click the link to the right of the title

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problems all over the place, not to mention a nearly complete lack of sourcing (a common problem).

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should be enough to differentiate templates that are and are not suitable for the main namespace.

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I would like to see it remain on its own standing because it is well known in a large city. The

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If you look at the wikitext for the image link I made in the edit box, it reads something like:

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I'm still not sure that this version looks better at larger than 40px, so we can wait on those.

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because the Conditions of Use text is very ambiguous in terms of actual copyright and license.

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The stadium's name was changed to San Diego Jack Murphy Stadium in 1981, the year following

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There is currently a discussion underway about articles assessments for this WikiProject at

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when). If you know anything about Bixby Creek and/or Rocky Creek, you should add that info.

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Many thanks to all who offered so much valuable assistance during these past 24 hours when

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is" blah, blah, blah. It is on the list of requested photos for our project and linked to

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There is a whole hierarchy of settlement categories, based on this working definition in

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Well, if it doesn't cover it, certainly it is a big enough start. And, yes, the ecology

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Following up on this comment, I would like to suggest that this article be submitted for

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and then put SF and LA as subcats of those with the others just lumped in that category?

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This discussion could benefit from the comments of some active Californian editors. See

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Articles are organized by categories. You can find all of the California articles under

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has recently been created, but it needs some filling out to turn it into a full-fledged

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bridge connectors and each of the bridges leading in the south part of the SF penisula.

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It looks like all of the POV problems in the "Demographics" section were introduced by

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Organically I began the process, not realizing the hornets nest that could be stirred.

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do have guidelines and suggestions. There is also all of the material in the Knowledge

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and there is no compelling fair use argument for these screenshots. Hope that helps.

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history). It is probably one of the few, if not the only, to be awarded to a native.

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I'll wait a day or two for feedback, and if there aren't any objections I'll proceed.

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California Gold Rush - Main page Featured article at midnight UTC, February 14, 2007.

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under someone's directory for the project's use. The highway project might want 'em.

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Knowledge:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 13#Category:Towns in California

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which means Todd may have been aware of it prior to leaving on his historic trek to

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and basically entered in one new category for each metropolitan statistical area.

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that appears to have been deleted b/c of where it was placed, not for what it was.

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i'm not *in* california anymore, but i still consider myself a californian. ergo:

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and register your opinion. There is also a more general survey on naming cities at

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A new WikiProject has been started, and may be of interest to members here. It is

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for content from the State of California web site. However, after some debate on

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This interchange is very well known to San Franciscan residents trying to escape

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to everyone who contributed suggestions and editorial comments during the recent

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I am looking at the change and cannot decipher it? Any clues for the clueless?

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From what I've seen, no border is the standard, with recommendations to use the

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I'm not clear on the process for creating a stub -- do we just go and edit the

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for the core policy about what sort of additions should be made to an article.

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Poll: Merge WikiProject San Francisco into WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area?

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was the Main page FA! Your invaluable assistance was very much appreciated!

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OK with me to delete this section - Sandy's entitled to a flub now and then!

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Reverted the nonsense, and unencyclopedic information. Added External Link.

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section includes Portal:Mexico, which seems to support the first position.

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That worked! I changed the title during the football commercial. Way cool!

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Why exactly do userbox templates not belong in template space? What about

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process. The prod article above has a great comment on its talkpage from

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Looking at the references, I have some concerns about copyright status.

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Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of

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Is there a specific reason that you asked about that particular article?

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tactics and tried to change the titles for several US cities, including

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s

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Even defunct malls are hard to eradicate from the Knowledge at AFD (see

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The discussion is over, see the new stub section on the project page. --

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and that will then stop most of the interminable debates on this issue.

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This user is, like, able to, like, contribute with an advanced level of

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Do Californians think of their cities as settlements? Well, check out

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from the California State Military Department has Pantone equivalents.

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As a former resident of California, I would like to add a page for the

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Hi! I learned something about geolink tags and am using it in some of

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Personally, I use {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}} which combines

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Not all "settlements" are "politcal subdivisions." For example, the

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I feel that there should be at least one picture of Qualcomm Stadium

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listed in the Knowledge entry for the location, is the Alameda NAS.

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more focused on the North Coast, I determined I could right a wrong.

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The article on "California Least Tern" should not have been destroyed

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Knowledge:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 March 13#Template:PD-CAGov

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status. If you would like to comment on this nomination, please go

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is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found

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Interesting note about copyright notice on California state website

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Also, a preview of the pix I uploaded this afternoon appear on the

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Any comments? What would be the Wiki Commons tag for these maps?

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I am not sure how many members of our project participate in the

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It also lays out the official colors in the following paragraph.

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Knowledge talk:WikiProject California/Assessment#Importance scale

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and in your edit summary, do something like, "Content split from

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rather than a push to expand the smaller articles that existed.

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of this article, which has just closed and is available for your

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on articles related to California. You can find the list here:

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Thanks for the encouragement (hope the mocha tastes good)! :D --

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Sketch of the Sacramento Valley RR as provided by its engineer,

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Knowledge talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Associated Press

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This article should be part of the project as well. This image,

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under the scope of this project? Considering its origins... --

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I wonder if the addition of this is obvious or not, but is the

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Request for undeletion - California State Normal School article

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There are also overview articles on California topics, such as

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List of current and former capital cities in the United States

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status. Many thanks to all who contributed to this success.

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the course of the work, then it is also in the public domain.

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Merge Mammoth-Yosemite Airport into Mammoth Yosemite Airport

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on the Baja California articles and the Alta/Baja border. --

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project. They have maze shortcuts for the Coldicot Tunnel,

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I would like to repeat here the following comment from the

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banner? I just noticed it while on Recent Change Patrol.

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It's available through my Wiki Commons account (thanks to

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process that I discovered the protocol herein for change.

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As part of the WikiProject California, the article on the

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article, it has the image I have included as a thumbnail.

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Rancho San Jose, Corte Madera de Novato, Rancho Olompali,

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New stub type approved for creation: California-gov-stub

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Template_talk:PD-CAGov 1#State of California Copyrights

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Proposed change to the naming conventions for US cities

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page for the Calif Gold Rush article, go to this page:

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In term of California, these articles no longer exist.

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Obliteration of Scouting articles related to California

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the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page

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They are no longer necessary. They were originally in

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project. Somehow, it was able to cull the article for

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I've made the font a bit thicker at the suggestion of

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Can this information be corrected? It is misleading.

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Category:Knowledge requested photographs in California

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and the related Templates for Deletion discussion at

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I just released how the reporters used to emphasize

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Wiki-Project. Robinson reads like he belongs in the

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Alemany Maze planning 'shortcuts' to other freeways

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Discussion about WikiProject:California assessments

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Check out the comments at 428:unless you are familiar with the Central Valley. 185:Knowledge:WikiProject Deletion sorting/California 5381:is acceptable in the Related Portals section of 5012:traffic reporters (and other area stations) use 4609:where it is described and the museum pic to the 4426:That period of California history intrigues me. 3980:The only use for this is would be in creating a 2283:to handle Northern California topics, and leave 1090:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places 572:I went ahead and added the assesment section. -- 5849:page that could be used as a starting point... 4703:, in your picture (instead of the description, 4699:different local description, i.e, put the text 4474:(as per the article and my dim recollection of 2369:I was looking at the entry for Treasure Island 1499:I did exactly that. Thanks for the direction. 1102:California Natural History Stubs and Subproject 772:Knowledge talk:Naming conventions (settlements) 747:Proposed move, San Francisco, California -: --> 549:, and if you have any questions, ask me in the 444:Category:People from the San Francisco Bay Area 6294:Proposed change to this WikiProject's template 5337:article. I will pay USGS a visit later today. 340:Category:People from San Francisco, California 179:I just wanted to let you know about a list of 5884:AFD: Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s 4669:Theodore Judah monument in Old Sacramento, CA 4618:Wiki requested photographs in California page 3215:Here are the different thumbnailed versions: 1168:Does that cover what you were interested in? 1138:Knowledge:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types 750:_San_Francisco-2006-08-24T22:09:00.000Z": --> 745:_San_Francisco-2006-08-24T22:09:00.000Z": --> 392:Category:People from another city, California 5522:which according to the values listed on the 4265:is currently proposed for speedy deletion.-- 4202:Another article for consideration should be 3757:"Old Glory Red" - Cable 80108 - Pantone 200 2509:_"San_Francisco_Mime_Troupe"": --> 2506:_"San_Francisco_Mime_Troupe"": --> 2502:_"San_Francisco_Mime_Troupe"": --> 2436:_"San_Francisco_Mime_Troupe"": --> 2365:Corrections: Treasure Island and Alameda NAS 929:peer review requested - California Gold Rush 5837:See here for the administrative discussion. 4497:right. Here is what the upload page reads: 3775:"Maple Sugar" - Cable 80153 - Pantone 729C 3024:"Old Glory Red" - Cable 80108 - Pantone 200 2861:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Centre 2000 500:. Plase join in the relevant discussion at 373:Category:Wikipedians in Southern California 100:San Dieguito County Park - San Diego County 6283:Whoops, I missed the notice above. Sorry, 6142:, it was decided to have them redirect to 4767:Image:Crocker Art Museum main entrance.jpg 4495:Image:Crocker Art Museum main entrance.jpg 3766:"Irish Green" - Cable 80120 - Pantone 348 3716:Here are the two versions for comparison: 3700:. 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Please let me know what you think, at 6025:article and available for others such as 4701:Theodore Judah monument in Old Sacramento 4019:I stumbled across another shared county: 3926:User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week 3741: 3033:"Irish Green" - Cable 80120 - Pantone 348 2281:Knowledge:WikiProject Northern California 827:about how best to (further) split up the 634:I've worked for the past month to update 208:PS New members are needed and welcome at 6204:I may have to buttonhole some people. 6056:California's 11th congressional district 6004: 5484: 5468:Indian Grinding Rock State Historic Park 4761:and five other articles to this project? 4664: 4340:David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy 4333:David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy 4048:Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s 3800:Image:Flag of California (alternate).svg 3596:Knowledge:WikiProject California/Userbox 3492:Knowledge:WikiProject California/Userbox 3373:Knowledge:WikiProject California/Userbox 2298:Who would deal with the Central Valley? 1483:Knowledge:WikiProject California/Userbox 4835:One definite article for the project - 3850:How do you feel about the green color? 3744:File:Flag of California (alternate).svg 3628:felt it was very off from what I used. 2404:Talk:Anaheim, California#Requested move 2386:_Anaheim-2006-11-24T10:30:00.000Z": --> 2381:_Anaheim-2006-11-24T10:30:00.000Z": --> 2098:Why not? 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