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used at the template; then you say it's not used on the IFA web site and therefore it can't be used at the template; now you revert to "it's not the official flag of NI". In football terms, the NI flag is used to represent NI, and that is what is relevant to this template. Your personal politically-motivated desire to remove the flag is not relevant.
715:. I have no problem with the UB being used to represent the international team but this is about "Football in Northern Ireland" and therefore is being used to represent Northern Ireland and not the Northern Ireland international team - if might sound only a small difference, but actually its quite a big one.--
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It's not up to you either to invent and apply rules as to when flags may be used, or to remove flags from templates, or to demand that others "prove" things to your satisfaction. You're shifting from one argument to the other - first you say the flag is not used at "local level" therefore it can't be
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Hi, I'm re-designing this template to clean it up a little. I'm modelling it on the
Football in England template which has league competitions on one side, Cups on the other and National teams and info down the middle. I've added all football competitions at senior level, all the league and most of
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A. NI is an exception to a normal it is a country (in FIFA terms) without a "national flag". B. I checked the other national templates and there are plenty without a national flag on them. Unless this template is for solely the international team then the use of this highly controvertial flag is
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Like I said its a "factually-motivated proposed change" not a "politically-motivated proposed change" - I think you should stop make personal attack and try and be a little more civil! You refuted nothing. 1. Is the Ulster Banner the Flag of
Northern Ireland, 2. Is this template used to navigate
568:(1) As noted above, it is the flag representing NI football. (2) Irrelevant, given 1 above. (3) Are any national flags used to represent other countries at levels other than international? (The answer is "yes" - they represent clubs in European competition; and the NI flag represents NI clubs.
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The word is "defence" and I refer you yet again to my previous responses. You've just restated your original "arguments", each of which is refuted. I suggest to you that edit-warring is not the way to go. There is no consensus for your politically-motivated proposed change.
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All the flags in these templates are "being used to represent and not the international team", therefore your argument that a flag is inappropriate doesn't work. Also, as you've been advised several times, the flag is not used only to represent the international team.
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Thats because they are the official flags of those countries. Is the Ulster Banner the Flag of
Northern Ireland. P.S. I'll talk however I want to talk! Now unless you can prove the either the Ulster Banner is the Flag of Northern Ireland
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Yes, I've said that on a number of occasion - it represents NI at international level - it is not used at local level and as it is not necessary (no flag on the
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Northern Ireland in a footballing sense, it is not only used for the national team but for clubs playing in UEFA competitions etc, there's no difference from any other country.
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There are way too many red links in this template, it's making a mess of the pages it's included on I feel. I propose removing it from all articles until it is improved. Anyone agree?
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So you have no defense. It'll be gone tomorrow unless you can come up with something constructive/productive - I shant be holdin me bret!--
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