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where many of the included items are not real, not scripts or non-notable. But I don't see you complain there. By the way, a big risk of deleting an overarching article is that the entire history of article itself and the associated talk page disappear, and I believe that quite a few of the articles
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This article is worthless as others have pointed out. There are no references to actual peer reviewed journals or articles likely because this distinction between "natural" and "artificial" scripts is arbitrary. Aside from the 3 or four inventions of writing, I doubt any commonly used scripts today
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Artifical is a bad word to use here. It's prejudicial; to say that one thing is "natural" and another "artifical" is usually to give preference to the first. It's not really accurate; writing is something that distinguishes us from the animals, and hence all writing is artifical. Even in the sense
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Chinese logosyllabary evolved in a largely organic and gradual way, rather than being intentionally designed as a complete writing system in a short period of time.’
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That this article needs some work is clear, but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. And not everything that doesn't have a clear-cut definition is non-notable. Looking online, there seems to be sufficient published material on the
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