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incorporating then entire Bill of Rights against the states. Harlan, on the other hand, was for "selective incorporation." He only wanted to apply the bill of rights when it was essential to fundamental fairness for the states. Justice CARDOZO is the one who adopted Harlan's view. Someone fix, please.
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I am disputing with other editors that Harlan is accurately called a "fundamentalist
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He was not a ”Fundamentalist”. I have exchanged emails with
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website for photo.) She suggests that the experience of having a mulatto half-brother raised and educated in the household may have influenced John Marshall Harlan's views, which he expressed in his dissent in
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I've taken a stab at rewriting this section in a way that better reflects the sources. "Fundamentalist" is not the term favored by most sources, so I've omitted it. Feel free to revise as you like. Cheers,
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