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Knowledge. If editors do not follow this practice then they are merely functioning as enablers (in the negative sense). In short, they should work for the best interests of the encyclopedia rather than the company (of course!)... Mildly off-topic, I strongly doubt that many (if any) paid editors would agressively search for controversy. That is why their COI-ness is so deeply troubling to me.... That is speaking generally. As for this article, I have mentioned Colombia and ethanol. If you don't want to add them (or if you can argue persuasively that they do not rise to the levels of inclusion, as you have suggested above), then don't add them. I will not add them. I am completely burned out on edit wars. Cheers.
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Colombia particularly worthy of inclusion in a WP article, other than to note that Colombia is one of their clients. So if you've got some sourced info that you think belongs in the article and it meets
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