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article is clearly a subset of the other, each exists to serve a different purpose, the bridge is a noteable item in its own right, and so is the railway line which the bridge forms just one part of. I notice there is only one other entry in category railways in denmark. That article is longer, and doesn't discuss technical issues of line voltage or signalling at all. Arguably, the technical details would go into the bridge description, and the railway article would refer here for that detail. On the whole, I dont think either article has enough stuff to warrant consolidating it in just one place. They are fairly short.
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and the tunnel. Also, it would help if someone could insert a reference that states that the official name of the link / connection really is Øresundsförbindelsen. The term was used before and while the bridge was being built, but does anyone use it today? I can't find it on the official web site.
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You are right, but they take the currency anyhow ("Pecunia non olet"). The passage like most of the ferries could be payed in DKK/EUR/SEK. For the swedish part you could be certain that the euro will be on the agenda the next possible timeslot(2012). At least I will ad, tne Link to the prices in
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There are two sets of prices which contradict each other. The table says that a car is 40 euro and further up the article says a car is 36.6 euro. One of those must be out of date. And the upper one isn't as good as a table so the two should jut be combined, once we know which is righ.
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32€ is the Euro price per ride for one or a few crossings. If you travel more often you could buy a 10-ride ticket costing 211€. Or if you travel more often you could get a transponder, then each journey costs 17€. A train ticket costs less, 9€, or a month ticket
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Yes it's true but the name for the bridge is still Øresundsbron. They decided to use the same name in Swedish and Danish. If you look at the homepage you'll see that they use the name Øresundsbron in both the Swedish and the Danish version.
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someone may have found a link saying that the cables passing over the bridge are the only Internet link to Finland, but frankly that's preposterous. The bridge is simply one of many cable routes from Sweden to the rest of Europe.
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it. The only thing that allows the bridge to be closed is bad weather or outright war. What has occurred is that it is proposed to pass a law/decision that allows a quick closing of roads
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