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Romania most probably has been too. Also remember when Darius went to fight with the
Scythians (Iranians) he crossed Danube (the border between the contemporary Bulgaria and Romania), while if there were no Scythians (Iranians) in Romania, then he could attack the scythians Via Central Asia or the Caucasus! He also pointed to some artifacts of Dacians which resembled those of Scythians. Anyway. Another people who you should not forget are the Jaszy of Hungary. As the name suggests they are releated to the Ossetians. In fact they are Alans who entered this region (Central Hungary). They have already forgotten their language but are still or (were for a long time) aware of their ethnicity. It is debated whether or not Armenians are Iranians. The Armenian language is very close to the Iranian languages. Things are similar which could not be said that they are taken over from (other) Iranian languages. Most probably Armenian is a separate branch of the Iranian languages (next to the west eg. persian, Kurdish etc... and East eg. Ossetian, Pamir etc...). Addinf to that the Armenian aristocracy and kings have been of parthian origins. So You can consider them as Iranian peoples or not. Most Armenians however do not like to be related to Iranians and a lot I have encountered are very hostile to Iranians. The main reason is the religiosu difference, not knowing that Ossetians (who do not deny their Iranianness)are also Orthodox Christians. Having said this Georgians who are a Kartvelian people have assimilated many ossetians (Alans) in them. Moreover the georgian ancient kings and aristocracy have been of Parthian origins too. So maybe you can only mention this without listing it.
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This article is not about a race or a country, it's about a culture, which still exists among central Asians, Iraqis and
Turkish people. So I suggest for it title to be changed to "Iranian Cultural Continent" as some have already suggested. 2) Many people here are not aware of the distinction between "Persian People" and "Iranian People". And many many others are not aware of the difference between being among the "Iranian People" and practicing "Iranian Culture"-al elements. As an example, kurds are an Iranian People, so anything identified with them, is directly an aspect of the Iranian culture. On the other hand, the very many concepts in the Turkish or central asian music are originally Iranian, although those who use them today are not. That's the definition of the Iranian Cultural Continent. 3) Intellectuals in arab, turkish and afghan societies tend to downplay the influence of Iranian culture and completely dismiss it's importance. I think that it's best exhibited among Turks, which are champions in forgetting their past and overstating their turkish heritage. They deny their mostly anatolian ancestry, they deny the great number of Iranian people living within their territory, the influence of Persian on their language, and anybody who knows how they take care of monuments and archeological sites knows that Greek, Byzantines, Phrygian, Persian and Armenian sites receive less care than their Ottoman counterparts (regardless of how ancient they are). This goes to the extremes, one account being the recent dam constructions in Turkey which virtually made great sites inaccessible forever.
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any land touched by German feet or influenced in any way by German culture was a part of "Greater
Germany", to be reclaimed and ruled by Germans for Germans. Other examples that have created wars and political/economic/social unrest are "Greater Russia", "Greater Serbia", I also find it interesting that an article on the distribution of Iranian culture uses the later Persian language with Arabic text as the visual representation of a langauage imported into the area now called Iran by the Sassanid Persians and heavily impacted over time by Turkish and Arabic influences. Of course, Iran should really be part of a "Greater Arabia" given that the surge of Arab tribes in the "Great Jihad" destroyed the Sassanid Empire and converted the area to a non-Iranian religion, Islam, which uses Arabic langauge and text as its ecumenical device for communicating the word of God (Allah). The idea that there is a single continuous cultural, political and social heritage between the Persia of Darius and Xerxes and the Parthians and the Sassanid Persians and the Islamic caliphates ruled from Quom and Teheran is as ridiculous as the parade of the "Persian Army" put on by the Shah back in the 1970s.
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non-Arab peoples who do not understand each other properly and moreover they are in value cultural terms very different. A lebanse or
Egyptian is culturally too different from a Qatari or Saudi. 3- Turkish/ic world. This term is promoted by Anti-Iranianist agents. However it is true that there are a variety of Turkicspeaking people in the region, they nevertheless try to bring all these under the influence of turkey (whcih should be ruled by extremist elements). These Turkic peoples have not been part of the Ottoman empire however. Moreover Turkey and Iran are not antagonistic countries. They share a similar culture and are in friendly terms. Another fact is that the Turkic peoples who share cultural similarities, they do it also with non-Turkicspeaking Iranic people. Those Turkic peoples who did not come close to the Iranic people are distinct (Yakut, Chuvash etc...).
4130:, You stop it and please be polite. My name is not Pejman Akbarzadeh but I know RZ team. As far as I know none of us has been discriminated in the Netherlands. It's a quite safe and nice country for foreigner. Please stop accusing and insulting people and countries. I did not Vandaliza Iran-related articles. It seems you have a personal problem with the name "Persia". yes, "Iran" has been the name of this country since Sassian era in "certain" historical periods. I really advise you to study the history of the name in Mohammad Ajam's book which has been recently published in Tehran. Meanwhile we are now in Knowledge ENGLISH section. In Western languages it has been Persia since 6th century BC until 1935 officially and still is popular in some contexts. Please accept the historical facts instead of writing such notes for active users. --
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generally believed to be part of the
Elamian kingdom. The mis-usage of persia instead of iran stems from the fact that the capital of Iran during Achamenid was in Perisa (Ostan-e Fars), and according to the Greek historical tradition of city -states the name of a capital was given to the surrounding areas. So the fact that the capital was called Parse-kade (persepolis) (Takhte Jamshid is only the popular belives), then the whole empire was called as such. Then the Arabs and Westneres adpated the same reason. TRhe Old testament of Bible has used Median/Persian interchangeably and the Iranians themselves have always used Iran (and not persia or any other names) for this country.
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substantially larger than the territory the empire usually held and the maximum was only obtained for about 20 years in the middle of a war. So it's a poor indication of where
Iranian cultural influence is strong. I'm not saying it is necessarily inappropriate to show the empires at their peak, just that it should be clearly indicated that that is what is being done. This might offset some of the other criticisms of the page in the talk section that the page is an Iranian nationalistic project. That said, I'm reluctant to make the changes myself for fear of setting off an edit war (28 Nov 2017).
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learn to live in the present and not the past. "Greater Iran" should be changed to "Greater Persia". Afghanistan and Iran have the same language, there is only a few minor differences between the dialects. I'd wager most people who are fluent in farsi can understand the afghani dialects. Fighting over who won wars and who is the older nation is pointless and childish. A civilization thats 100,000 years old is not necessarily superior to one who is 50,000 years old and debating superiority is also counter-productive - Knowledge is not a place to rant about how great your ancestors are.
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careful as to what meaning of Persia/Persian is meant. Sometimes it specifically talks about
Persians (as opposed to Mededs, for example, or Azaris, in modern times), and sometimes it is just a sloppy substitution for the term Iran/Iranian which includes all of these people. In that sense, many times you see the word Persian in a situation where actually Kurds and Lurs and the others are included. It might be considered a misnoming, but it is still common practice. Unfortunately things are usually not very standardized.
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Turkey, and settled the modern boundary along the Aras River." Can someone explain to me why it is necessary to mention the "Caucasian provinces" collectively AND "Armenia, Azerbaijan and minor parts of
Eastern Turkey" individually? Aren't those last three included in the Caucasus? The phrase "which had made part of its concept for centuries" is rather poorly worded, I am not sure what point is trying to be made here. --
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2814:" (can't read the doted word or two. Part of the text cleverly covered by the bright colour as it was not helping Zereshk's argument. This text proves that the name Iran was not used to designate a real country or empire before at the time Achaemenians. Now regarding the Sasanians this text is an evidence that the term Iran , same as Persian, is a Greek (3rd century BC) term "
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territories did exist, these were brief, and those regions are not traditionally included in
Greater Iran (e.g. one will not find studies on them in the Cambridge History of Iran beyond issues of government). To include Iraq and Armenia in Greater Iran just because those regions were briefly ruled by Iranians is like including Iran in the
2213:. That is not what greater Iran means. Here we have countries that were never part of Iran/greater Iran; rather they were occupied by the Iranian army. I think the map gives the wrong idea. It might make some readers think that by Greater Iran we simply mean the land that were once under the rule of Iranian leaders. I suggest removing it.
3228:, such as on the english wikipedia, there's nothing wrong with using the terms interchangably, since it is how the country was called until recently. Similarly, there's nothing wrong with saying Japan or Finland or Greece or Germany or China, even though none of these names are in fact used by the inhabitants of those countries.
2285:(mid 1940s). This was natural extension of Nazi ideology that caused abdication of the Reza Shah, following his support for Nazi Germany. Non of authoritative sources would entertain this idea as a serious subject. Till 14th century there was no real country or region called Iran. The name Iran was mentioned in Persian epic of
2344:, which explains clearly why Reza Shah's government became close with Nazi Germany (trade-wise, Iran remained neutral when WW2 broke out). It also has some interesting accounts of how Reza Shah's government, along with the Persian Jewish community in Paris, helped save French Jews from being sent to the gas chambers.
4831:...So how does Iranian influence give it ownership of Georgia as part of the Iranian world, particularly when they are so many other powers that had comparable influence? Why "Greater Iran" and not "Greater Turkey" or "Greater Greece"? After all, cities on the entire coast of Western Georgia were founded as
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the reader who was searching for that term? I believe I know the reason: that there are no sources which discuss the term except the ones I have provided. None say "Greater Persia" ≠ "Greater Iran", and the ones I supplied use the terms interchangeably. So, in the absence of a good, solid definition from
4800:, "Greater Turkey", "Greater Mongolia", or any other type of neo-imperialistic construct one may think of. Georgia shares no language, no religion and no ethnic ties with Iran. The only reason there are even Georgians living in Iran is because they were moved there by brutal Iranian rulers as part of an
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What I am saying is that "Greater Iran", as this article is written, has a connotation of the type of ethno-cultural, linguistic and historical ownership that in this case simply does not exist. Whatever influence Iran exerted over
Georgia in the times of its vassalage does not make the country part
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As far as it has been mentioned in all encyclopedias and historical/geographical documents, in Western languages, Iran was called "Persia" since 6th century BC until 1935. This article also is an "English" article. Yes in Sassanian period, the name "Iran" was appeared in the texts, but in the Persian
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And yet, you are willing to take these supposedly SYNTHETIC and UNRELIABLE sources and put them in the article? Very odd. Why would the article and the lead section be held to different standards? More to the point, why have you not found a source that defines "Greater Persia" in a way that satisfies
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Please pay attention that due to historical reasons, what we (within the country) call Iran, has been in the west referred to as Persia for a very long time, and likewise the people were mistakenly called Persian, where in fact Iranian was meant. In reading books by western authors one has to be very
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So Heja, do you honestly expect me to believe you that you dont hate Persians? You very well know that every mosque in Samarqand and Bukhara has a Persian name and is adorned with Persian poetry. Im sure you know that Rudaki and numerous other poets were from what is today called Uzbekistan. And that
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Dude, I dont know about China but go look at a geological map of Pakistan and you'll see that half the country lies on the Iranian plateau. The country spoke Persian as recently as the 19th century before the British abolished it and encouraged the spread of non-iranian culture. The country also has
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The term, "Greater Iran" has always been recognized and respected by scholars and historians. Greater Iran is the area where the Persian culture to this day still dominates. This article must be kept intact and expanded on. As it is a different issue than "Iranian Langauges" this article must remain.
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Equating Iran's millenia old ties (historical/cultural/ethnical) with Georgia with that of the Mongols' (or Khazars', etc) mass destruction and 0.0% cultural heritage left-over in Georgia simply proves again that you have either absolutely no sense regarding Georgian history, or you're simply posing
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Then the English of the sentence is poor, it should be rephrased and condensed. Something like "After the Russo-Persion War (1826-1828), the Turkmanchey Treaty of 1828 ended centuries of Iranian control of the Caucasian provinces (including modern-day Armenia, Azerbaijan and parts of eastern Turkey)
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over same content. That was a majority point of view and you should accept it. I also invited you to make the change in the text the way you want it but it seems that you are unwilling to do that and instead want to continue with your edit-warring by removing the text altogether and that also at the
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This article should be retained as an example of the ultranationalism/ethnocentristic egoism that pervades some national and/or ethnic groups. The concept of a "Greater Iran" is in line with the concept under Hitler and the Nazis and other German ultranationalists going back to the 19th century that
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just because it was briefly ruled by Greeks. Its simply not appropriate. The Caucasus subsection needs to be generally more circumspect; the Iranian peoples (or speakers of an Iranian language) do not represent a majority there, and the supposed Iranian cultural influence is not so significant as is
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Iranian World for the name of this article is a legitimate one. There are a lot of Worlds which are less legitimate: 1- The Western world= It is too diverse and to vast with a very fragmented culture and political sphere 2- The Arab world: it is only based on the Arabic language. imposed pon so many
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called Persia (in common English use) until 1935, and the official position of the Iranian government was that both names could be used interchangably until 1979. So it is not exactly right to condemn people for still using an old name which was in use until recently, nor is it correct to say that a
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Worst of all, this nebulous neo-imperialistic article is not adequately sourced. In fact, the Georgian section is not sourced at all and it is just bla bla bla that someone concocted off the top of his head to make Georgia seem little more than an Iranian province. Such content should be challenged
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So any areas conquered through military force by Persia at one point in time or another become part of greater Iran? This article seems to be flawed on many levels. Let's take for example Iraq. It was ruled by the Ottomans for much longer than the Persians, so does it become part of greater Turkey?
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It is such nonsense to say that Georgia is part of Greater Iran just because it was under its control for a period of time. Georgia has nothing in common with Iran, language, ethnic origin, or culture. If being conquered counts then it is also part of "Greater Byzantium/Greece" which one must admit
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This is not correct. Greater Iran is a cultural concept, not a political one. Greater Iran does not include Northeast Africa (Egypt) or the Near East (Western Mediterranean, the Pontus, the Levant, the Arabian peninsula, Babylonia). And yet these were all at one time or another part of one or both
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Although too many Iranians in the USA live with the idea that Iran and Persia are the same, they are not. In fact there is no country called Persia. There are no evidences that there has been once an independent Persia either. Persia was a tributary/ or part of Median empire. Before that time it is
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It's my assumption that the source is talking about the Sassanids and the Achaemenids? Just read it yourself. This is the end of out discussion here. I'm going to get a copy of the source provided in the article and see how it defines the term "Greater Iran". We can then discuss the differences (if
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Concerning the first part of your argument, I'm afraid you are wrong, my friend. Pan-Iranist ideology came about before Reza Shah came to power (early 1920s), and he was not supportive of it, nor did he have anything to do with the development of the ideology. If you want the story behind the early
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I've limited my editing to fixing a couple obvious errors introduced by this edit, but I have doubts about it's overall value. I'm far from an expert on the region (hence the limited edit of obvious problems), but the edit seems heavily biased toward placing Iraq as the center of Greater Iran. I
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Its probably a good thing that the "significant Iranian cultural influence" silliness identifies this article as being written by naive/uninformed children who obviously haven't even read the sources they "cite". :) That way, readers are less likely to take the other childishness seriously. Almost
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Have you actually read the sources you are deleting and rejecting?! They are pretty clear about what "Greater Persia" means. Although I support your view that "Greater Iran" is the correct term, your stubborn opposition to even mentioning the expression "Greater Persia" in the article (despite its
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I advise Shayan 7 (Pejmen Akbarzadeh) and other associates with radio Zamaneh stop vandalizing all Iranian-related articles. Iran has been Iran since the Sasanid time. Take it or leave it. I know you get discriminated in the Netherlands if you say you are from Iran, but this has nothing to do with
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you have told the correct things in a harsh manner.greater Iran in a no way suit the title rather it is confusing. I initially thought someone is suggesting redrawing the borders of South and Central Asia. I further see it a early Muslim Empire disintegrating into three parts; Ottomans, Mughals
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Aside from the state-vs-nation confusion, it seems that there have also been a couple of mindless chipmunks at work here. In the caption of an image lower down on the page, Iranian plateau has been designated "Persian plateau". I don't think "One pill to make them bigger, and one pill to make them
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On further examination, I found sections on Iraq/Armenia (and to an extent also other Caucasus stuff) coatracked onto this article. This may be a remnant of the confusion of state and nation, and/or the projection of "Persian Empire" yadda yadda onto this article. While cultural influence on these
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Iran was called Iran and not Persia. It is very simple. Early medieval poets such as Ferdowsi and Nizami Ganjavi used consciously Iran. Mongol invaders called it Ulus Iran. Safavi, Afshari, Zand and Qajar Kings also used the name Iran in all official documents, long before Reza Shah. The name Iran
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As for cn notations, I see in the article history that they were periodically placed but somehow always ended up disappearing. In any case, does one need to draw a red arrow for someone to notice that entire paragraphs and sections are unsourced or mostly unsourced? Is it not clear from this talk
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Okay, let's start with this sentence: "The Turkmanchey Treaty of 1828, after the Russo-Persian War (1826-1828) permanently severed the Caucasian provinces from Iran, which had made part of its concept for centuries, and forced Iran to cede modern-day Armenia, Azerbaijan and minor parts of Eastern
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The problem we have here is because of three different phenomena: 1) Iranian nationals who think of this article as something which only serves their racial dominance. I think that's why we have not distinctively defined the difference between the "Greater Iran" and "Iranian Cultural Continent".
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I see sources that discuss an ancient geographic region, naming regions, and calling it Greater Persia. Furthermore, I see one of these sources telling his readers he chooses to use the word 'Persia' just because he likes it. Where do you see that Greater Persia ≠ Greater Iran? When you find that
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Party, which was actually modeled after the National Socialist (Nazi) German Workers Party of Germany and dissolved after the fall of the Third Reich. This party had literally no connection to Pan-Iranism or any Pan-Iranist groups (which weren't formed until after WW2). And aside from a number of
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concerns. Please stop with your highly disruptive editorial pattern. Numerous people have pointed you out on it. Everytime you're baffled on talk pages by numerous uers you simply stop responding to the people in question, making them have to go through the same nuisansical cycle again with you.
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named the region of "Greater Iran" to "Iran" which even a layman can understand that that is not the case. I tried my best to adjust the text to clarify it further from the original text but it seemed unsatisfactory to him/her. So, i am opening this thread as i disagree with current state of the
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It is Iran. Ok? That is the name used by the United Nation. That is the name used from the Sasanid Times. And not only in certain sources. Go read a few history books. And good for you that you do not get discriminated in the Netherlands. Of course you are happy that the netherlands has offered
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It seems as if Iran's historical significance has gone to people's heads. A few statements to set everything straight: Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq formed the core of Persia. None of them are superior in any way to each other. Persia was great. Iran is not, nor will it ever be if the people don't
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1657, from Gk. oxymoron, noun use of neut. of oxymoros (adj.) "pointedly foolish," from oxys "sharp" (see acrid) + moros "stupid." Rhetorical figure by which contradictory terms are conjoined so as to give point to the statement or expression; the word itself is an illustration of the thing. Now
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Choresmia was part of Greater Khorasan, also some sources claim Choresmia outside of Chorasan. But the fact that they are known as Iranians and not as Turanians and beeing follower of Zarathustra is one proof, Al-Biruni self claimed Choresmians as a branch of Persian and part of Greater Iran in
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First of all, your argument is irrelevant. Secondly, if you want to be consequent, then please also remove the reference to Iranica, because it is just an article that uses the term "Iranian Cultural Continent" and nowhere does it state that it is the same as "Greater Iran". Secondly, in of the
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there dozens of srticles and books about this. A Romanian friend also once told me that there is a theory that the ancient Dacians of Romania were Iranians. I have not read it anywere but it makes sense, because as Ukraine (Scythia) was an Iranian land and they were also found in the Balkans so
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were never part of Greater Iran? Or you are saying that since they remain under similar influence by Greater Russia, Greater Turkey and Greater Mongolia thus it doesn't warrant to mention them here? As for sources I think we should cn tag that content and give folks an opportunity to source it
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Hi Binksternet, thanks for your note. I think it should be removed. There is no sound document for that claim and also it's more close to a personal view to the metter, not a fact. No clear source source has been mentioned either. Meanwhile as I mentioned in the previous note, based on various
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Your insistence that Persia is somehow more special than Turks or Mongols is just another confirmation of your narrow Iranian worldview. The notion that Persia exported culture but others merely caused destruction is an arrogant and factually unfounded opinion. Persians did a great amount of
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This article is about the cultural region of Greater Iran, it even mentions that "The term Iran is not limited to the modern state of Iran", so any mention of Iran without previous disambiguation will be understood as referring to the region. The country of Iran could be linked in the second
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Because the concept is a cultural one, representing regions settled by Iranian tribes, it does not correspond to any particular political entity, and—because it represents a late Bronze Age dispersion—predates such political entities by many centuries. For the Sassanids, in whose 3rd century
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What do you think "Greater Iran" means heja? It means an "Iran" that transcends its current boundaries. Now either you agree that the Iranian lands were spread out far and wide in antiquity, or you dont. Because if you dont, you are denying history one more time, and wasting my time. Maybe
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After their first appearance, the terms in bold can be explained in the article body. The "Iranian Cultural Continent" can be described as coming from its source encyclopedia, and "Greater Persia" can be described as a term sometimes used in English to mean the same thing as Greater Iran.
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It might be worth noting in the captions that the maps are of the empires at their greatest extent, rather than there typical extent. In some cases the difference is minor, but in others the difference is significant. In the case of the Sassanid Empire, for example, the maximum extent is
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sources that you have deleted, it uses the expression "Greater Persia/Iran", making clear that it is used as a synonym. That should not be any surprise, because in Western languages, "Persia" is used synonymously for "Iran". And I just want to remind you that maybe 90% of this article is
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One editor removed the explanation of "Greater Persia", which leaves the reader who typed in "Greater Persia" wondering why they were redirected to an article that has no mention of Greater Persia. That reader will then assume the two terms are identical. If they are not identical, as
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Instead, I propose we make a list of such "Greater" states, and list them all there, or make a category for them, and list them in the category, and then take off the links from this article. But not all of them. Some will have to stay as they are directly related to Iran, such as
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inscriptions the term 'Iran' first appears as a political concept, the multinational Iranian state included Asia Minor but excluded territories east of the two Iranian salt desert basins. This situation is however reversed in the cultural context, i.e. that of the Iranian nation.
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This article is about a culture and a language.I am sure It is not about the race.DNA test may prove much of Middle_east population are indo-iranians but who cares? let's care about the culture which Iranian-people made in over 4000 years in this area. that is "greater Iran"
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And besides Heja, youre wasting my fuckin time, and Im pretty pissed about it, because I know youre doing this deliberately. Go read the damn book by Frye. The book's fuckin title is "Greater Iran" for crying out loud. He talks about all Central Asian territories from top to
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Please make the proposed change the way you are suggesting it instead of completely removing it. The mention of present day country is relevant as it derives the same name and was an important part of the "Greater Iran" region. It is definitely encyclopedic to mention that.
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Thats incorrect, Greater Iran, on top of including regions where people speak Iranic langauges as a first or second language, also includes territories that are historically an integral part of the Iranic Empire. By the definition, we should also include the rest of Eastern
3886:. You have given sources that use the term Greater Persia. So what? Greater Iran includes most of central asia while Greater Persia excludes some. We can not include Greater Persia in the lead because Greater Persia is not Greater Iran. If you find sources like
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The article should be changed from Greater Iran to Greater Persia. Arianam or Ariana is not refered to Persis. The region in Avesta is modern day Afghanistan, easter Iran and southern Transoxiana. The article is not neutral and hangs around history of Persia.
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which was used by Russia as a pretext for annexing the lands. King Erekle (Heraclius) II of Eastern Georgia did this because he thought that although losing sovereignty was bad, being part of the Christian world would save the Georgian culture from imminent
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only proves that you have neither read or understood the sources nor the point of why the expression should be mentioned in the lead. "Persia" in Western languages is used as a synonym for "Iran". This may be right or wrong, but it is irrelevant because it
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often used loosely to mean "contradiction in terms." Yes the use of the term Afghan Tajiks is pointed, it refers to Tajiks from Afghanistan as opposed to those who may dwell or come from other places. To see it as contradictory is to miss the point. --
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and minor parts of Eastern Turkey were those Caucasian provinces which Iran had to cede in result of the treaty and that they were part of its concept for centuries and now permanently severed from it. The additional text does add encyclopedic value.
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Greater Khorasan. Interestingly, Sogdia, which is undoubtly part of historical Khorasan and a centre of Iranian identity, specially after the islamic conquest, was known for many centuries as Land of Turanians. Please, correct some of your claims. --
4053:, Fullstop says "I will try to make the distinction between nation and state even clearer by an addition of a second lead paragraph." I gather that he was trying to summarize the article in this paragraph, trying to tie together the definitions of
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had a more profound effect on its culture than anything. And Eastern Georgia was not "historically attached to the south for support." In fact, eastern Georgia was so fed up with fighting off the invading Persians that they voluntarily signed the
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It's much more better that we (as a neutral source) present what is a "fact" and leave our personal ideas for our own articles. I mean, not adding descriptions to the entries which there is no source for that. --Shayan7 16:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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original research, allegations of ultra-nationalism and lack of sources? I think you all know well the type of controversial information you have included in this article, you were just ducking your heads to see how long this was going to stick.
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Of course, in modern times Iranian emmigrants living overseas insist on being called "Persians" to distinguish themselves from the Mullahs and all that. But that is not what the field of Iranian studies does, and Knowledge shouldn't be doing it
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read the article and it utterly fails to explain why some sources use the term "Greater Persia". You are wrong in thinking that I want to change "to Greater Persia just because Persia=Iran"... I do not wish to change anything. I wish instead to
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Was this area also a part of Iran Zamin (Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, North Oman, Bahrain, Saudi coast, etc...)? Even today, many can trace their roots back to Iranians and specifically Persians (Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait, northern Oman, and even in
4285:(outdent) FWIW: "Greater Persia" and "Greater Iran" are not synonyms. 'Greater Persia' is a geo-political concept, approximately equivalent to present-day Iran (= the Caliphate province of 'Iraq-e Ajami'), and stands in contradistinction to '
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souds like a proper name for this article then, why not call it so. Zereshk, I would like to know your openion on Garthwaite caliming that Achaemenians did not have a designation for all their empire and consider it collection of regions.
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There is an obvious connection. "Greater Iran" is not the only irredentist article of WP. The very presence of these links absolves the article of "Persian nationalist editing" accusations, which was used as a reason to try and delete the
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yes but someone has added Greater Persia this Persia that in some parts. Usually Iranian Amercians (of divrese ethnic backgrounds) doing this, but their motives stem from other than facts. (they simply do not want to be called Iranians).
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small" works for topography, and unless someone in official capacity has since decided to confuse matters, the Persian plateau remains the upper arch of the Iranian plateau that stretches from Luristan to Golestan (particularly clear in
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an estimated population of 35 million people of Iranic origin such as Tajik, Baloch, Kurds and Pashtun. Additionally, Pakistan was part of the Achemenid empire contributed greatly in the form of tax to the royal revenues of Xerxes.
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making claims that "the source is only taling about Persians" and the other ethnicities may not have called the land Iran. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you. We have already provided evidence that the land was called Iran.
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Iranian military officers in the Kabud Party (no intellectuals or academics or politicians were members), there was no tacit government approval of the party's ideology. It was very much an unpopular group with a small membership.
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In other words, they are just there to help with your argument with another user, and don't actually add anything to the article about Greater Iran itself. I'm going to remove them, unless that's really not the case.
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Actually, those are merly your assumptions, the source says the land was called Iran by several ruling dynasties of Iran. Any other conclusion would have to be supported by direct quotes from authoritative sources.
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Yes according to a popular theory Croats belive that they stem from ancient Iranian tribes (Sramathians most probably), the same theory says more or less that also Serbs and Bosnians are from this tribe. see this
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How about the Arabs. They ruled Persia for hundreds of years. It is Arab culture that is today dominant in Iran from peoples names, to influence on language, script, etc. Does Iran become part of greater Arabia?
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I want a source that supports your claim that Greater Persia is the same as Greater Iran, so that the sentence "Greater Iran is also referred to as Greater Persia" can be put in the lead per
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Okay there's nothing to prove here. The source is talking about Persians of course. It says the Sassanids used the term Iranshahr. It doesn't even talk about Afghans or Kurds or anyone else.
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of the Iranian world. It is arrogant and presumptuous to think that somehow Iran's influence in Georgia was definitive, more so than everyone else's, which is what is being suggested here.
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Different parts of Georgia have been under the influence and/or rule of various empires for centuries and Georgia cannot be considered part of "Greater Iran" any more than it is a part of
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country called Persia never existed. When an Iranian says he is Persian he means it the sense that the name was used in the west till recently, not as the name of a province of Iran.
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It is oxymoronic to say Afghan Tajiks. Afghan means Pashtun. Tajiks cannot be Tajik ethnically and Afghan ethnically at the same time. The solution of this would be to use
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called their land Iran. The article might have to be re-written to make sure this is a historical term, not a political one. But I have to get a copy of your source first.
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and Persian empires and the struggles between their rulers. I sincerely suggest removal of this article . it is adding more confusion and misleading Malik Atta --
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is not a Persian city name in Uzbekistan. Maybe "Shah e zendeh", "Goor e Amir", "Madreseh ye Bibi", ...are not Persian names in Uzbekistan. Maybe theyre Martian.--
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I agree. Since Iran is the name of an existing country today, the term greater Iran might be taken in a negative light, as its obvious from the discussions here.
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Actually, they are related. Like "Greater Iran", they are similar "Greater" nation entities. I oppose removing them unless a list or article is made for them.--
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pillaging, massacring and destruction and nothing makes it "better" or more related to Georgia than any other conqueror that has crossed their path.
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as it is (the same way Iranians and Persian-speakers call Greeks "Yūnānī" and the same way English-speakers call Germans "German" and not "Deutsch")
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Thanx. But I added sources, none of which you mentioned. In fact, we should move the title of the page to "Greater Iran" as it correctly should be.--
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Why don't you solve the problem by saying "Tajiks in/from Afghanistan"?!
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because old poems etc. are used to make this article look encyclopedic.
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Mehrdad says: "There was no region called Iran before the 14th century."
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years of Pan-Iranism and how it came to be, you should read the book
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