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166: 22: 74: 53: 84: 444:. It really doesn't matter, anyway, because the two articles have completely different titles, there's no ambiguity; no one is going to search for "Presidente Prudente" in the enwiki expecting to find the president's biography. They will most likely search here for 604:. If the city's name was Prudente de Morais, I would probably oppose this move because there wouldn't be a clear primary topic between the city and the president. But the city's name is Presidente Prudente, and when readers searches for 424: 366:, no reason whatsoever, I just thought of the simplest solution for this. But indeed, as the primary topic, the city could also be moved to "Presidente Prudente" and receive a hatnote pointing to the disambiguation page. — 470:
I think the question is ultimately about whether on enwiki the city should have the base title over the disambiguation page, and my gut feeling is probably yes, but it'd be good to be able to make a convincing argument.
442: 402:, it's the city that comes to mind. Note also that none of the other wikis use a disambiguation for the city name (except for cebwiki and nlwiki that have different articles for the city and the municipality): 616:
is the city in Missouri, simply because people who type "St. Louis" into the search bar are quite unlikely to be looking for the king. I think the city of Presidente Prudente is "
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On the basis of this being the English Knowledge and it thus being more likely that people looking for the term "Presidente Prudente" in English are trying to get to the city.
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Hi, is there a reason you're saying the city should stay where it is and the base name redirect to it, rather than move the city to the base name?
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than the city, so I'm not convinced by the arguments to change this, a dab page seems best. At least it needs to be discussed anyway. Cheers  —
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Thank you for explaining that. And when you say that the city is the clear primary topic, what are you basing that assessment on?
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is clearly the primary topic: the president who gave his name to the city is nearly unknown to most people. After the move,
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
197: 286:, no other article named "Presidente Prudente (Xyz)" has more views than it. See also the discussion below, copied from 508:, I think the argument given above for the move request is quite convincing. But I'll give a couple of other examples: 110: 325: 263: 252: 176: 571: 521: 517: 403: 628: 544: 97: 58: 33: 567: 623:" (emphasis added), so I support making it the primary topic (with appropriate hatnotes, of course). 612:, who is a very significant historical figure, is sometimes called St. Louis. But the article titled 206: 172: 219:
after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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624: 21: 399: 283: 395: 216: 39: 8: 559: 329: 312: 272: 267: 180: 609: 449: 247: 525: 552: 548: 476: 432: 385: 353: 617: 608:, it's far more likely that they're looking for the city. For an analogous case, 591: 461: 414: 371: 337: 295: 106: 583: 287: 649: 242: 89: 428: 529: 513: 452:, as the graphic you cite demonstrates. In the English language, the name 540: 578:
I hope the examples above will convince you that this request is indeed
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As I said, in Portuguese it's the opposite, the city gets more views:
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highly likely...to be the topic sought when a reader searches for
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to be made a disambiguation page just because it's named after
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On 18 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be
101:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 79: 456:is unequivocally associated with the city only. — 647: 394:In Portuguese, the president is better known as 19: 205:The following is a closed discussion of a 648: 398:; when someone specifically speaks of 332:will be made a redirect to the city. — 564:Presidente Prudente (disambiguation) 321:Presidente Prudente (disambiguation) 277:Presidente Prudente (disambiguation) 224:The result of the move request was: 160: 95:This article is within the scope of 15: 38:It is of interest to the following 13: 14: 677: 638:The discussion above is closed. 164: 82: 72: 51: 20: 139:This article has been rated as 661:Low-importance Brazil articles 326:Presidente Prudente, São Paulo 264:Presidente Prudente, São Paulo 232:closed by non-admin page mover 177:Presidente Prudente, São Paulo 1: 572:Presidente Prudente Formation 113:and see a list of open tasks. 545:Los Angeles (disambiguation) 119:Knowledge:WikiProject Brazil 7: 666:WikiProject Brazil articles 656:Start-Class Brazil articles 568:Presidente Prudente Airport 528:etc. There's no reason for 238:Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung 198:Requested move 18 June 2022 122:Template:WikiProject Brazil 10: 682: 522:São Paulo State University 518:São Paulo (disambiguation) 145:project's importance scale 633:03:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC) 596:14:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC) 582:, as initially stated at 481:03:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC) 466:22:50, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 437:17:14, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 419:13:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 390:07:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 376:03:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 358:02:49, 17 June 2022 (UTC) 342:17:52, 16 June 2022 (UTC) 300:02:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC) 257:04:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC) 138: 67: 46: 640:Please do not modify it. 448:, or for the whole name 212:Please do not modify it. 400:pt:Presidente Prudente 28:This article is rated 423:The president's page 396:pt:Prudente de Morais 606:that particular term 539:Similarly, there is 425:gets more page views 404:Presidente Prudente 562:(the city proper), 560:Presidente Prudente 543:(the city proper), 516:(the city proper), 454:Presidente Prudente 330:Presidente Prudente 313:Presidente Prudente 273:Presidente Prudente 268:Presidente Prudente 181:Presidente Prudente 625:Extraordinary Writ 610:Louis IX of France 450:Prudente de Morais 446:president Prudente 282:– The city is the 98:WikiProject Brazil 34:content assessment 553:Los Angeles Basin 549:Los Angeles River 502: 501: 407: 235: 195: 194: 159: 158: 155: 154: 151: 150: 673: 405: 345: 344: 304: 303: 229: 214: 183:. 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