Knowledge talk:WikiProject Punk music/Archive 1

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those who only used synthesisers, bands such as Krafwerk (1974) or those that only used electric gutars were at this time labled "New Wave". The British media latter labled such bands as Punk rock (a derogotory term because of their unliking of it and because many players or followers dressed like hood or hooker) first aplied to the 'Sex Pistles' in 1976 who then claimed to be New wave. The Cars were another band labed New Wave in the 70's. Many varients of New wave such as Plastic Punk (an equle amount of synthesizer sound whith distorted gittars such as Tubeway Army with Gary Newman who was lable king of punk in the 70's; Debbie Harry of Blondie was labled Queen of punk in the 70's) Its hanting form was lable Gothic punk (Siouxsie & the Banshees holding the queen of Gothic, The Cure having the then labled King of Gothic: Robert Smith), the Funky form of 'New wave' was labled 'New Romantic' in 1980. It has a rock drum beat (some times faster) but unlike Rock & roll usually lacks high 'A' notes. The Same sound has recently been labled by verious names especially Electro-pop.

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Discharge, Disorder etc hardcore and we had really never heard much US punk except the Dead Kennedys and few others. Of course it doesnt really matter what a style is called but I dont recognise what was written at all although I know a lot of the bands mentioned. In fact some the "Early history in Europe" is almost insulting. For example maybe the reason Black Flag didnt go down so well is some of their records didnt sound so great, not because people had any predudice. People LOVED the Dead Kennedys. Also "Expressive fans of Crass, were called crassholes." What ??! By who ? Who felt the need to write something like that ?? Should we note as a point of interest every petty insult people in different sub genres called each other behind their backs. That kind of thing is at the very least boring.

1341:(Please sign your comments mate, thanks) I have to agree that several of the articles I have stumbled across (I have a day-job that precludes too much editing activity at the moment) strike a ridiculously American POV at times. Perhaps that is unfair - they strike a ridiculously inept and incorrect POV at times, and I truly hope and expect that this isn't merely an American trait. American editors of punk rock are always ALWAYS valuable if they are contributing to the American aspects of punk that they know about, but it seems to me that American bias and/or guesswork and/or possibly-American nonsense-of-indeterminate-provenance is all compromising the presence of UK facts on WP with regards to punk rock. To see how ridiculous some of it is, you really do have to be a UK punk, I'm afraid. 5689:. The sources are of the lowest possible caliber ("setlist.fm", last.fm, and Myspace? Ugh). The few that are up to snuff (ie. the band's website) merely establish that the tour happened...they don't demonstrate that it was notable in any way. To justify an article about a concert tour you need to say something about it other than just who played, what was played, and the dates...the artistic approach, financial success, and relationship to the audience might be things to discuss that would show that the tour was notable. But these topics need to have received significant coverage in independent reliable sources first. -- 1733:. Has not been an honest anarchist since the 19th century, lol.) Anyway! I noticed on that tag that they put on punk rock talk pages, it is a picture of a kid with a mohawk graduating. Lol, for a music article would it not be better to have someone playing a guitar or something? The current one is like saying "Yes, all punk rockers actually have a college education." Social science, so they can back up their songs point. Currently, the leading thesis is "ANARCHY FOR EVERYONE, I WANNA DESTROY! ANARCHY ANARCHY ANARCHY!" Sorry if I offended anyone with my facetious musings, just asking if there could be a better option! 3105:

inactive lately, and a couple of punk-related articles have come up at AfD which fortunately I was able to save but which I thought could well have benefitted from some collaboration by the project, but I didn't think the project really had the necessary tools in place to keep track of these kinds of things. Bottom line: I'm trying to light a fire under us and give us the tools we need to really improve articles. You may have already noticed the redesigned main project page. Here are some of the other major changes:

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and delphine was NOT jennifer miro's girlfriend i don't know where you got that shit. furthermore, i don't think you need to know who's girlfriend she was, really. i knew those guys, jeff, rafael, alejandro, and richie was a roomate for a long time. i hung out at the mab all the time. 'research' the facts if you are weiting for a supposed encyclopedia, millions of people read this, why say things that are not true? the source is me the nuns and their friends. it beats inventing stuff

5539:. Just because they were influenced by punk bands doesn't necessarily make it a punk rock album, or put it in the purview of the punk music project. It'll probably fare better under the metal project as White Zombie are primarily recognized as a metal band, so members of that project are more likely to pay attention to the article and work on it. It's only tangentially related to punk rock, so I really don't see how tagging it for this project is going to help the article at all. -- 1427:

have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at

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consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.

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higher-profile writing jobs for other music publications. I have found the site to be one of the most reliable sources for news on punk-related artists, laregely because of the editorial oversight and the fact that they have close relationships with many record labels and are therefore able to confirm and fact-check their news items before they are published. They therefore pass Knowledge's criteria for

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non-news features like reviews. Again, some of these are user-submitted but others are written by the site staff (their reviews are marked with a "staff" tag so you can distinguish them from the user reviews). Punknews is pretty well-regarded as a reliable source in the punk/alternative music community. Scott Heisel, who used to be a punknews editor, went on to become the Music Editor for

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which they write in relation to punk rock. If I ever get the time, I will go through several punk articles and rigorously reference them. Until that time, maybe we should all start by referencing ALL our claims, and if we find claims that cannot be referenced, then perhaps they should all surely be summarily deleted with... um... extreme prejudice? :-) --

353:... thought it might be something that needs more unbiased eyes on it. I have my personal theories on the whole subject of the Dead Kennedys but those opinions don't belong in the Knowledge articles... These articles could use more eyes watching for bias on both sides. A proper re-write of Alternative Tentacles would be nice as well. 5011:, was PRODed on 10 December with the concern, "Wrongly formatted page". It was trivially easy to correct the format, but as I do not know much about popular music, I'm unsure whether the single is notable in its own right. Could someone please have a look at the page and either second or remove the PROD before 17 December? Thank you, 4667:, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. 5664:

excessive. I mean, if people want to know this, they can just look on Rise Against's website, can't they? The tour's going to be over soon, so I was thinking of maybe proposing a cleanup of the article that includes "events" (i.e., anything special) that happened on the tour as well as removing some of the stops. The article lists

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do we do after first wave punk?" in the late 1970s. I'd suggest calling it the "Post-punk and New Wave taskforce". I know I would join it; I have a pretty good knowledge and plenty of references for various types of punk rock, but the only form I'm actually interested in writing about on Knowledge is post-punk (see

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a punk subgenre it is still open as a matter of debate within the punk community. Just because (insert popular music magazine of choice here) labels something as punk (thus providing a reference) does not mean that it will be accepted as punk by our esteemed fellow editors. This goes doubly for the subgenres.

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I'm working on the Cockney Rejects page because they don't have a biography, just a collection of dated lists of members. I found their bio on the official website but there is a minor discrepancy in the year the band was founded; the site says 1978, and a previous editor says 1977. I feel like the

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album. Not a single one makes any mention of punk whatsoever. Without any sources to back them up, I have to assume that statements like "White Zombie carried their punk roots all the way until the end of their career" and "there is no denying that Soul-Crusher is punk through and through" are simply

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It's on my watchlist now. Seriously, anyone who thinks it's speedy worth really needs to work on their music history. Being the first emo band, Rites of Spring will probably end up qualifying as one of the more influential bands of the last 25 years, I mean, emo is one of the biggest things right now

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I think I like that idea. We could transform the inactive project into a New Wave task force of which this project would be the parent. That way we'd absorb the articles into our scope but have a separate task force for editors wanting to focus specifically on new wave. Seems consistent with how some

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It is a form of punk. In fact, "punk" and "New Wave" were synonymous at first. Legend has it the term was created by Seymour Stein at Sire Records in the late 1970s when he realized radio was not receptive to Talking Heads since they were called "punk", so he came up with a different term to describe

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In 1974 progresive rock bands (such as Roxy Music, Blondie, New York Dolls, Patty Smith, etc; influenced by Rock & Roll band such the Romones, the Knack, The Saints... these I would lable proto-punk) added integrated circitry distortion to electric guitars and synthesizers (non Valve), along with

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And, yes, I do agree that most of the articles on punk are US-centric, with the only later UK punk articles of any size being "Oi". However, I can't determine if this is due to any actual prejudice on the American side of things or simply to the fact that there are more editors hailing from the US.

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Further compounding the problem is the sheer amount of bands that were around in the late 70's and early 80's, many of which went undocumented outside of regional fanzines (of which there was also a glut) that are no longer available for reference. Even when something is documented as fitting within

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extensively; I'm particularly averse to the References & Tributes section, which continually gets irrelevant information added to it (so *what* if blink 182 has a song with a "1-2-3-4" count, or a Brazilian band with no link has a song that namechecks the band?), as well as the opening paragraph,

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Of course, in theory citations trump all. If something like Allmusic.com or Rolling Stone or Spin magazine call a band emo, then it's probably safe to include them under the emo category. If anyone objects tot he classification, point to the source which can be discussed and analyzed. There's this

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What's important to consider in emo's case is that what the term "Emo" signifies has changed. Not every emo band these days has listened to Rites of Spring; why should they when they can listen to Sunny Day Real Estate or Jimmy Eat World? It's one thing to bemoan modern emo in favor of tru emo, but

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There's some great stuff in the wikipedia article on the Ramones. I've taken a look to see if I take the article forward a little further with some changes to the structure and also added a little info into new categories. Anyone interested in taking a look to see if they can improve it even better,

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is an example where one probably isn't needed: there are only 6 directly related articles (the band one, Zoli, 2 albums & 2 EPs). Remember a navigation template is for inter-article navigation; It's not a discography. If you find you're filling it with a bunch of unlinked text instead of working

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album]]). It's little more than a stub now, but how do I get it rated on the quality/importance scale? Also, while looking around, I noticed none (or at least, very few) Anti-Flag albums had the "WikiProject Punk music" tag on their talk pages. Is this an oversight, or do albums not traditionally

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Well written and researched article. However, I would suggest changing the line about Minor Threats "Straight Edge" being their defining song on the subject. The best known M.T. song about straight edge would probably be "Out of Step", as that is the song that contains the "don't drink, don't smoke,

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richie did not die in 1995 of cancer. please don't print misinformation like that it's not respectful. richie died of AIDS complications in 2003. please check the SSecurity death index it tells you exactly what date, but let me tell you, it was on May 24, 2003 i had just seen him a few days earlier.

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is currently a nominee to be our first Collaboration of the Week, but it needs at least 1 more support vote by Thursday in order to become the CotW. I encourage all editors interested in a collaborative effort to improve this article to please visit the CotW page and voice your support. Also, please

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One problem I had with the New Wave project when it started was the name, because they also wanted to included post-punk articles; in the US, many post-punk bands were called New Wave when they actually weren't. However, both genres do overlap a bit, given they were both answering the question "What

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This article has been nominated for deletion. It isn't currently tagged as being associated with this project, but it should be, being about one of the key early 80's UK punk bands. I've done what I can to improve the article - any further improvements would be welcome, as would contributions to the

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zine which was recently deleted for being "non-notable". It's unfortunate because there are many far less notable things that have detailed articles. Anyways it's sad because things in more outgoing/respectable genres are far more likely to get "Respectable" press about them. Oh well. Anyways my

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OK, looks like this roll call was a success. I'll be cleaning up the members list to reflect this. Rather than "monthly" as originally planned, I think these roll calls will be more like "every few months" or "as needed", because if we were really doing them monthly then we'd be in a constant state

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Welcome to a new feature of the project talk page. In order to keep us up-to-date on our number of active members, we'll have a roll call every month. The idea is to post the thread near the beginning of the month and leave it up for the entire month, allowing editors to add their signatures to the

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when tagging articles, so be sure to do that! I've created all the necessary categories, so it's ready to go (again, something I couldn't believe...most of the categories didn't exist even though there were articles already marked to be in them. Once I created them I found they were instantaneously

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The phase 1/phase 2 groupings (as reflected in the lists) are badly served by choosing 1980 as the separation year. That was right in the middle of punk's popularity in many regions, including Southern California. Why not choose 1986 or so, when punk seemed to have run its course and the bands of

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A new user has made some major contributions to the anarcho-punk page and I would like to know what others think of these edits. See the talk page where I go into detail further. As for straight edge, there is disagreement on whether or not avoidance of sexual promoscuity is a central tenet of sXe,

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I'd have to say: not a lot of individual households and squats merit articles of their own. I'd rather see this broken down only to the squats and punk houses in a particular city (or perhaps, in some cases, neighborhood). Otherwise, we are going to get down to the level of the non-notable: at this

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the emo article has caused friction because it represents bands that while they may not be emo, have been labelled as such, thus it could be argued that because they are seen to be emo then they are. green day are on the whole seen as a punk rock band, so why not leave them as such. If the wiki emo

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stops (I copy-pasted into Word and numbered it to count it). That's a bit excessive, but I don't think there's enough prose to split the article into different "legs" of the tour. Maybe we could add a little more about the supporting acts' involvement in the tour as well, and any highly-publicized

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Yes, it is true that just because a band is influenced by punk bands it doesn't necessarily make them a punk band. White Zombie carried their punk roots all the way until the end of their career, although Metal became much more prominent in the band's music with each release and thus tagging their

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While both New Wave and post-punk are ultimately filed under the punk genre, given their breadth (and the fact that those genres end up including bands like Madness, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, The Cure, and U2), and especially the fact that in retropect post-punk was sort of an in-between stage in

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for rating articles by class and importance. You'll notice that the 1.0 editorial team bot will automatically update the table of articles every 3-5 days. This was something I couldn't believe we didn't have already, as it's one of the most useful tools for any wikiproject. However, its usefulness

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I have been a regular at punknews for a while and have even contributed a few news stories. There is, in fact, editorial oversight. Users submit the news items, but they are asked to provide a source in the form of a link, and the punknews editors then fact-check the info with the artist or record

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I'm asking for some help if I may. My better half is doing her dissertation on wikipedia and punk fanzines and the similarities and differences (a very rough overview by me that). For it, she'd like to interview a couple of regular Wiki contributors to the punk project side of things, as well as a

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Unfortunately, when it comes to punk and it's subgenres there are going to be a lot of POV issues, perhaps more so than any other genre of music. The debate over what is or it is not punk has been raging since the term was first applied (indeed, there is a matter of controversy as to exactly WHEN

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Punk Pathetique had to fight its ground with copious quotes, way beyond the call of duty, just because some non-UK-punks had never heard of it. Well then, surely the same stringent referencing should apply to all the general sweeping statements made by (certain) editors who clearly know nothing of

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I read the article on "Hardcore Punk" and its seems to be from an entirely American point of view... almost as if the UK scene was some kind of incidental thing. I was a punk in the early 80s in the UK and I and my friends considered ourselves to be into "hardcore punk". We considered bands like

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lived). I can think of another dozen punk houses and squats; a few short-lived squats (more anarcho than punk) would have decent documentation because they were public, visible squats that humg signs out the window and attracted press attention; the others, though, are going to be hard to document

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Im fine with making a list of "in-active" users. That seems to do the job. Also if we were really crazy, we could go through the histories of the pages we work on and try to encourage users to join us? These user names could also go on a list of "users who have contributed" to a punk music realted

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There's actually no set guideline for this; it's something I've personally used as a rule-of-thumb when writing band article utilizing wiki guidelines. I've been telling people about it (primarily with a guideline proposal for discussing genres in music articles a number of people have seen), but

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Add new articles to the project by tagging their talk pages with the project template. Remember to fill in the class and importance fields according to the assessment scale, otherwise they will be added to the unassessed categories. As you browse Knowledge, whenever you come across a punk-related

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I use punknews as a source pretty regularly, as they cover a number of acts whose articles I edit. The news bits on the site are submitted by readers, but they are reviewed and fact-checked by the site staff (normally by contacting the record label to see if it's true). They also have a number of

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article lists five genres (folk, jazz, R&B, rock and roll/rock, and traditional pop), which is a perfectly acceptable summation of it's origins. Heavy metal music, notorious for it's sub-categories which draw on all kinds of regional scenes, only lists two (Blues-rock & psychedelic rock).

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proposal for an appreciation week to end on Knowledge Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who

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article, I want to help write the best article possible but it is constantly revamped, also many users are not using the talk page. Yeah, this is going to be a hard article to write and maintain but it's something I'm willing to put the time into. As you can see, I have spent alot of time writing

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WELL. Thats done. Ish. Almost every band now has a listed orgin and active years. Im off to expand the lists with more bands, so if anyone would like to handle the brief descriptions, thatd be nice. Also, i think british bands should specify which country they hail from, and not just show the UK

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to WikiProject Punk music (because its band, Rise Against, is also a part of this WikiProject). I don't really know what to do with this article... It's basically one long list with just a little prose at the top. It lists every single concert at every single stop of their tour... It seems a bit

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is currently listed under WikiProject Metal but should really be under WikiProject Punk music. Although the band became more grounded in heavy/groove metal later on in their career, anything they released prior to 1989 sounded more like Black Flag, Flipper, and The Birthday Party (whom they were

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are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please

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The article currently includes a laundry list of about 30 "Notable Oi! bands"--just names, no other info in that list. My sense is that this does not belong in the article on Oi!, but perhaps as its own list-entry. Is that correct, or is this an acceptable format for a genre article? Thank you.

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doesn't have one and they're an admin). Now, two of them have no contributions after adding their name (one has only contributed here) and the rest haven't contributed for at least a month. Perhaps move to a section titled "Inactive Participants" (and do the same for anyone else who hasn't been

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In many cases, articles on punk bands (or rock bands, in general) are deleted since deletionist editors don't accept music websites such as punkbands.com, punktastic.com etc. and sometimes even allmusic.com as reliable sources. I've started a discussion here, your welcome to add your comments:

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Hello all. Over the last few weeks I've been working on a major revamp of this WikiProject, including a number of improvements designed to get the project moving forward and give us the tools to be as effective as possible. Basically I did this because the project seems to have been relatively

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page that they have news editors who are responsible for confirming submitted news items and editing them before they are posted. They also have a team of volunteer staff writers, editors, and interviewers, and some of their past staffers (like Scott Heisel, as mentioned above) have gone on to

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This means, in the long run, much more legwork and "laborious referencing" to be done by all of us. It also means being willing to admit one might be wrong, especially as regards a subgenre within a different geographical "scene" than one's own. Since punks are almost by definition obnoxious

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accordingly. I've already taken the liberty of going through the list and moving a number of editors to the "Inactive" section. All of these were editors who had either been banned, retired, or hadn't made an edit to Knowledge in over a year. Having a monthly roll call will make this easier.

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article goes against the original emo fans, and takes into account the fact that their are competing definitions then why should we try and protect the essentialist arguments of people who say green day aren't punk (whilst also respecting their opinions as part of the punk ideology section?

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era. There isn' a trace of the genre that appears on the album. I don't understand the reason for tagging something as being Metal when it's anything but. Even if White Zombie is widely recognized as being a groove/heavy metal band, there is no denying that Soul-Crusher is punk through and

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I recently started a page for the band Lesser Of Two. It was set for deletion. In the ensuing discussion it was mentioned that the fact that the band was D.I.Y. ran counter to Knowledge notability guidelines. Is this true? I would appreciate some clarification and assistance. Thank you.

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don't fuck" standards. Other than that, making more mention of individuals like Ian McKaye and Tim McIlrath would fill out the details better. Especially since not every member of certain bands consider(d) themselves straight edge (Minor Threat, for example). All in all, very well done.

5054:. The discussion has reached consensus to remove the reviews, though is still accepting further input into the matter. We are especially requiring more discussion on what steps to take next. Your input would be appreciated on what is a matter that will affect a lot of music articles. 3870:– I started to listen to punk rock music in 1978 when I was 12 and I didn't stop. I can help in many ways, such as: wikifying articles, wikitables and templates, sorting out references, disambiguating wikilinks, assessing articles, reverting vandalism, etcetera. Also, I joined some 2507:

couple of people who have created/edited past/current fanzines. If anyone would like to help, or can point me in the direction of anyone that can/would, I and her good self would appreciate it hugely. If you need to contact me, just whack a comment on my talk page or reply to this.

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Please state your opinion about the proposal and whether it should replace the current project page. I believe it will make the project much more organized and attract more participants. Please note that it is just a proposal and some things over there are just suggestions, such as

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Searching "punk" on google restricted to wikipedia gives over 26,000 articles. I'm not convinced that all the articles related to this project have been found. Does anyone know of a way to search which articles contain "punk" but don't have the wikiproject tag on their talk page?

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on your user page. As a courtesy, if you are leaving the project, retiring from Knowledge, or simply no longer active in the WikiProject, please remove the userbox from your user page. This will remove you from the category and help the project to keep its active membership list

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We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as

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The way to clear it up is to point out that some fans of emo do not consider those newer bands to be emo (provide cites of course). Just yesterday I was talking with someone who thought Rancid was crust punk. Clearly there are some major differences in interpretation of genre.

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them, which ended up getting them airplay. Soon afterward Stiff Records used it a bit in their marketing, particularly with Elvis Costello. Despite the purist streak that often manifests in the genre's fans, punk is pretty diverse, particularly in the New Wave/post-punk era.

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of the project. Longtime members should revisit the page, as it has been revised. Consider adding a brief summary of your punk-related Knowledge interests next to your name. This assists with collaboration and allows other editors to seek out help in particular subject

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I was wondering if anyone else would be interested in helping out in cleaning them up a bit. They could use a bit of work, such as years active, band orgins, summaries and adding missing groups, as well as deleting ones with no article, or creating articles for those

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Currently, 468 articles are assigned to this project, of which 164, or 35.0%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See

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All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. —

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There are a couple of problems with this (featured) article as it stands. One is the overuse of fair use images, and the other is the preponderance of unreferenced breathless student journalist words like "seminal" (used four times and also quite rightly listed at

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There's definitely a few more heads needed in the discussion on the use of non-free images in the article. Currently key punk images, such as The Ramones first album and the Anarchy In The UK poster, are being removed for lack of consensus as to their validity.

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So, what should we devote our energies to first? There's a lot of stuff to be cleaned up, and a lot of POV conceptions about what punk is and isn't floating around on Knowledge. Sometimes it seems a lot of people are unaware of the true diversity of punk, from

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An admin speedy deleted the Behind Enemy Lines page for being a non-notable vanity article. Am I the only one here who thinks that isn't the case? I mean, Aus-Rotten is pretty notable for a crust band, and they are made up of most of the same members right?

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This hasn't been done since 2008. If you active can you please add your name so we can get some kind of idea of how many people are actively participating in the project. We say we have 50+ but I feel that that is several times more then reality. cheers.

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I find people on wikipedia are pretty quick to nominate punk-related things for deletion, whether out of simple ignorance or a different definition of what is important. Admittedly most punk bands probably don't need an article..but for example the

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well, which I believe includes noise rock in its scope. Editors from those projects are much more likely to take an interest in improving the article than editors from this project would be, as its connection to punk rock seems tangential at best.

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Is it? I admit it's been awhile since I read much about new wave, but I certainly never thought of it as a subgenre of punk rock. It had some roots in punk rock, maybe, but I never thought of it as a subgenre. I mean, I could see how artists like

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i was wonderinbg if you cover post-punk bands as well. I asked in the wikiprject alternative music that joy division fell under this project, although you seem to have ignored them. Well maybe you should include them, as they are very important.

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to add the project tag to the article's talk page. If you have trouble with it drop me a message on my talk page & I'll walk you through it. As for keeping people from redirecting the articles, you'll need to establish that they meet the

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Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced BLP articles if they are not sourced, so your project may want to source these articles as soon as possible. See the next, message, which may help.

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are the most important to establishing notability. For albums, tracking down links to a few professional reviews is typically a good start. If you have trouble adding sources to the article, drop another note here & I'll lend a hand.

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please fire away. In particular there is some stuff I've added under the sections on 'Influence' and 'Awards and distinctions' that I am sure that people knowledgeable and with good references from somewhere to back it up could expand.

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I think it can be used, after all it has been around for a long time, it is updated on a daily, or even hourly, basis, it is well known within the punk communities and bands, and at least to me it is the only source for punk news...

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facts might help. Most of the problematic material is complete and utter POV. Yes, sorry folks, but original UK punks are still alive and well, and they are quite able to remember the way these things really happened! I remember an

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Its not. :( I brought it up at Wikiproject:Albums, and I think they might be working on making a an automated category into which articles are added when the cover field is left blank, so that'd make the process a hundred times

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I guess it depends on how much coverage it received in the sources. If there are a couple of sources that give siginficant coverage to the label (not just the bands on the label...the label itself) then I'd say it's sufficient.

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Well, I would think just a picture of a punker playing a guitar would be a good thumb, and I am not sure for the anarchy symbol. Maybe we should not use a symbol with so much of an political ideological association at all? Just

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where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.

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it's getting somewhat mangled in translation. Simply put, how broad you are in the lead will vary for article to article. Aim for generality, but how general you are will depend on the content of each article's lead section.

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your opinions. And while you're of course fully entitled to those opinions, I see no actual evidence that this album falls under the umbrella of punk music. I still maintain that keeping the article within the purview of

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Without looking at the articles, I'd say keep for sure fashioncore, as long as the article is about it's use as a slur since no band that I know of self-identifies that way, melodic hardcore, and Taqwacore (analogous to

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Hey im a new participant in the WikiProject PRM (should it say WikiProject Punk Rock Music at the top instead of "WikiProject Punk music (section)"... anyway yeah ive been working on a number of articles, mainly in the

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Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you.

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right now and it looks like the decision reached at the Deletion Review might effect both those articles. I'd appreciate any other opinions in the matter. Some users, it seems, are even questioning the notability of a

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Two entries I started have been targeted for deletion, and I would appreciate people familiar with punk and metal to join the discussion so that it conforms with the relevant projects. Thanks. These are the entries:

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This could later be referred to whenever a punk AfD needs to be saved. I was also thinking that a list of reliable music websites should be assembled, but I'm not sure where to propose that, I'm still a newbie here.

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I would assume that different areas of the world experienced the changess at different times. At least in the UK 1980 was a very important year in the rise of post punk/new wave bands like blondie and the jam etc.

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Subject was recently prodded. Discussion led to the prodder making the article acceptable (the original was a mess). The article could use some work, and this project seems the best place to go for the request.

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There used to be a "funny punk" article, but it's gone now. I'm not saying it was a well referenced article, but it added an interesting view to punk. It defintely needed more work. Yeah it's a good thing that

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I'm glad other people are interested in weeding out made up genres. I got Jazz punk deleted as well as a few others, and am working to make sure that the only genres that stay up are those that can be sourced.

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Just a note, does the pop punk accurately describe parts of their sound? the article seems to reflect that and we've used them in the section on the pop punk dealing with the most contemporary sound. thanks.

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article has come a long way, still could use some good work and looking over, but definitely much better than where it was. what do you guys think? Also I have an article in the Deletion Review section about

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I just wish to comment about the anarchy symbol above, is this to say that all of punk is associated with anarchy? Or that anarchy began with punk? (Even though they are posers IMO, need to read up on some

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Ok you seem to have a valid argument, however this is not the right place as we are not sure who your talking about...and lets raise the grammar level to above grade5 pls ...no need for foul language ....

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I put these pictures up. Not because of any particular reason, I just put up the first two pictures I saw with some connection to punk. If you have better alternatives, please post them here. Thanks.

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was redirected to Pop punk which is OK, but there was some information there that could have been added to Pop punk, which when i looked through it, i couldnt find. also please explain astroturfing.

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article. Maybe a few people from this wikiproject can give their input. The band's official website calls them Horror Rock. Their music, however, differs a great deal from the definition of

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If it were me, I'd nominate all of the Rise Against tour articles (as I see there are others) in a group AfD. I highly doubt there's significant secondary source coverage on these tours. --

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to provide some blanket guidelines for various types of articles. This should be more or less complete within the next few days, but feel free to take a look at it now and make suggestions.

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As of this writing, I have sent a message to every user on our Participant List... this should generate some more responses there, plus give us a chance to meet each other more.. word, :D

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What a previous editor said means very little; over the article's history, that date in the first sentence has been anywhere from '77 to '79. The official band site is more trustworthy. --

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Seems to me like that'd be the equivalent of changing all the American entries from the flag of the US to the flag of whatever state the act is from. The country is the United Kingdom. --

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page. I was surprised when I noticed there wasn't a subcategory for it. New York has its own tab, and so should LA. Instead, the subcategorization is in North America which is too broad.

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for the criteria. It is really quite insignificant that they are unsigned, but i suppose if anything, it does indicate to an extent that they do not have the notability for an article.

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In a sense, yes, after the fact. But I doubt their train of thought was "We want to make punk irrelevant!" At the time, quite a few punk/New Wave bands were fine being called New Wave.

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Once again, if you look at the history of Sabbath, Hawkwind, etc., this makes perfect sense. But - gah! - the psychobilly article has eighteen (18), most of which overlap (heavy metal

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is in just ridiculous shape. I'd recommend either a major over haul, or a flat out deletion of what seems to be an un-notable band. Yet somehow, it's already survived one attempt...

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I ran across this article a while ago. I never heard of neo punk before, but I cleaned-up the article because it was terrible. I had doubts about the existence of such a genre, but

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later work as being Metal would make more sense. However, the thing is that White Zombie (or at least a good portion of the band) didn't even like or listen to Metal during the

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I'm super green, how do I tag them? Also, there's one particular user who always deletes the pages, how do I set them up so we can work on them without them getting deleted? --

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on your user page, then you appear in the category automatically. If you choose not to place the userbox on your page, you can still add yourself to the category by placing

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music venues along with general DIY culture (zines, etc.). I think this should be a subproject of the punk project. How do people feel about this? Any suggestions or ideas?

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article because I was working with such a band at the time, and it has just under 20,000 Ghits and a German Knowledge article. I'm more familiar with it than avant-punk. ~

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back around 2000 that I plan to work into the article soon, so if anyone else can get some print references for these controversial genres, please let everyone know.

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street punk?) I know music's reaching this point where everybody draws some inspiration from everyone else, but, it's ridiculous way to show it. Li'l help o'er here?

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Also, for a lot of this, verifiability is going to be very difficult. I can think of two punk houses in Seattle that would be easily documented (the house where the

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page and help out with some of the tasks listed there. There are a number of old tasks that are still listed. If they've been dealt with, remove them from the list.

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Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

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basically has nothing on the page, and seems like a neologism. From the looks of it, a number of these pages could stand to be merged, redirected, or deleted.

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article recently and would like some help from anyone who is offering. I wrote about one paragraph that's not that good, so help would be appreciated! Thanks!--

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and was so offended I flagged up the problems he has reverted my changes. I'd be grateful for some wider input; the article really needs help in my opinion. --

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to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Knowledge:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at

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page has been revamped, and there is plenty of stuff on it that needs attention. Some tasks are pretty stale, so take a look at them and update as necessary.

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I think the project page needs to specify the template(s) users can use on articles which are punk stubs. One example I have found is {{US-punk-band-stub}}.

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For quick reference for others unfamiliar with the genres and because I'm a nerd (note that several of these artists started as first-wave punk musicians):

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has been inactive for a while and is now even marked as historical. Given the renewed activity at WP:PUNK, how about that project into this one, given that

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This is old news, but the debate decision was to merge "pop punk revival" into "pop punk". This was a while ago. This section can be archived or discarded.

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Always room for more articles in the project :) I've tagged the main article with the project template, feel free to tag the associated ones ie. albums. --

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I was under the impression "New Wave" was just a term coined by the music industry when trying to "embrace" the punk movement and thus make it irrelevant.

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There was a tech metal page that had a lot of vague references to a handful of metal and core genres. I completly redid that page and turned it into the

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The article says they changed their name to just GBH in '84. Should the page be moved to reflect that? As well as changing any mention on album articles?

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Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at

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Hi there. I need some assistance. I, as well as some other editors, have noticed that many punk band articles don't match the lead-in format for the

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has been a mess for a while (people are constantly redirecting it, deleting stuff, and trying to delete it). Can someone help me keep an eye on it?--

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don't hesitate to nominate articles that you feel would make good candidates for collaboration, and to vote in support of some of the nominations. --

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That's it for now. The next step is to hold a roll call to find out how many active project members we currently have. I think I'll do that...now. --

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This becoming an effing massive project. Anyone care to help sift through Punk band categories and add them? This is turning me into an wikiadict...

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I'll echo the above two statements and add that if a band has only over played punk rock then saying they are a punk rock band is general enough. --

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on wikipedia. The dispute is over whether or not to mention the genre at all, and if so how to word it in a neutral fashion. Thanks for the help! --

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and being very impressed with it, I decided to propose a similar layout and ideas to our project. You can take a look at my proposed project page

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them. There is a substantial difference. That's why, on user-submitted news items, you will see underneath the title: "submitted by <user: -->

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By the way some of these like thrashcore and melodic hardcore, are actually fairly well-known terms. A google search would probably back this up.

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well, yes, but there is strong punk influence in metalcore. But since metalcore sucks (IMO) and I don't ever listen to it, I can't really help.

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After 13 days I am closing this. Thanks you all for replying. I will see what I can do to reduce the artificial inflation of numbers. cheers --

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Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

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I am also trying to figure out about rating —having tagged and worked on "punk" articles without rating or assessment… You'll find a list of

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I'm currently lobbying for some music genre consistency, specifically relating to how concise the stylistic origins sections are. I mean, the

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article. I think the redirect should be removed as it is misleading. Punk metal is a far broader genre than metalcore, it's like redirecting

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Yeah, I just went and listened to about a dozen of their songs and the only one that sounded punkish at all to me was "Mindshaker Meltdown."

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was created recently. it doesn't specifically mention punk, but it has the hardcore punk footer template. is this a valid term or fodder for

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why the "key artists" of metalcore are changed? i think the former key bands were more appropriated....who the fuck are judge and overcast?

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will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the

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The news is used sparingly. In February I distributed it with my other account. I could do another round some time in the near future --

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I just added us to the new featured media classification. (FYI if any notable punk band has ever releced any music under a free license

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article and not have separate pages for them. I'll repost this on the front page of the WikiProject PM. Thanks. Here's the link to the

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the evolution from punk to alternative rock, the best approach might be to create task-forces specifically dedicated to those genres.

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Oi. The work around here is never ending. Now I've noticed our categories could use some cleaning, neatening and such. C'est la vie.

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In the spirit of sharing the resources that we as a community have I created a central place to list what resources each of us has.

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It says to include bands that have played some form of punk at some time. Seeing as hardcore punk is a form of punk, yes, for sure.

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Here's a list of punk genres of Knowledge that seem to be neologisms and barring the citation of sources I feel should be deleted:

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I don't know if anyone reads this page, ever, but someone has put up a lot of old out-of-print Heartattacks, MRRs, and other zines

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I intend to work on cleanup more than anything else, due to the large number of POV ridden articles written like fanzine features.

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If anyone has any books dealing with the Belfast punk scene in the 70s/80s you may be able to shed some light on this discussion.

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If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles that your project covers, to a special "incubation page", contact me,

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If anyone removes any redlinks they should probably be listed somewhere unless clearly non-notable, I'm game to turn some blue.

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band's official site must be correct, but the design of the site doesn't give me much confidence. I'm not sure which to trust.

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linked as the parent topic in the category description. That seems to be the standard scheme for categorizing acts by genre. --

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page over there, which should list the current article our project will currently direct its effords in order to take it to a

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OK. I move to make an list of inactive user names and also to alphabetize the list we currently have. Support? Counterpoints?

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I'm currently working on creating new templates for punk bands. Ignite is next up, but are there any suggestions for others?

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Mother Love Bone is punk?! My mom listens to them (and by extension, I've heard them too) and they never struck me as punk.

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is up for deletion, maybe he's not notable enough, yet my articles about even more mediocre things aren't being deleted! :(

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I can't see any reason why it should be deleted. I commented on the deletion page, hope the discussion can be closed soon.

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To the barricades, to the barricades! Get out the molotovs! OK, maybe I'm overreacting, but Antischism was speedied under

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There's an article on a book about 77 punk that will be deleted unless you help saving it by commenting on its AfD page:

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As part of my cusade against the "genre edit wars" that plague many band articles, I have made the following proposal at

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needs a serious trimming of its external links, and needs its references analyzed and converted into the proper format.

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Admins have no more authority as editors than anyone else. Here are some useful links for things admins specifically do.

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The "list of notable oi! bands" within the article should go, as it's entirely unreferenced and therefore an example of

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and removed any unsourced claims in the article. Please feel welcome to inprove the article by adding information from

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AN additional task would be going through discogs of all bands on the list and making sure articles have album covers.

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If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me,

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standards, nor has Google revealed anything. Anybody got any input as to their notability, or should I AfD them up? --

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Thank you. I received a different answer at the music genre talk page, but this response seems much better informed.

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bands like The Used and so forth have been called emo for years at this point. At some point people need to let go.

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All WikiProjects are invited to have their "milestone-reached" announcements automatically placed onto Knowledge's

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subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering

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Theres still something funny going on. Looks like theres an extra column. Hmm. I'll see if i can figure that out.

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There is reason to claim that the actress had a substantial influence on the genre and its followers, as implied

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I agree it doesn't have to be the same in every instance. FYI this stemmed from a conversation Tim and I had at

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and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at

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That's pretty cool, good job! Maybe replace the Sex Pistols logo in the final frame with something else, like

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as a source but only references the book twice. Surely there must be more useful information in that book. --

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Because you haven't written it yet. Sorry for correcting spelling; it's like nails on a chalkboard for me. --

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This may be an obvious question, but Punk Music is my first WikiProject. I recently created an article for

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No work need be done by the project themselves; they just need to provide some details when they sign up. A

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were coming from a punk background, but if we're talking about the music popularly known as "new wave" (ie.

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By all means, go right ahead. You've been doing good work on these project pages, by the way. Great job! --

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know-it-alls as regards music (I know I am) this is not something I see happening in the forseeable future.

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Since that talk page doesn't seem to get much traffic, I'm posting here to see if anyone can weigh in. --

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As an American myself I hope it's the latter, as an American punk I am almost certain it's the former. --

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article, which was recommended to be improved on the project page, still needs a bit of work though. -

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will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's

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Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

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This is about 4 months behind. There is also currently no valid nominations. What should happen? --

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With these new tools in place there are several tasks which require attention from project members:

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Anyone wanna fix what the anon did? I would, but I don't have time to go in individually right now.

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just say "rock band" in the lead sentence. Stuff like this should be done on a case-by-case basis.

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as a "reliable, third-party, published source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." --

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for more experienced editors. The more members we have, the more effective we can be as a project.

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If you would be so kind as to add books you think that may be helpful to other editors. cheers --

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Please take a look at all these, edit them judiciously, and tag them for deletion if necessary.

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comments and discussing points on the talk page. Let me know if there is anything more I can do.

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Could we exchange the Union Jack in the list for the appropriate country flag, where applicable?

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Trying to get some editors to have input on a content disagreement at the Manitoba article (see

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list. This way we can gauge our number of active contributors on a regular basis and update the

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I'm considering a category for Stza/Crack Rock/Leftover Crack etc. related articles. Thoughts?

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There seem to be a goodly number of Oi! bands covered on WP; might it be worthwhile to form a

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the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances,

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You should nominate something. We might also consider changing it to the Collaboration of the

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You could also do separate New Wave and post-punk taskforces; whatever works best for people.

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article. I do think that as the WikiProject Punk music group we should support the article on

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flag. Oh, and if anyone knows about the counties and such, they could use some details there.

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Also, fun fact: Duran Duran initially envisioned themselves as "the Sex Pistols meets Chic".

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being the current collaboration article, which I just put for the sake of the demonstration.

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Looks fine to me now. In-line citations would probably help prevent this in the future. -

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good J04n? Also Can we try to hash out whom should be on this list. Would a band such as

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will result in the most benefit to the article itself. I'd suggest adding tagging it for

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/77:_The_Year_of_Punk_and_New_Wave

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rate we are going to end up with articles about each of ourselves and all of our friends.

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Greetings fellow punk rock enthusiasts. Would one of you please be so kind to look over

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The picture of the clash that we use as our project image is under deletion at commons

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and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at

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for the Punk music WikiProject. There's still room for improvement but it's a start.

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to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome

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Hi. My question relates to the proper format of a music genre article, specifically

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I looked at all the edits they have made and this is the only page they've edited.

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Sounds totally fake, especially since the only band referenced doesn't have a page.

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Actually that's right. It comes from the early 1980s British bands like Discharge

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depends entirely on editors filling in the "class" and "importance" fields in the

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can be used as a reliable resource for articles within the scope of this project?

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I'm seeing an increasing number of articles on this topic on the net. For example

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This band is certainly notable enough for their own article. Why isn't there one?

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On a related note, should the user names be alphabetized? There is a precedent at

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I did manage to get the article permanently restored . It definitely needs work.

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stir up a lot of debate that often degenerates into inconclusive back-and-forth.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Sounds interesting. I don't know anything about to topic so I can't help much--

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Should I nom. it for deletion then? That kind of seems where it's going... ---

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Yes Guerillero, that is a perfect place to list band's for potential articles.

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is just about a regional scene, so it has about as much right to exist as eg

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Yes, sorry, this was me as i removed content he added but didn't remove the

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article up to snuff lately, would appreciate some more eyes on it. Thanks,

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If you have not already done so, please add your name and interests to the

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that was changed from "punk rock" band to "rock band". See discussion at

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Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people

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I've converted the Collaboration of the Week to the Collaboration of the

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or just a secondary one. Again, see talk page and recent edit summaries.

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Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of

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Should we deleted usernames on the Participant List which are Redlinked??

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This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the

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lead-in sentence Request for Comments - "rock band" vs. "punk rock band"

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actually used it in an interview with punknews.org, so I'm confused. --

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actually i think i might have added a few. Thanks for fixing this! ~

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and will probably end up influences a huge chunk of music yet to come.

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of the other successful genre projects handle these kinds of things. --

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this term was applied, with US and UK punks making conflicting claims).

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Yes, if needed that's the option to take, per many other WikiProjects.

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Hey all. We need to get up a good section on the LA scene in the main

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are all terms I've seen outside Knowledge, for whatever that's worth.

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for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were

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by the time you wrote this, but I'll keep it in mind for the future.

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I would love to help out. It has been on my to do list for a while--

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Punk music articles have been selected for the Knowledge 0.8 release

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I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the

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is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found

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I've been working on articles about punk venue spaces for a while (

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Would that be like, England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales' flags ?

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to extend the reach of Knowledge worldwide. Please help us, with

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Version 0.8 is a collection of Knowledge articles selected by the

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Definitely. A couple of good source books for that topic would be

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links to existing articles, you probably shouldn't create it. --

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Looks like a typo for "hockey puck"… - 05:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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If it's to include mainly articles about bands, then I suggest

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Members of this Wikiproject may be interested in commenting at

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If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at

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with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's

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the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person,

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The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

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I've found 2 reliable references that assert its notability.

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Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement

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for me and to point out anything huge I am missing. cheers--

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Well they need to establish some sort of notability through

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on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at

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to reconsider. I've already started a thread on their talk.

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Knowledge:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

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Click here for more information or to sign your project up.

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So does that mean the Redscare article should be recreated?

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Moved the following two bullets from the project page: --

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Can someone who knows what they are doing venture over to

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sounds like a better bet to me. Thank you for your time.--

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Scum punk (2nd nomination)

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There seems to be enough sources for a small-good stub --

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or some similar list article could be created. Currently

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Sorry, I just don't see it. I checked the sources in the

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Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?

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Knowledge:Articles_for_deletion/Red_Scare_Industries here

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When you're talking about punk music, "hardcore" means

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You are now a god to me. You have my complete support.

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article that isn't already part of the project, add it!

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Apologies for posting this here if this isn't suitable

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User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States

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Distinguishing genres and styles, and ending edit wars

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Hey there. I have a difficult dispute going on in the

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Maybe so, but everything appears pretty out of order.

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Dave Smyth (producer)

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Red Scare Industries

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for details. More than 150 projects and work groups

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User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory

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Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "[[WP

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Request for comment on Biographies of living people

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"Hardcore" 5892:is the only music genre article to have attained 3531:Examples of artists that are classified as both: 3187:for new users such as anons and new accounts, or 3122:The previous "collaboration" page has become the 2176:Actually an even better example of glam punk are 1512:Please contribute to the debate over this on the 7394:. I have copied most of the layout strait from 4663:Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new 3569:One of the revamped features we now have is the 3010:label before the news item is posted. Users can 2701:article, and can't see any hint of them meeting 2103:?) gets 144,000. Punkabilly (79,400 G-hits) and 1089:User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory 501:discuss please, will these redlinks rejuvinate? 4849:. We are also in the process of implementing a 3159:Category:Unknown-importance Punk music articles 765:Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents 6877:I wish I could help but camp limits my time -- 5368:I assume he's talking about Richie Detrick of 6270:A summary of the conclusions reached follows. 5424:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Embers (band) 5419:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Lesser of Two 3785:- I had better get free pie for signing this. 3163:{{Wikiproject Punk music|class=|importance=}} 2029:(PROD 21 Sept, exp 26 Sept) --User:Ceyockey ( 872:Neo punk? Come on people. Oh yeah, how about 520:Not really, some users don't have userpages ( 149:Personally I want to devote a lot of time to 5046:This is a notification of the discussion at 2899:Hello, is there any consensus as to whether 7128:Knowledge:WikiProject Punk music/References 1215:harder to source articles about punk things 337:There's been a rash of astroturfing on the 6405:is away right now but should be returning 5687:Knowledge:Notability (music)#Concert tours 5050:regarding the removal of reviews from the 2675:-- again. Yeah, hard to believe I know. 2107:(88,600) are also terms I've heard often. 7781:United Kingdom flag in List of Punk Bands 6488: 6020:The existing article lists Jeff Turner's 5669:incidents that happened on the tour? --- 5202:List of cleanup articles for your project 5042:Removal of reviews from the album infobox 4954:User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3 3442:, one of the Featured Articles I wrote). 3210:Merge the New Wave Wikiproject into this? 1429:User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week 1077:User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory 7547:and draft a new version. We could do it 3874:related to the music, and I created the 2389:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Megabeat 311:Six Feet Ditch is known as Murdercore. 6904:would like to listen to it. ) cheers -- 5802:We would like to ask you to review the 4802:This is a notice to let you know about 4665:WikiProject coordinators' working group 4506:Milestones could include the number of 4278:Save article on punk book from deletion 3665:Category:WikiProject Punk music members 3663:It's also worth noting that there is a 3155:Category:Unassessed Punk music articles 2850:and provide any opinions you may have. 2419:I'd like to make readers aware of this 2361:. I see an article has been started at 1985:(deleted via expired PROD, 30 Aug 2007) 1610:1980 is a poor choice for a cutoff date 1046:Knowledge:WikiProject Council/Directory 709:Looking for the admin in regard to the 525:contributing to wikipedia for a while. 14: 7035:unknown importance punk music articles 6168:I can't see any problems with this. -- 5839:For the Knowledge 1.0 editorial team, 5426:noodle 02:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC) 5231:Watchlisting all unreferenced articles 2772:speed metal? punk rock, hardcore punk 1059:User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2 988:status if not significantly improved. 748:Knowledge:Requests for page protection 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 7431:could do with a bit of updating (see 5589:article and each reviewer calls it a 5520:heavily influenced by at the time).-- 5410:Real punks wanted for AfD discussions 4899:Request this group adopt the article 4390:There's no need for band articles to 3505:Examples of major post-punk artists: 2020:(30 September 2007 – 5 October 2007) 1565:OMFG! Antischism was speedy deleted! 1508:Merging the Street punk page with Oi! 760:Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard 418:This is an encyclopedia you know ;-) 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Punk music 6261:The following discussion is closed. 5685:In my opinion the whole thing fails 5487:here, and earlier parts of Talk Page 4626:. The best way to do this is to add 3644:The following discussion is closed. 3479:Examples of major New Wave artists: 1095:User:Badbilltucker/Science directory 1053:User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 705:Admin, who is the Admin around here? 241:which I've revamped completely now. 25: 7398:back here… (hope you don't mind!) 4514:or articles covered by the project. 3100:Major project revamp: November 2008 2727:User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings 1975:(speedy deleted 20 Sept 2007 under 1243:wasn't deleted, it was merged into 1187:lived, as did Rob Morgan, later of 1071:User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory 1022:Hey all. Been trying to bring the 23: 7866:I've raised a titling question at 5849:Question about article/list format 4711:regarding the lead-in sentence of 4244:by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen ( 3763: 2671:The article is up for deletion at 2415:Punk metal redirect for discussion 2091:used. It gets over 20,000 G-hits. 146:and the first wave from New York. 24: 7907: 7024:WikiProject Punk music/Assessment 5661:Appeal to Reason promotional tour 5048:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Albums 4837:If you are already subscribed to 3019:, posted by <editor/admin: --> 679:Pop Punk Revival Merge Discussion 7885:I will look over some sources -- 7611: 7469: 7307: 7225: 7103:I'd already made it and one for 7022:Hi Grande! Be sure to check out 6640:The discussion above is closed. 6236:He is not in any books I have -- 5481:Richard Manitoba (The Dictators) 4923: 4757:, since it's not very active. -- 4613:Just follow the instructions at 4490: 4161:The discussion above is closed. 2744:; I'm not watching this page. -- 2444: 1806:, for your delectation. I hope! 1249:User:Parsssseltongue/HeartAttaCk 29: 6073:re-direct to "Hardcore Punk". 6055: 4615:Template:Wikiproject Punk music 4011: 4003: 3997: 3356: 3348: 3342: 2935: 2927: 2921: 2882: 2874: 2868: 2829: 2821: 2815: 2534:Have played dates in 2008 (see 2268: 2265: 1753: 1745: 1739: 1599:Agreed, totally ridiculous SD. 1407: 1402: 961: 956: 908:Hi. After taking a look at the 904:WikiProject Punk music proposal 510:any opinions here? discussion? 7059:13:33, 18 September 2011 (UTC) 7031:unassessed punk music articles 6478: 6464: 5844:23:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC) 5293: 5056: 5007:, which describes a single by 4895:} 09:35, 15 March, 2009 (UTC) 4630:to the article in the form of 3819: 2866:Thanks, wasn't aware of that. 2798:deletion discussion. Thanks.-- 2380:Article for deletion: Megabeat 2302:04:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 2289:03:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 2039:01:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC) 1649:now. Contribute if you can! − 1364:22:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC) 470:Template: Punk and punk genres 457:TBP Deletion Review Discussion 13: 1: 7880:23:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC) 7852:20:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC) 7847: 7829:16:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 7811:12:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 7792:05:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 7787: 7776:00:23, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 7771: 7760:18:31, 18 December 2011 (UTC) 7734:14:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC) 7698:16:38, 16 December 2011 (UTC) 7676:18:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 7661:17:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 7656: 7650:09:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 7606:08:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 7587:00:30, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 7582: 7532: 7505: 7488:11:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 7460:10:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 7445:10:01, 20 November 2011 (UTC) 7258:Hi everybody, i've created a 7208: 7163:How about adding that to the 7109: 7070: 7017:12:35, 9 September 2011 (UTC) 6988:01:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC) 6972:04:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC) 6947:04:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC) 6931:04:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC) 6926: 6868: 6856: 6810: 6783: 6750: 6662: 6610:04:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC) 6596:16:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6590: 6583: 6576:14:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6562:12:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6548:08:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6522:05:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6507:04:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6493:04:07, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6458:03:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6453: 6447:02:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6433:01:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC) 6418:03:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC) 6397:22:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6383:21:56, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6369:11:25, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6350:07:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6336:07:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6322:07:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6306:07:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC) 6247:20:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC) 6231:18:29, 12 February 2011 (UTC) 6205:03:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC) 6179:02:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC) 6163:21:00, 22 December 2010 (UTC) 6115:00:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC) 6094:23:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC) 6060:01:38, 26 November 2010 (UTC) 5928:06:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC) 5910:06:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC) 5871:05:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC) 5631:WikiProject Alternative music 5600:WikiProject Alternative music 5476:20:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC) 5298: 5074:09:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC) 5061: 5036:19:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC) 5021:16:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC) 4981:Talk:Rap_rock#Merger_proposal 4932:Tagged it for the project. -- 4863:Knowledge talk:Article alerts 4694:06:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 4649:02:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC) 4601:00:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC) 4583:04:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC) 4568:03:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC) 4521:will do all of the hard work. 4469:19:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC) 4439:11:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC) 4421:11:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC) 4404:11:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC) 4385:12:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC) 4350:20:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC) 4335:11:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC) 4306:08:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC) 4191:21:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 4085:13:29, 29 November 2008 (UTC) 3633:06:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 3615:In case anyone's interested, 3605:02:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC) 3590:22:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC) 2913:02:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC) 2697:Hi all. Just came across the 2523:11:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC) 2494:22:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC) 2450:19:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC) 2407:03:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC) 2375:19:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC) 2353:20:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC) 2329:08:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 2189:04:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC) 2172:04:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC) 2155:07:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC) 2151: 2145: 2138:06:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC) 2134: 2128: 2120:06:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC) 2082:09:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC) 2078: 2072: 1889:03:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC) 1861: 1851: 1590: 1584: 1560:11:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 1546:02:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC) 1521:07:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC) 1463: 1457: 1437:17:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 1413:01:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC) 1305:07:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC) 1291:06:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC) 1287: 1281: 1010:08:14, 6 September 2006 (UTC) 993:11:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC) 967:04:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC) 949:04:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC) 916:. Make sure to check out the 629:Knowledge:WikiProject hip hop 586: 579: 573: 539: 532: 526: 245:I've attempted to expand the 7665:a few lines end with a || -- 7575:List of punk rock bands, 0–K 7562:17:16, 9 December 2011 (UTC) 7537:14:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC) 7526:04:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC) 7510:04:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC) 7414:17:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC) 7370:14:36, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 7344:13:10, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 7330:10:36, 23 October 2011 (UTC) 7298:23:39, 22 October 2011 (UTC) 7275:22:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC) 7213:21:07, 14 October 2011 (UTC) 7192:17:52, 27 October 2011 (UTC) 7177:12:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC) 7159:15:19, 13 October 2011 (UTC) 7141:00:07, 13 October 2011 (UTC) 7114:14:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC) 7099:04:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC) 7075:01:39, 14 October 2011 (UTC) 6849:List of Punk bands revisited 6657:List of punk rock bands, L-Z 6654:List of punk rock bands, 0–K 6189:Category: Oi! musical groups 6036:16:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC) 6015:17:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC) 5999:16:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC) 5402:19:32, 6 February 2010 (UTC) 5360:16:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC) 5343:09:27, 6 February 2010 (UTC) 5311:13:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC) 5276:13:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC) 5245:05:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC) 5220:Incubation|incubation pages" 5146:03:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC) 4545:22:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC) 4272:01:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC) 4235:16:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC) 4207:01:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC) 4157:07:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC) 4018:17:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 3991:16:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 3926:20:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3897:09:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3868:08:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3841:05:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3801:04:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3783:02:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3769:02:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3755:01:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3741:01:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 3722:23:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 3701:23:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 3638:Monthly roll call: Nov. 2008 3560:06:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3466:06:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3452:06:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3433:06:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3417:06:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3393:22:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3363:12:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3324:06:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3302:06:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3283:06:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3235:05:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3205:22:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 3189:{{subst:Punkmusicwelcome-E}} 3090:20:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3067:15:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3043:02:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 3014:news items, but they cannot 2993:02:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 2967:19:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC) 2889:21:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC) 2860:10:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC) 2720:Articles flagged for cleanup 2479:15:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC) 2275:14:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC) 2059:22:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC) 1501:20:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC) 1382:20:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC) 1329:00:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC) 1264:02:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC) 1234:02:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC) 1209:01:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC) 1168:22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC) 1133:00:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC) 1122:21:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC) 1031:14:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC) 7: 7896:05:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC) 7868:Talk:TSOL#TSOL or T.S.O.L.? 6509:(not active, but available) 5834:your WikiProject's feedback 5655:Appeal to Reason Promo tour 5287:or cited achievements. See 5104:21:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC) 4975:Someone tagged the article 4659:Coordinators' working group 4054:) I'm emo, and i don't care 3523:Siouxsie & the Banshees 2942:15:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC) 2836:15:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC) 2808:12:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC) 2439:. Please post your comment 2225:I can definitely vouch for 2220:12:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC) 1856: 1633:12:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC) 1472:Hey thar - cover post-punk 1467:02:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC) 940:15:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC) 894:21:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC) 881:19:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC) 865:23:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC) 851:13:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC) 836:14:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC) 825:19:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC) 779:03:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC) 699:19:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC) 668:14:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC) 659:05:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC) 646:19:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC) 464:14:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC) 106:Knowledge:WikiProject Metal 10: 7912: 7360:I like it! Great stuff. -- 7149:Great idea Guerillero! - 6994:Quality / Importance Scale 6815:14:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC) 6803:02:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC) 6788:15:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC) 6771:01:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC) 6755:00:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC) 6744:00:42, 18 March 2011 (UTC) 6717:01:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC) 6699:20:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC) 6683:19:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC) 6667:19:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC) 5818:Knowledge talk:Version 0.8 5814:articles with cleanup tags 5809:Knowledge talk:Version 0.8 5499:16:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC) 5380:policy you are free to be 5119:Saturday, January 23, 2010 4999:PROD of Pandemonium (song) 4942:19:22, 19 March 2009 (UTC) 4917:17:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC) 4790:03:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC) 4453:Talk:Misfits (band)#Genre? 3621:Featured Article Candidate 3185:{{subst:Punkmusicwelcome}} 2786:14:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC) 2754:18:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC) 2715:09:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC) 2573:00:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC) 2547:17:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC) 1699:18:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC) 1674:11:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC) 1641:Added an article on d.b.s. 1615:today had not yet formed? 1604:03:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC) 1594:08:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 984:, meaning it may lose its 801:17:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC) 719:17:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC) 636:17:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC) 622:17:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC) 608:22:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC) 593:21:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC) 568:21:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC) 522:User:Jeffrey O. 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I am all for it!!! 403:21:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC) 381:20:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC) 372:section. 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