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firing spreads out in front of the muzzle in the same way as the shotgun does. Case shot on the other hand is a shell of iron with spheres inside plus a bursting charge. This is a significant difference. Canister cannot be used with own troops in front - case (or
Shrapnel shells) remain solid until the fuze ignites at a predetermined time.
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British artillery at the time of the Napoleonic wars, where all these terms came together. I think it needs several good illustrations along the lines of “all four of these are case shot“, “these three are canister shot”, “ this one is
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I am not a contributor to Wiki but as an ex gunner (red-leg), may I note the difference between "canister" and "case". The former is similar to a shotgun shell - a series of spheres contained within a light cover. This allows the simple storage, carriage and then loading of the projectile which on
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Unfortunately, the article’s attempt to explain it introduces more confusion. The parting shot of this article—sorry about the inevitable pun—is that “…the term case shot is also used to describe a hollow ball containing a powder charge and bullets. After firing the iron ball the powder would
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They definitely are two different things. Canister is the short-range, shotgun-like round (can filled with balls) while case hot is shrapnel being a shell filled with powder and balls as opposed to regular shell rounds without balls inside.
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I came to the article hoping to find information about the angle of spread of canister shot. Does the canister disintegrate in the barrel, so that the shot spreads from the muzzle, or is it constrained by the canister for some distance?
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Wasn't "sangrenel" a common 18th and 19th century term for improvised canister shot, often made using nails, stones, or whatever bits of scrap metal were available, to be fired from a smoothbore muzzleloading artillery piece?
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However, just before that the reader was told that "spherical case shot" (shrapnel) carried “a small powder charge to break open the case and disperse the shrapnel.” Do both statements refer to spherical case
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The article starts off saying that canister and case are different, but often confused, and then at the end confuses them and says they are names for the same thing!
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The answer, according to experimental data on other sites, seems to be a spread of 1:10, or about 6°, but I don't have a reliable source to insert it in the article.
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My offer is to say “case shot is the more general term. All canister is case shot but not all case shot is canister”.
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