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anime from other limited productions, such a APA, is to how the limitation was adapted and taken to the next level as well as the purposeful integration of
Japanese cinematic techniques, such as Kurozawa films (you can see this with Samurai fights and any fight sequence... including Yugioh), Terazuka theater (gay and lesbian characters who cross dress), Noh Theater (the hollow sounds and BG music used in Tenchi are prime example.), movie film shots (such as up shots far away shots, building shots, panning shots, etc. adapted from French and German Film) and other more subtleties like treatment of line. The stylistic differences between American film that are consistent are the use of color (which is viewed differently in Japanese art) and the use of line. (which tends to vary more in thickness than western versions of animation.). The various cheats that Japanese use and how they use them is actually what defines the medium. You can see this extended to even 3D games, and animation that uses 3D.
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characters in it.), conservation of in between shots with keys (called tweening, but I'm not sure how to put that into layman's terms). Anime employs tricks to fool the eye into thinking there is movement. It also likes to use more camera shot work, such as upshots, panning shots, etc that
American animation tends to purposefully avoid. Other things of note are the creator-centric nature of it and the use of pop bands to do opening and closing music, which American animation does not--many of these tricks I've listed are used in very cheap production anime and are looked down upon by American animators as not "proper". (In fact many animation executives I've seen press conferences from call it a fad and not real animation.) Much of the shotwork is borrowed from French and German films as well (though disney had some influence as well). The conventions of storytelling are often borrowed from traditional theater such as Terazuka and Noh.
1595:"Manga! Manga!" by Fredrick Schodt states that anime comes from the french word L'animé, and is *not* a shortened version of the English word Animation. Rather it comes from the french, which has the same latin root word "anima" meaning to move. Fredrick Schodt got this information from Tezuka, who created anime... so I think that's more creditable. It's also notable that "anime" in Japanese sounds a lot like the french word "l'animé" In addition many of the camera angles used in anime are replications or inspired by French films as Tezuka said himself. He said Terazuka, French Film, and German Film had heavy influence on camera work in anime. Also Disney films had a heavy influence on the initial character designs of animation, and less influence on camera angles. I'll correct this if there are no objections with reference. (I'll give til this coming Sunday.) --
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responsible for the recent Anime explosion that has been going on that many mistakenly believe started with
Pokemon. It just hit the mainstream with Pokemon. All these had video releases and spread pretty much word of mouth as they had very little if any television airing. Why leave out these out? Surely wiki authors here know that anime in Japan is not "just for kids" or young adults, despite sex and violence being more accepted in kids shows, but another medium. So why are they left out? I'm not asking for every title to be listed: Battle Angel, Patlabor The Movie, Ninja Scroll, Armitage III, etc... Akira & Ghost in the Shell were very fundamental in the growing acceptance of anime in the US and worldwide. GitS has even influenced the creators of The Matrix movies they admit.
1713:) be added to the 'See Also' links. I ask these things because, being such a large, popular network as it is, I cannot see why a 24/7 anime channel, being the first of its kind, shouldn't be linked and accessible on this page. I've been watching it, and it's been active for 5 years. It's existence alone, is a huge step in the U.S's current state of the reception of anime. So I ask that you please also include a mentioning of Anime Network's 24/7 channel in the 'Current reception in the United States' section. I came to this page looking for a network just for anime, and I was surprised when I had to look elsewhere to find the Anime Network. These few small changes could greatly help those searching around like I did. Thank you.
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Listed here should be the Akiras, the Ghost in the Shells, and the
Vampire Hunter Ds (which I personally didn't care that much for). Just about every video rental place in town had these, but the ones listed..., maybe they were placed in the children's section because they certainly weren't in the "Japanimation" (as it was more often called than "anime" back then) section of our town's video stores. I'm still waiting on the "Little Boy" book, btw. But have picked up other books and they all seem to note Akira's significance. Just no stats of sales, which would a piss poor way to measure the significance of something. Akira did not do very well in its native Japan, but was huge throughout the rest of the world.
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Joe and Hajime no Ippo were about boxing. Hanaukyo Maid Team is based on the French maid fantasy." Any medium contains lots of very narrowly constructed genre, I could break out all sorts of things. For example, mythology-based Anime is a narrow cross-genre whether its straight fantasy like
Inuyasha or SF post-apocalyptic like Gilgamesh but there is no need to mention this as a fact. Also, its not the case that the examples mentioned were written for a very specific audience (only hard-core boxing-lovers for example); they just fit into very narrowly constructed genre. It would be interesting if there were lots of anime catering to a very, very, niche audience, but I don't think thats the case.
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animation from Japan. Lastly, that Akira is primarily responsible for making anime a world-wide phenomena is also not mere opinion. That is widely understood. Read any book published in
English on anime and I doubt if this last point would not be mentioned. An interesting book on anime and its historical/sociological impact is the art book put together by Takashi Murakami titled "Little Boy: The Arts of Japan's Exploding Subculture". If one doubts the worldwide impact of Akira, one could read the several essays by multiple artists in this book which is written simultaneously in English and Japanese on the same page. A truly fascinating read even if you do not agree with me on this page.
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to reference that since it's first hand knowledge. A Japanese studio also works on a tighter budget. To a
Japanese studio (when I was in between an animator and a Japanese studio) the amount of money an American production spends they only dream of.. and this is a high-end studio (deleting name om me if you are dying to know.), who makes clean and high-end productions. 100 people on a crew to Japanese is unheard of and highly wasteful. Many people multi-task. (Directors will draw, whereas an American director will not.) That's what defines anime as a medium of expression. Not big eyes, or high voices, but how it's produced and the end result.--
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didn’t have links, for example, Ranma ½ now has a link, and Wicked City now directs you to the correct page. I organized genres by type so that it doesn't look like a complete mess. I cleaned up the style of definitions, so that they now all start with capitalization, end with punctuation, have uniform spacing, and refer to examples in a similar manner. I also added post-apocalyptic genre and split Yaoi from
Shounen-Ai. Yuri and Shoujo-Ai are not different enough to warrant separate categories (they don’t even have different wikipedia pages).
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But my main point is that Akira & GitS were THE two that really got the ball rolling on 'cartoons from Japan' i.e. anime in the States and subsequently hit mainstream with
Pokemon. At this point everybody knew it (Pokemon) was from Japan. That may be a result of a more general 'things from Japan are cool' and/or the video game, but the fact of the matter is, the 'early' anime in the US, as listed in the article so far, were viewed as just another cartoon outside of small populations with connections to Japan.
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alone, especially for the US, isn't it? 2 channels, 2 links...for just the US. Shouldn't there be a mention in that section for just those two channels? Isn't that fair since it is valid information, stating a fact, and not just stating examples even if there are only 2 current 24/7 US channels for examples? I mean, 2 channels cannot possibly be considered a US anime channel directory, can they? I apologize for taking up your time like this, and restating things. Heh, thank you, again.
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first came out. I understand the term "anime" (in the States) originating around the of Akira, GitS, et al. If we use the term "anime" as it is used outside Japan, Akira & GitS, specifically the former, really made
Japanese animation, anime, into a world-wide phenomenon and most definately marking points in the history of the medium. Therefore, I believe, this chunk of "early anime in the US", as I believe I tried to give some further definition to above, is noteworthy.
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fans. The reason I wish we could get this is in the States it seems some people (actually a lot, too many)(in the US) despise the animation medium as children's stuff. But then again, those people I meet (US people) aren't really the types to be into foreign films either. Also, 60% of all books and magazines sold in Japan are comic books, aka manga, according to Murakami in a book he edited "Little Boy". What are the figures for animated programs, movies, etc...?
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have become source material for recent anime shows, and I'll emphasize that this is a very recent trend. And it comes from major light novel publishers like Kadokawa Shoten financing the production of anime shows based on their light novel titles so as to promote the sales of books and related merchandise. You should look at who's putting up the money to get shows made before you start speculating about influences.--
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extent with Anon's argument, because "anime" really does simply mean animation, I am against the removal of the article. Instead I just make sure I tell people what the word "anime" really means, but at the same time let people know that from my point of view, animation in Japan is merely another medium and does not have the same connotation as being "merely" a "kids medium" as it does in the United States.
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it "more Korean" and "less Japanese" because by that logic then American animation should look exactly the same as the Japanese and then when they move to China, it should look exactly the same. Thus it's where the animation is produced, the story lines are made, and who controls the project that makes it of that country. Doggy Poo is a Korean Animation...--
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weeks, but I am sure every book on the topic would note its significance. Unless you've come into anime in the later 90s, it is difficult for me to understand how this has been passed up. I only own the dvd and two issues of the Akira manga, so I'd hardly call myself a crazed fan. Crazed and a fan perhaps, but not a crazed fan.
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worth watching (or following up on), will not be aware of the existence of such a page. It should be listed in the "lists" section at the end of the "anime" entry (it is a "list", isn't it?). Of course, such a page should be based on appropriate references (critical acclaim, popularity polls, etc.), but
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This should get the article up to code. I'll play with an overhaul wherein I add references... Then we can delete the references section, and then the notes section can become references... and then add a See Also, like which already lists this article. Then we can try to renominate this article for
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Along with Anime Network, the only other channel network is Funimation. Wouldn't it be possible to link to these 2, since they are the only anime channels? Especially since Anime network was the first in the US ever? Shouldn't that, at least, be accessible information? Especially under something like
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I cleaned up the genre section. I didn't delete anything (well, only one thing), but did a major overhaul. I cleaned up language and grammar. I removed the overly complicated explanation of Ecchi and instead pointed the reader to the main article for more information. I added links to examples that
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You are probably right. I was just surprised there was such a gap in the history and I truly believe anime would not be as big as it is today (in the States) were it not for the likes of Akira and GitS (and specifically those two). My opinion perhaps, but oh well. I can be one of those cranky old men
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I know for a fact this is false. The person using the VeriGGlater signature is did not use someone else's user name and is not pretending to be someone else. The above comment is simply untrue. Mere observation shows that a user name is not registered to someone else because the name appears in red
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Yeah, there's plenty to object to that. I don't know how long you've been following anime, but anime's hardly been influenced by light novels. If anything, light novel authors have grown up watching anime, but there's hardly any anime creator who's grown up reading light novels. At most, light novels
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I should also note that production sizes of Japanese studios are greatly smaller. While an American Studio can have 3 teams per productions, 3 directors, Anime usually only has one director for the entire series, and one character designer. (an American team can have 3 or more. ^^;; I don't know how
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What Anime is and does is use the rules of limited animation. That is cheats to make things appear they are moving more than they are. Even high tech anime such as Miyazaki productions still use principles of limited animation (Back of heads shots when talking... for example.). However, what classes
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Animation or cartoons from Japan are actually a world wide phenomena. They are not unique to the US or English speaking world. Visit some Japan oriented online forums sometime and you will find this to be true even if you have been aware of anime for years but still doubt this. While I agree to some
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What does define anime is the way that it conserves and uses framework. (However this is a bit animation technical). This can be the use of detailed backgrounds, serialized stories, the use of stock animation, the use of static shots (back of head shots, quiet moments, a shot of a background with no
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I think some titles under genres shouldn't be labled as that certain genre. For example, MeruPuri is under hentai....I do not think it's a hentai, and if it where a hentai, why would viz media be advertising it in mangas (or shojo beat magazine) if they are usually rated T for teen or older teen? If
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I think it is time that the terminology section be given a though review with terms either being removed, moved to the See Also section, or integrated into the artical text. I have already done some moving around, editing, and removed some of the terms that do appear in the artical text, but some of
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But the ones mention by the article were on television (in the States anyway) as 'regular' cartoons. It was not until the 90s that anime started to be released as 'cartoons from Japan' AND with options of the original language with subtitles. Thus the realization that these cartoons came from Japan.
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Under this heading I was expecting to find Akira and Ghost in the Shell at least, maybe even Ranma 1/2, Tenchi Muyo, or Vampire Hunter D. (No, I'm not an obsessed bitter fan of all these) The first two specifically, and others released in the States by Manga, Pioneer Video, ADV, etc. are primarily
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I remember seeing a list of notable anime a few months back that had all of the most popular anime arranged by genre. I thought that that was a really good and effective way of presenting it, as well as something I've never seen before on any other anime site. I was thinking that this could be taken
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I don't really see the need to explain that manga is the japanese word for comic in the anime article, and this way you can also add in another major print media influence, light novels without the sentence sounding weird. Could probably go even a bit further and say it's not only influenced by, but
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WHAT are the category pages? (I ask because this is the second time someone has mentioned the location of the notable list as being here.) There is no hyperlink from the main anime page from named "category." If I can't find any such page, then a casual reader, who may be interested in finding anime
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1538, "to fill with boldness or courage,"from L. animatus pp. of animare "give breath to," from anima "life, breath" (see animus). The adj. meaning "alive" is from 1605. Animated "full of activity" is from 1585. In ref. to "moving pictures" it dates from 1895; animation in the cinematographic sense
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Please sign your posts. South Koreans don't call Korean animation Anime. A New Type Magazine had a Korean editor object to the usage of the term "anime" toward Korean animation. Rather there is a Korean word for it. While Japanese animation is often shipped to Korea to make it move, it doesn't make
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This line at the very end of the Genre section mentions a trivial fact true of any medium and should be erased: "Some anime titles are written for a very specific audience, even narrower than those described above. For example, Initial D and éX-Driver concern street racing and car tuning. Ashita No
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I suppose, right? How hard could it be to find such a source? Just about every person from Japan that I've ever met has all but acknowledged this in writing (I'm talking from the mid-90s on mostly, but some post Pokemon period as well) and none of them necessarily consider themselves Otaku or big
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I disagree, the section with the genres is relevant to the overall introduction to the subject of anime and the genres that are listed should be unique to anime as a style of animation. I have gone ahead and removed MeruPuri (perhaps the original editor was thinking of something else?) and the rest
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and the seem to all be rather obscure titles. I do not understand why Akira and GitS are not mentioned here? They are not any more risque than uncensored versions of other titles mentioned in the article. Not that that would/should be a factor since animation in Japan, anime, is not "just for kids"
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Probably because they weren't "early". None of those were released in the States until 1990 or so, and there are many, many series which were released in the States before that: Speed Racer, Astro Boy, Gigantor, Star Blazers, Voltron, and so on. The ones you mention were not even close to the early
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The next couple of sentences should explain that. Apparently, the meaning of "anime" is dependent on who you talk to. To the Japanese, "anime" means everything animated - which includes things like the Simpsons. The differentiation between "anime" and "cartoon" only exists in the West, particularly
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Why do I want this article to be removed? Because this is NOT a foreign dictionary, it's an encyclopedia. Anime is just the japanese word for animation, it's not a genre and "anime-style" is not an adjective. Sure, I understand that foreign words commonly develope into slang, which later on can be
1961:
As for competition-based anime (which is really not a recognized genre of anime since it encompasses things like Japan! which is a cooking anime, which has it's own genre.) And I wouldn't call Yugioh non-violent. Competitions happened in Dragonball Z as well. Competitions have happened in Martial
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2.at the styles section: Isn't there a style that has all competition based animes included? I mean animation productions like: Yu Gi Oh!(all of the versions), duelmasters, Oban star racers and many others. They all have this one common characteristic: they have one character that participates in
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Anime is not only made up of big eyes... there are plenty of anime which are defined by smaller eyes, such as the body of Miyazaki's work, many Josei anime (Harikari Man, Suppli, Kimi wa Petto etc), and many anime aimed at an older market. In fact the anime with the largest eyes tend to be shoujo
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Your reference betrays you, since it says that shorts were the first thing produced at that time... what Tezuka did create was the sense of camera angles. He admired the feature-length animation. Where does American animation and Anime deviate to define these types of animation? Besides, the main
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South Korea makes anime, like Bastof Syndrom. But do they CALL it anime? They make manga but call it Manhwa, so anime might have a different name too. But since there's scrace to no difference between manhwa & manga & language-daft people can't tell Bastof isn't Japanese, it's safe to say
1512:, the non-"microseries" of the two produced. But "anime" is a Japanese word borrowed from English and then shortened as is common in the language, and means all "animation" anyway. So it always never meant only "cartoons or animation from Japan". Well, until people in the US re-borrowed the word.
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Please, can someone add the "gourmet" category of manga/anime to the list of genres, and also create a separate article on it? I am told there are many examples of this category, but since I don't speak Japanese I can't find out very much about it. Maybe you can look at this Japanese page to help
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The article notes, and then lists a whole slew of little known titles(in the US at least). (I know that just because I've never heard of any of them doesn't mean they are unknown. Others such as Atom and the White Lion many have heard of, the one's listed, I'm not sure I can find many who have).
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The first sentence :The history of anime begins at the start of the 20th century, when Japanese filmmakers experimented with the animation techniques that were being explored in France, Germany, the United States, and Russia. As well as other statements attesting to the origin and development of
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Admittedly there are some opinions in my above post on this talk page. But one cannot deny that the word anime did not enter US vernacular until Akira, GitS era, early to mid-90s. This is also the time that anime started to be released in the US with original voices/subtitled making it notably
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Likewise the use of the term "anime" outside Japan was not used except for relatively small populations with Japan connections. Maybe I have a US centric point of view on this and maybe Speed Racer, Astro Boy, etc. in say, Turkey, were called anime when (if) they were aired around the time they
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I must say that I also found the page of notable anime useful (in the extreme, actually). Although it is contentious by nature, I think that it should be recreated, albeit under a different title (critically acclaimed anime). Entries included should, of course, provide sources. Just becuase it's
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I understand. Forget the links for 'see also' and 'external links.' It just wouldn't be fair, and I see why... What about Current US reception? Just considering a US viewpoint, those are still the only channels...And Anime Network was the first 24/7 anime channel in the US. That was a huge step
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I am really surprised that Akira was not mentioned in the article. I'll scour all the books on anime at the public and college libraries in town and get the "Little Boy" book through interlibrary loan (a library in the neighboring county has a copy of it) so it may take a while - give me three
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I find this to be rather dubious. The French "animé" just means "animated" (dessins animé "animated drawings" is what cartoons are called, for example.) "animer" is the verb "to animate". "l'animé" doesn't make sense. Why would you put an article before the participle? Also, you'd better start
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Please sign your posts. There are exceptions to Anime being 2D, such as Zoids, and also many games have anime. For example there was a 3D Sailor Moon game for dreamcast. Computer 3D has also been used in the rendering of 2D productions such as Heat Guy J. (In the US it's used for South
107:"Due to linguistics, the anime definition is subject to interpretation" is written under the definition. According to Wikiepedia "Linguistics is the scientific study of language". So what the hell does "Due to linguistics, the anime definition is subject to interpretation" mean?
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issue was etymology... since the reference I dug up was printed by Kodansha I think it's better reference than none and some American's assumption about the Etymology because they are American-centric. Whereas anime had many influences besides America. Sign your posts please. --
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Do you people think that we could protect this page from people who don't log in? This page is vandalized a LOT, and I almost always by people who don't log in. In light of this, I think it would be good if we protected the page from those who didn't log in. What do you think?
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I learnt more about anime from your reply than from the whole article (or from any essay I've ever read about anime!) Thank you. It would be good to integrate it into the main article for the benefit of everybody, although I understand most of it is first-hand experience.
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Oh, I wasn't saying that our word "animate" doesn't derive from "anima", but that it does in a far more obtuse way than is actually necessary to talk about. But I can live with the way it is at the moment :P Except that anima isn't a Latin verb, so I'll change to animare
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reasons), but shouldn't it say something like "A typical anime features ..."? (I'm not sure how to phrase it myself.) This would make the image's presence in the article more relevant, as it would illustrate the notable stylistic features mentioned in the image caption.
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Loveless is given as an example of yaoi in the "Anime" article. But in the Loveless article it is called shonen-ai. (which is better) Yaoi is much more sexual in nature, and though Loveless has some gender-bending/boylove themes, I don't think it can be considered yaoi.
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Even if one were to take into consideration that another culture, in this case Japan, is not as uptight over something like human nudity, i.e. has slightly different standards of what is "ok" to show kids, something like the Patlabor movies are hardly aimed at a child
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Hmm, perhaps I am a part of this so-called "small populations with connections to Japan" that I speak and used the term "anime" before it hit mainstream at the time of Pokemon, Sailor Moon, etc. The point on Akira & GitS though, is hardly an opinion. They should
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Maybe we shouldn't have a list of genres on the page at all. We certainly don't need examples of each genre since the pages they are linking to should be giving that sort of information. Perhaps that, in addtition to the above, also needs to be removed and the
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Why not have a similar list of notable anime per genre, but also have it arranged by release date? Not only that, but let there be an "expand option" that lists not only the most popular anime, but all anime of that genre. I think that would be very very cool.
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Well I once read on the MeruPuri article that it shows shots of a character kind of naked or something like that, I don't think just because of the it is a hentai, (I mean, watch DBZ), But they probably thought 'cuz of that. P.S. I'm syarasu, I forgot to log
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to block anonymous edits. Be warned, however, if this article experiences anonymous vandal edits at a rate of only one per day, that is often deemed below whatever arbitrary threshold exists for semi-protection. It depends on which admin reviews the request.
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Arts anime, Role Playing Anime, and sometimes Episode of the Week in various anime. (Like the classic have-to-insert Sport competition.) Or even Sports Anime, like Touch, which while is technically baseball anime, it doesn't really have much competition.
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What exactly do you mean by the term "gourmet" though? As far as I know I have never heard of it as an actual genera, but usually only in the context of "must see", "classic", or "top shelf" anime. Which isn't so much a genera as it is a review rating.
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This passage is pretty much referring to "Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z", and I would like to link it to the relevant article. I tried to do it myself but I could not get the coding to work correctly, what with the spaces in the article title and all.
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Its in the history section, the first part where it says, "The history of anime begins at the start of the 20th century, when Yamamoto experimented with the animation techniques that were being explored in France, Germany, United States and Russia"
2063:"Both the words "animation" and "l'animé" come from the Latin word "anima" which means to move." There's a source for it, so I can only presume the source didn't know what it was talking about. The Latin anima means soul or spirit, as both
1674:アニメ might come from the French "l'animé" (dubious, but possible) or be an abbreviation of the English word "animation" (more probable, as nearly all Japanese loan words are abbreviations of English words.) But the longer word アニメーション (
2022:{{cite book |last=Baricordi |first=Andrea |coauthors=Claude Pelletier |title=Anime: A Guide to Japanese Animation |publisher= Protoculture |date=2000, 1958–1988|location =Montreal, Canada |isbn=ISBN 2-9805759-0-9 }}</ref: -->
2030:{{cite book |last=Schodt |first=Frederik L. | title=Manga! Manga!: The World of Japanese Comics |publisher=] International |date=Reprint edition (August 18, 1997) |location =ToKyo, Japan |isbn=ISBN 0-87011-752-1 }}</ref: -->
1835:--;; I'm sure some of this can be found through references... I got some of this information from an animator I know... alot of it can be found in the book references listed which should be incorporated into the article anyway. --
479:...Because it sure does not look like it. At all. The whole article is a gaudy praise of japanese animation, with no mention whatsoever of the criticisms that are commonly levied at it on message boards or blogs all over the net.
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Yes. The anon's arguments would apply equally well for deleting the articles on, say, Impressionisms or the Renaissance. After all, they're just some foreign dictionary words for some French and Italian paintings and statues.
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In short, the language interpretation of the word differs. Furthermore, the meaning even gets more confusing when "cartoons" start mimicking things done in "anime". Several articles already exist addressing that confusion.
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15:34, 3 Febuary 2007 (UTC) I would like to note that I hope this does not sound like I'm saying, "I was here before and therefore you must just not get it." I did not intend to mean this. I am not a proponent of ageism.
1218:, which I've not yet been able to delve into yet. But this might fit in this genre. And according to the wiki link it is 90 issues long. If each volume is regular book size like my issue is, it must be a long story.
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Anime. Even high-class productions of anime still use the rules of limited animation to make the work flow. If you look up limited animation you'll see a lot of the same tricks employed, but Anime taking them further.
2006:{{cite book |last=Clements |first=Jonathan |coauthors=Helen McCarthy | title=The Anime Encyclopedia |publisher=Stone Bridge Press |date=2001 | location=Berkeley, California |isbn=ISBN 1-880656-64-7 }}</ref: -->
1682:) is clearly the translitteration of English "animation", so the current phrasing of the article is wrong: «The Japanese term for animation is アニメーション It is borrowed from the French word for animation, "l'animé."» --
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Despite the failure of Akira in Japan, it brought with it a much larger international fan base for anime. When shown overseas the film was a cult hit that would eventually become a symbol of the medium for the
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One Piece isn't an anime that was edited heavly because of what year it came to America. It was edited because of 4Kids entertainment intent to use it as a child's show. 4Kids has never used a "light touch".
2026:{{cite book |last=Schodt |first=Frederik L. | title=Dreamland Japan: Writings on Modern Manga |publisher=Stone Bridge Press |date=1996 |location=Berkeley, California |isbn=1-8806562-3-X }}</ref: -->
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through the back door. On top of that, an anime wouldn't have an article in the first place if it wasn't notable. And lastly, what genre an anime is in can be a very contentious issue which often leads to
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I don't think a gourmet anime article needs to be created or added to this article for the same reason that pirate anime should not be created, or even ninja anime. They are sub-types of general genres.
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found in most dictionaries, but this is ridiculous. If we use anime as a word for japanese animated film, then why not use animação as a word for portuguese animated film? You get my point, hopefully.
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MeruPuri is not a hentai! A hentai is Hardcore Anime Pornography! Not i have never seen this anime but from what i can tell it is not even a ecchi! so who told you that MeruPuri was a hentai?--
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