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primary sources, there's the 2003 Accident Report (but only in Portuguese) that I've cited in the sources. I'm pretty sure that there were public Reports for the 1997 and 1999 launches, but there are nowhere to be found online. Those flights are almost never explored in books (it seems that last year was released an indie book on the 2003 Accident, but it is quite expensive), and the 2003 disaster is only remembered in annual superficial articles (last year
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14842415.29) and aimed to show potential customers the reliability of the Brazilian rocket. For a launch cost of US$ 6.5 million, it would be cheaper than the U.S. rocket Pegasus for US$ 15 million." The mixture of units is a bit confusing, and I might try to standard all of those prices to 1997 Reals.
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The red links are part of a template. If the article exists on the English Knowledge, then the article will be correctly linked. If it does not, it will link to the foreign-language article - in this case, the Portugese one. You can read the template page for more information. I believe that the red
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Got an invite to come here, so let me give my input. In my experience short, iterative improvements work best. For example, not long ago I added crew capacity to many space capsule articles. I think it improved Knowledge more than working on a single article! So I'd welcome more generic to-do lists
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Thanks! For my part, it would be great to develop the two launch events and the accidental ignition (V03) in deep, since there are a lot for the background and the aftermath (the inquiries/investigation for the 2003 disaster may deserve an ever deeper development, due to the loss of lives). On
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I just reviewed VLS-1 V01, it looks good! I just made some minor grammatical changes, and I'll probably go over the other articles later today. I would just say during the "background and goals" section you may want to do something with the part that says "The launch cost R$ 16 million (US$
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I created this new article since we didn't cover this topic. I've tried to keep it "general" in order to cover all kinds of flame deflecting systems (pits, trenches, diverters, and even "active" systems like SpaceX's new system for Starship). Feedback and assessment would be appreciated!
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templates where possible. Various aircraft infobox templates are being merged, and the question has arisen, should the aero engine infobox be merged in with them, or would it be better to merge and extend the existing engine infoboxes? There is an ongoing discussion
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Hi, I was hired on a freelancing site to improve the article on American rocketry pioneer Edward S. Forman. As a paid editor, I am relegated to make suggestions on the talk page rather than directly updating the article. Could you please go over my suggestions
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down to just 300 articles! However, we still have a long ways to go in order to get that down to 0 - if you are interested in helping, please consider looking through some stub articles to see if you could expand any/merge them into an existing article.
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I'd say that they probably do meet the Notability requirements - it looks like there's a lot of external sources on the subjects, and all three seem to be relatively important, especially being at the beginning of Brazil's space program.
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don't have any archived historical material on this project. I've cropped 3 newspaper images from the project (somewhat good quality, but is better than nothing), since in my opinion they all fall under
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The "R$ 16 million" is already the 1997 value. The mixture is more due to the sources: the newspaper articles (and even nowadays online articles) mixes a lot U$ D and R$ when talking about the project.
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released a 3 episode podcast on the accident, which had access to confidential military documents, but I don't know how to use it as a source). For an even earlier (1950s) rocketry project, there's the
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For much, in the 1997 flight they had to manually open a "Mechanical Safety Device" right before T-0, so the electricity could reach the igniters, but I couldn't find how long before T-0 it happened.
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and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
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In my opinion, we should collaborate on an article to revive this project. This could be any really, as long as we are actually doing something. My suggestion is
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has it - but not for any specific mission, but the "desired scenario" in general. Since I'm not sure if the image (and the entire report) falls under
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and guidelines that apply to many articles, than just focusing on a single one. Anyway, I'll keep an eye here and help where possible!
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because it is popular and currently being very actively working on. The article can also be another lighthouse to guide editors, like
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The first methalox rocket has reached orbit! I think it's time Zhuque-2 is given a separate article. What do you guys think?
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regarding how to describe the nationality of the company. Input from knowledgeable space flight editors would be appreciated.
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Thanks for the suggestion. For now, I think that we should first assess all the rocketry articles. We can also work on
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thanks! Do you have any suggestion on how those articles may be expanded? On English-language sources, there are
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Please update rocketry articles often because plans can change and new launches may be planned or have happened.
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Anyone has new link for that? Might need to update it on the page as the link no longer works for us to join.
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2. Disagreement about whether to include launch names in payload column of table when there is no payload.
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I recommend starting as close to T-0 as possible, since the vehicle didn't have any propellants to load.
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Do you all think/agree that the first 2 VLS articles and the FĂ©lix I pass the Notability requirements?
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A lot of it needs to be reworded, but I think overall these articles have a lot of potential.
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Maybe add more details on the desired trajectory of the launch (similar to what is in the
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links should stay for now, since those articles do not exist on the English Knowledge.
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I have just found an article with a deep description of the VLS launch profile (
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