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Arabian city of Medina (where the marriage would have taken place). Al-Bukhari, Muslim, and others have narrated this Hadith through the chain of Hisham from his father Urwah from Aisha. We can consider the possibility that Urwah is the source of the original narration, and then his son Hisham added more details and pushed Aisha's age number lower to 6 and 9. It is possible that Hishām could not remember the true marital age of Aisha due to bad memory in his old age when he was in Iraq. According to a number of muḥaddithūn (traditionists), most notably Ibn Ḥajar (852/1449) and al-Dhahabī (748/1348), Hishām ibn ʿUrwa was not a trustworthy narrator in his old age in Iraq.
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Ethiopia by Abu Bakr. Sahih al-Bukhari 476 also repeats the same thing. Age of intelligence likely means around 10, and this would line up with the other hadiths such as Battle of Uhud. This expedition
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Islamic interpretation – enough that I'm wondering if there aren't reliable sources out there somewhere saying the
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The section about Aisha's age cites multiple independent sources that are not primary. Again, your own personal interpretations are irrelevant, and you have no clue what I can recall. Are you going to propose a change that is supported by citations to reliable scholarly sources, or not? Again, this
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Islamic times (Sahih al-Bukhari 2664) that those under the age of 15 weren't allowed to even be within the presence of the battlefield, yet we see Aisha during Battle of Uhud (where she's either supposedly 11 or 12) serving as a
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This is fake. If you read Sunna you'll find this tradition Arabs had where they started counting their age after puberty(some examples would be like in the Seera where Ali was 10 approximately during hijra which is relatively impossible -because he was close to this age when
Muhammad first got the
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That's because it's fake. If you read Sunna you'll find this tradition Arabs had where they started counting their age after puberty(some examples would be like in the seera where Ali was 10 approximately during hijra which is relatively impossible -because he was close to this age when
Muhammad
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There's also more logical convictions against this; such as Aisha being the height to
Muhammad's shoulders. It should be noted that Muhammad was stated to be the "perfect height," neither too tall or too short. As a result, the fact a 6 year old could achieve anything close to that height is
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revelation-, same goes for a sahabi that said he used to lead prayer when he was 7yo). Another point is the fact that Aisha was 10 years younger than her sister Asma who was 27 during hijra, making Aisha's age 17 at hijra and 18-19 the following year when she consummated the marriage.
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2. Her sister Asmma is 10 years older than Aisha. At the first year oh Hijra, 622 Asmma was 27 years old. It means Aisha was 17-18. One year after Hijra, Aisha and
Mohammed consumed the marriage. It means aisha was 18-19 years
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