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Had I known Iâd have to spend so much time defending every step of my writing process for this
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The reason I havenât added the citations yet is that itâs a labourius and time-consuming process, and honestly, itâs the least "fun" part of writing history, but I recognize as the most important. Thatâs a fair criticism, and I accept it. But it doesnât mean what Iâve written lacks credibility. Iâll
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Does anyone have a citation for the last time this may have been used? I have never seen this term, in reading any contemporary texts from the past 300 years. I suspect that it may have been used as recently as the mid-1800th century, but that is just a guess. Since the article's author as stated
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I'm not sure why NeumĂźnster should be called "notable". Usually the three cities every German knows are Kiel (Capital, Harbour, Kieler FĂśrde, Kiel Week, THW Kiel), LĂźbeck (rich history, tourist magnet, Hanseatic League, marzipan, World
Heritage Site, Holstentor) and Flensburg (nationwide database of
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Was there any kind of referendum - or discussion of having a referendum - in
Schleswig-Holstein after World War Two so that the remainder of Schleswig could join Denmark? My mother, who grew up there, has mentioned that there was a referendum and that sentiment among native Schleswig-Holsteiners was
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I believe you are correct about the expellees, although refugees might be a more accurate word than expellees. As I understand it, they were not kicked out of their home areas by the advancing Soviet forces but were fleeing to avoid the revenge that they feared from the
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I've put material from the lead into the main text of the article, which seems a better place for it. The contributions are very good and do improve the article significantly. The material on the
Septembernote, for example, was not represented anywhere on en.WP up till now. At times (e.g. the Saxon
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Instead of going back and forth, can we just have a proper dialogue? If you notice Iâve written something you want citations for, feel free to message me directly. Iâll appreciate that and provide them as requested. I know Iâm slow with citations, but thatâs just the way I work. It doesnât mean the
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Since I missed the self-imposed 24-hour deadline to respond before the edit was reverted at midnight, and while being accused of bad form, I will now take the time to address my points. I am currently working on the project of writing the full history of the intriguing region of Schleswig-Holstein.
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From Blackbourn, History of Germany, 1780-1918, I think it can be deduced that Bismarck could complain that the succession was being used to reduce Prussia's influence in Europe. He turned it to what he thought was his advantage. The British government was not pleased with the result, but seems to
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Sorry this has been a difficulty, I think it was a lot of communication failure and leaving stuff as work in progress longer than people are comfortable with outside of Drafts. If this had just been over the course of several days it probably would've been fine, it just came across like unsourced
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I don't see what is hard to understand. The lead is over three times as long as it should be. It needs to be reduced by at least 950 words, to about the length of the reverted version. Perhaps I am mistaken, but so far in the discussion, it's not seemed that you understand this. You said "I would
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This really needs a citation or else it needs to be deleted. I'm quite sure this comes from "Schlei's vĂk" (Bay of the Schlei - right where the town of Schleswig is currently located). In the KnĂ˝linga Saga, the term "SlĂŠsvik" is used complete with native Old Norse grammar (indicating it is a term
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What is so special about the Frisian dialect spoken on Helgoland that it needs a reference in the Languages paragraph? Actually the correct term would be "Halluner". Also, there are a multitude of North Frisian dialects. Halluner is closely related to Fering and Ămrang which is spoken on FĂśhr and
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I don't have the text of the peace treaty to hand, but as I recall its paragraph 5 had some fascinating stuff about the "grandfathered" transitional method of sorting out issues about the transferred population, the "optant" method. Perhaps someone can look it up and incorporate material from it.
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I do not understand either your arguments or your interpretation of mine. If you look at the editing history, multiple people have made changes to the header after I wrote it, none of which have been an issue. My frustration stems from the fact that the header was abruptly reverted. This kind of
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It was my mistake not to inform you about the project, only to show the process. Please allow me the time to complete the page, and once it is finished, we can discuss the final product and decide whether it should be kept or not. For now, abruptly reverting the edit is merely a distraction and,
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I've sprinkled in "citations needed" throughout, but it is only important that we have citations right away for value judgements, potentially controversial claims (e.g. that the Obotrites' Slavic identity was the decisive factor in their position during the Saxon Wars), and anything relating to
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It seems to me that if such a referendum took place after WW II it should be included in this article, even though Schleswig-Holstein ultimately remained part of Germany. Even serious talk of such a referendum seems like something that should be mentioned, even if it is only a sentence or two.
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reverted it back claiming it was fine. Daniel appears to be one of the people who started this long lead back in May (along with a bunch of IPs). Since re-reverting seems to be frowned upon on wikipedia I'm just going to leave my issue here and let others work it out, but I strongly recommend
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The last time I visited Germany, in 1999, I was told by people who had recently visited Schleswig-Holstein, that a lot of the locals were refusing to speak anything but Low German (Plattdeutsch) to visitors from other parts of Germany, even though they were all perfectly fluent in High German
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tradition which states that since women cannot contribute to military defense, they may not inherit land - Schleswig Law, as agreed to in earlier times, quite specifically forbade female inheritance. The Law of the Kingdom of Denmark, on the other hand, was cognatic - not discriminating by
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The section on the "Plebiscite in 1920" contains this sentence: "In 1937, the Nazis passed the so-called Greater Hamburg Act (GroĂ-Hamburg-Gesetz), where the nearby Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg was expanded, to encompass towns that had formally belonged to the Prussian province of
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An important component in the Schleswig-Holstein problem was that German nationalists claimed that the Salic Law applied to both Holstein and Schleswig while Danish nationalists claimed that Denmark and Schleswig had the same law of succession but that Holstein followed the Salic Law.
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Wars) discussion risks going into more detail than can be accommodated in an article which has to cover both Schleswig's history and the present day state. That's not a serious problem; we can solve it in due course by migrating material to dedicated sub-pages in line with
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According to Moxy, much of what you've been adding (at least recently) has been unsourced, or sources German Knowledge. What's the deal with that? (See below) Especially considering the total lack of sources in the history section was one of this page's major issues.
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To my knowledge it is not taught in school, however I have heard that there is a "movement" to revive low German in order to preserve the area's culture. My parents, who grew up there during WWII, are probably the last generation to really speak it on a daily basis.
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Since my credibility has been questioned, Iâll share the list of Danish, German, and English literature that Iâve based my material on. I speak all three languages fluently, as I have Danish and German heritage, and, of course, everyone today speaks
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Taking back what I said due to Moxy's claim that you are not citing your writing. As for the comparison part, yeah I guess I'd expect the lead for an old and massive country like China to not be shorter than the lead for a small section of Germany.
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While I agree the header is long, it is as long as necessary to provide a proper overview of the history, which I will expand upon in detail on the page. In fact, it is no longer than the header for "The German Empire," which has a similar length.
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words long. (2) This is a collaborative project, so you don't get to lock the article to other editors while you are working on it. If you want a space where you can work on the article without the distraction or nuisance of other editors, then
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abrupt action, without any attempt at dialogue, is what I find to be a nuisance. It's particularly frustrating because I have put multiple hours into writing it, and seeing it reverted overnight, without discussion, naturally invokes annoyance.
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That said, I promise to trim the header to be more concise. However, I would appreciate some time to fully write the sections where this information becomes relevant, so it can be properly incorporated into the
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The first, the odd fact that although Schleswig and Holstein had indeed belonged to the Crown of Denmark for ages past, it was in fact, in a most technical sense, a separate state, the unseparable
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I wrote about cuisine, economy, transport and radioactive contamination. What further questions are interesting? Do somebody have a good photo of marzipan, rotspon, rum and lakritz candy?
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shorter lead from scratch than try to cut down the long one though? Whatever you wanna do is fine as long as it's better written, the problem was just that it hadn't gotten any shorter.
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I suspect that the word "formally" is a mistake and that "formerly" is meant. I don't know enough about the subject to be bold, however, so I'll just flag the question here.
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